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  • #46
    That’s great farmhand .. just keep at man and please feed back because It helps us all … Meanwhile I want to try and explain what is occurring here from two and possibly three different points of view
    but please try not to get tangled up I am describing exactly the same event , And I'm writing out of shear frustration because I can't actually try it myself … so here is a physical aspect of what we are trying to accomplish.
    Don't consider the machines as anything to do with the equation at all, just focus on the battery . The humble Lead acid battery. It was said by Tesla you must consider the whole circuit .. and Its true so very true. Yet for years I have not been able to see what the man meant .
    To cut straight to the chase .. we want to use lots of energy from a lead acid battery whilst at the same time keeping it fully charged … Its as simple and as easy as that isn't it? What ever machine or contraption you connect to that battery you must at the same time be doing something else to it that makes sure its always fully charged. … after you get the hang of this you'll be able to see how every machine should work. (if I'm right of course)
    The cause of battery discharge is you using volts x amps (power) x time (energy) and inside the battery itself the effect is sulphation, Normally you would reverse the process and charge the battery up again using Amps x hours (in passing please note there is no volts ) Usually the power consumed charging the battery is considerably more than can ever be obtained from it.
    Its a big loss situation . However there is another way to remove sulphation we can .. figuratively speaking . Shatter it . Of course I don't mean with a big hammer I mean at the molecular level
    if it can be arranged that a frequency is hitting that battery that makes the whole thing resonant at the right frequency look what happens to the sulphate

    How to shatter glass with your voice - YouTube

    Its shattered using little or no energy what so ever ! The next thing I'd like you to think about is just what sort of wave is a sound wave? Just think for a moment how your ear works and for that matter how a loud speaker works … back ward and forwards right? Hitting your ear drum true?
    Its a linear wave … That’s the wave that doesn't exist in electricity. Yeah right! Its the wave of Tesla Its the wave of his wireless and his electrical work .Now you know that sound is a linear wave look what sound is doing here.

    Amazing Resonance Experiment! - YouTube

    now I stress this is only done by resonance and the linear wave , and that occurs in electric circuits when they are series resonant . So if you can simply feed the battery with the correct impulse at the resonant frequency the battery will remain fully charged regardless of what load you decide to apply. This is the state of play you see time and time again on the 3BGS thread … they have the right shape impulse , now and again they find the resonant frequency, huge amounts of power become available , The chemical composition of the battery changes eventually the resonance point is lost and gone .. and the struggle starts all over again , But make no mistake the system does work Its just I have no programming skills and so I can't compose the code to control the loop it isn’t hard I simply don't know how.
    Strangely it is one of the few bits of information that’s readily available or easily worked out regarding the impulse wave of Tesla .. In fact here's EPD telling us exactly what the relationship is years ago

    Part 1 of 6: Eric Dollard Tesla Longitudinal wave Energy SBARC Ham Radio with Chris Carson - YouTube

    pi/2 In other words although you can't see impulse electricity with any instruments and you certainly cant measure it you know immediately that the impulse frequency needs to track the parallel resonant frequency .. which you can see .. by a factor of pi/2.
    Research indicates that the lead acid battery however has a series of sympathetic resonant points obviously the higher up the chain you inject the resonant wave the more dramatic the response . I suspect that cascade is exactly what Marcus Reid describes here .. except of course its electrostatic waves. Not electromagnetic (you know them ones that don't exist)

    Marcus Reid Crystal Converter Battery - Casimir Effect - Part 1 - YouTube

    So I surmise Its quite possible to inject a battery with the correct impulse wave by scanning the battery with normal transverse electricity through frequency ranges discovering the highest obtainable parallel resonant frequency
    and then injecting the correct impulse frequency … which will be pi/2 related .. or at least a linear relationship near to pi/2 (pi/2 being in free space)

    what is an impulse really ? It is in a perfect situation - and + totally reversing in the shortest possible time . … this is potentially the Crème de la crème and avoids the magnetics totally since its operating directly from the electrostatic interaction.

    It need its own thread ,,
    Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
      Now the couple of questions are : each of windings when checked by meter has around 9H inductance, but if you join them in one way they cancel each other and give only milliHenries while in other connection (like in Tesla bifilar probably) they got me 42H. Is that because of mutual inductance ?
      Inductance is related the the square of the number of turns on a core.
      Twice the number of turns = four times the inductance.
      Inductance measurements will be influenced by other reactivities at such high values.

      Cheers ......... Graham.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
        Can I ask a question here please ? I have build a 1:1 transformer from two ordinary ones (I used it to check JackNoskills user claims on overunity.com).

        Now the couple of questions are : each of windings when checked by meter has around 9H inductance, but if you join them in one way they cancel each other and give only milliHenries while in other connection (like in Tesla bifilar probably) they got me 42H. Is that because of mutual inductance ?

        I want to use them in series as a choke for 230V AC or DC current like in attached picture.

        In picture XMM1 is inductance meter showing 42H and X1 is just a load lamp.
        Simple question : can I trust meter showing me 42H or just add two 9H inductances in series ? What inductance value will load see ?

        You woull help me if you know, then we could compare the results with experiment when I will be prepared for it...
        thats a bit of a puzzle boguslaw I'll dwell n that a little
        Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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        • #49
          Hi Duncan,

          After Mario's posts, and from the way we ourselves know we were taught to understand magnetic field induction and transduction relationships, I feel that many folk still cannot comprehend the principles behind the TPU because the TPU does not operate in any way that we have been educated to understand - even at University level !!!!!

          The kind of transducible field reversal illustrated here is the sort of thing happening within two of the four TPU sections. There is a sudden field reversal not involving either energy requirements for armature or induced field rotation, nor any of the normal induction related back-EMFs etc. as drummed into us from upper school onwards.
          Wesley Gary Neutral Zone - Video Dailymotion
          Though a tuned induction plus transduction relationship would be essential to optimise output efficiency, this equipment does not run via normal linear/induction/resonance relationships, and nor can it be examined via same disciplines. The overwind transducible energy generated by the sudden internal core field reversals (as in the Patented Wesley Gary Generator) far exceeds the energy requirement essential for the TPU control/drive necessary to cause those core field reversals.

          Actually the sort of arrangemet in the video could be used to determine which materials would be the most useful to use within a TPU; say by 'scoping the output from ten turns of wire wrapped around every core sample passing through its own neutral zone w.r.t. a chosen magnet.

          Cheers ............ Graham.
          Last edited by GSM; 01-04-2014, 02:11 PM. Reason: improve explanation clarity.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Duncan View Post
            So if you can simply feed the battery with the correct impulse at the resonant frequency the battery will remain fully charged regardless of what load you decide to apply. This is the state of play you see time and time again on the 3BGS thread … they have the right shape impulse , now and again they find the resonant frequency, huge amounts of power become available , The chemical composition of the battery changes eventually the resonance point is lost and gone .. and the struggle starts all over again , But make no mistake the system does work

            Research indicates that the lead acid battery however has a series of sympathetic resonant points obviously the higher up the chain you inject the resonant wave the more dramatic the response . I suspect that cascade is exactly what Marcus Reid describes here .. except of course its electrostatic waves. Not electromagnetic (you know them ones that don't exist)

            So I surmise Its quite possible to inject a battery with the correct impulse wave by scanning the battery with normal transverse electricity through frequency ranges discovering the highest obtainable parallel resonant frequency and then injecting the correct impulse frequency … which will be pi/2 related .. or at least a linear relationship near to pi/2 (pi/2 being in free space)
            Duncan,
            Here's the thread where this very thing was done - folks would do well to copy the circuit in case something happens to the thread:
            Appears to be overunity Cicuit
            I believe the folks in the 3BGS should have another look at it. I posted it awhile back, but it appeared to be left in the dust as posting traffic zoomed by...
            The neat thing about this circuit is that it uses a couple of variable resistors, and so the resonance point can be changed until the correct frequency is reached and the magic starts to happen. The circuit does produce the desired effect with a lead acid battery.

            As far as hitting the target of a varying resonance point, I believe the caduceus coil has multiple points of resonance due to its unique configuration. This might be very helpful - another gem quietly left to fade into the stochastic background
            Is this the Smith/Kapanadze secret ?

            For those with eyes and ears...
            Bob

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            • #51
              Originally posted by GSM View Post
              Hi Duncan,

              After Mario's posts, and from the way we ourselves know we were taught to understand magnetic field induction and transduction relationships, I feel that many folk still cannot comprehend the principles behind the TPU because the TPU does not operate in any way that we have been educated to understand - even at University level !!!!!

              The kind of transducible field reversal illustrated here is the sort of thing happening within two of the four TPU sections. There is a sudden field reversal not involving either energy requirements for armature or induced field rotation, nor any of the normal induction related back-EMFs etc. as drummed into us from upper school onwards.
              Wesley Gary Neutral Zone - Video Dailymotion
              Though a tuned induction plus transduction relationship would be essential to optimise output efficiency, this equipment does not run via normal linear/induction/resonance relationships, and nor can it be examined via same disciplines. The energy generated by the sudden internal core field reversals (as in the Wesley Gary generator) far exceeds the energy requirement essential for TPU control and drive.

              Actually the sort of arrangemet in the video could be used to determine which materials would be the most useful to use within a TPU; say by 'scoping the output from ten turns of wire wrapped around every core sample passing through its own neutral zone w.r.t. a chosen magnet.

              Cheers ............ Graham.
              I really didn't mean to be that off hand with the guy Graham . I seem to have been writing non stop for days .. day and night . and some one just to suddenly stick his neb in like that with such an off the cuff 'I know best' riposte .. just didn't go well , ah well perhaps he'll return and I can apologise
              had he asked instead of telling It would have been so very different. I need folks to help not piss on my battery. For instance resolve that control loop above .. and the magnetics become a bad distant memory. That proposition is direct conversion of the electrostatic wave inside the battery itself .
              Even poor old Tesla couldn't do that .. I'm sure he knew how to just didn't have the computing power. Its simple control loop stuff with a program probably one of those weeeno things could do it but I haven’t got a cue in that area .. so I have to beat about the bush. Instead of being able to do this

              Three-Dimensional Mid-Air Acoustic Manipulation [Acoustic Levitation] (2013,2014-) - YouTube

              with any sulphate that might try and form inside the battery. I have to come out because I don't know how to track parallel resonance and inject an impulse based on it DOH
              Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Bob Smith View Post
                Duncan,
                Here's the thread where this very thing was done - folks would do well to copy the circuit in case something happens to the thread:
                Appears to be overunity Cicuit
                I believe the folks in the 3BGS should have another look at it. I posted it awhile back, but it appeared to be left in the dust as posting traffic zoomed by...
                The neat thing about this circuit is that it uses a couple of variable resistors, and so the resonance point can be changed until the correct frequency is reached and the magic starts to happen. The circuit does produce the desired effect with a lead acid battery.

                As far as hitting the target of a varying resonance point, I believe the caduceus coil has multiple points of resonance due to its unique configuration. This might be very helpful - another gem quietly left to fade into the stochastic background
                Is this the Smith/Kapanadze secret ?

                For those with eyes and ears...
                Bob
                Oh dear I'm a year ahead Bob I tried it was no go . The reason being the Lead acid Battery does not have a resonant point , It has a very important resonant cascade . That means pulsing at one of the resonant frequencies begins a chain reaction .. sympathetic frequencies drive up through the battery up to infinity each wave able to exist in its own time and space with out let or hindrance .here is MJN explaining the inverse situation used to fracture water ( its also a possible remedy here as an injected signal)

                http://www.energeticforum.com/water-...tml#post111774

                at the core of that X6 is actually Tesla' s if you only knew 3,6,9 the overtones all the overtones are cumlative on 6 .. so it is in the lead acid battery
                .
                Here I am what seems years ago trying to show that .

                3bs - YouTube

                , some more just fell on stony ground!
                This is then happening
                Marcus Reid Crystal Converter Battery - Casimir Effect - Part 1 - YouTube

                except of course its not the electromagnetic wave … that’s as much use as tits on a kipper .. its the electrostatic wave.
                Last edited by Duncan; 01-04-2014, 03:15 PM.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Duncan View Post
                  thats a bit of a puzzle boguslaw I'll dwell n that a little
                  I apologize, my description was bad. I'm trying to understand how Tesla was able to find a choke for direct "municipal current" for his method. So basically I tried to connect 1:1 transformer windings in bifilar to rise inductance and connect that to AC power grid via FWBR or directly and see if I can operate that continously in short circuit. Unfortunately I only lowered current to 0,3A which is still too high, and I can keep it shorted only for a few seconds.
                  The only possibility which remain is motor winding or capacitor in series for higher reactance (but I don't like the phase shift).

                  Do you know how to make such choke as visible in many Tesla patents ?
                  Last edited by boguslaw; 01-11-2015, 10:22 AM.

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                  • #54
                    Programming

                    Duncan,
                    I have a friend who has been programming in a multitude of programming languages since he was a wee lad, is self employed, and always looking for a challenge. So if you have a good description of what you want done, I can get it to him…or better yet, if you will email me or pm me I will give you his email address. He has an Audrino and a STAMP already, as he BOUGHT both of those to assist me with programming problems I've had the last few years. As I said, he likes a challenge. So if you tell him WHY you want it, he will jump all over it. He has been quietly monitoring the 3BGS thread for a long time.

                    Dave
                    “Advances are made by answering questions. Discoveries are made by questioning answers.”
                    —Bernhard Haisch, Astrophysicist

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                    • #55
                      Yeah time to twiddle the 'duino

                      Some PLL related Arduino stuff:

                      Pll resonance lock - Arduino Forum

                      Intro to Phase-Locked Loops

                      I see Arduino clones are en masse on eBay. Reasonable prices. Even down around $10-$12 but I'd probably go with a Arduino MEGA 2560 R3 board as they have 256k program space as opposed to 8 or 16k like some of the earlier boards and this one is still 5v so compatible with more accessories/sensors. The Mega 2560 can be hard for less than $20.
                      Last edited by ewizard; 01-04-2014, 10:23 PM.
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                      • #56
                        Hello Duncan

                        I don't presume to have knowledge of your specific needs. But, various magnetic materials have been mentioned and one that hasn't been mentioned rust. Fe3o4 is cheap in bulk and easily contained in tubing or molded with epox or resin. I purchased 30lb of 325screensize fe304 for $42 that included shipping. It should easily handle upto 30khz AC without noticable eddy. If I remember correctly Mr Tesla was using Fe2o3 in some of his devices and as it is even a finer screen size and as cheap it might be worth looking into.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
                          I apologize, my description was bad. I'm trying to understand how Tesla was able to find a choke for direct "municipal current" for his method. So basically I tried to connect 1:1 transformer windings in bifilar to rise inductance and connect that to AC power grid via FWBR or directly and see if I can operate that continously in short circuit. Unfortunately I only lowered current to 0,3A which is still too high, and I can keep it shorted only for a few seconds.
                          The only possibility which remain is motor winding or capacitor in series for higher reactance (but I don't like the phase shift).

                          Do you know how to make such choke as visible in many Tesla patents ?

                          To be absolutely honest Boguslaw I have only ever scanned through a couple of Tesla's Patents and discovered I couldn't really understand the things at all . The only conception I have ever got of them is the interpretation of guys like yourself and EPD who have made a detailed study of them.
                          10 mins trying to decipher one makes my head hurt terribly you guys have my admiration ! As for asking me about one of his patents …

                          “in the land of the blind the one eyed man is king “
                          Desiderius

                          and as far as Tesla and patents go you have the eye. Never the less I can see you want to try out a little bit of what I propose and its undoubtedly what Tesla would have had to use in one form or another , so lets 'be at it' with pure logic … everything I look at, with Tesla involved, after Niagara falls has one thing in common,.. 'resonance' Its his fort'e its a gift he had .
                          There is a reason energy transform only occurs at resonance . You can bet your bottom dollar if that man wound special chokes they operated at resonance.
                          Now much as you hate phase shift … and I don’t blame you with that circuit, I went very close to resonance with this frightening thing to see if it actually would do that miracle with sulphated really old batteries . It did but I hated every second of it .

                          Capacitive Battery Charger - John Saves Energy

                          any way just got to live with it. Its Tesla its going to be resonance! I haven't seen this thing Boguslaw but I seem to have got the hang of the guys thinking and although it takes a while I can see what he's doing . With a circuit very similar to that which you have drawn . Perhaps , only because its something similar to what I am doing here .. which is probably why you ask!
                          There is a component of a sine wave that you as an electrical user don't often consider , the make up of the sine wave itself. In pure mathematical terms the sine wave embraces every other possible wave . The area under a sine wave is directly proportional to power . And so of course a component of energy. As more power is consumed your instruments will show no difference .. you will still see a sine wave . It is getting much weaker however Its being eaten away from the inside.
                          It becomes less and less able to hold a harmonic shape . Spikes start to appear and the supply

                          Are all waveforms made up of sine waves? : askscience /

                          becomes very dangerous as the harmonic make up of electricity is evens .. 60hz 120Hz … so the spikes are odds called overtones 3rd 9th 15th 21st see electrical harmonics IMHO. Tesla would only be interested in that series resonant impulse progression . It is only from that sharp resonant pulse that energy transformation occurs. View the spike as a very sharp square wave if you like , which you have seen I set out to generate at resonance watch what happens to a square wave with parallel resonance

                          Coil Resonance Tutorial 1 - YouTube

                          I particularly want you to note that a square wave .. or impulse wave is turned into a Sine wave .. Its transformed . Now although I've never seen one of these things should that circuit be resonant to the impulse spike overtone series it would immediately replace the missing components internal to the sine wave … That is adding power from the electrostatic wave (radiant energy) A very interesting circuit now I've thought about it …. It obviously had to have a stressed power line to begin with.
                          Which he had or it wouldn’t work anyway ! Or the power realised would be worthless (magnetic or reactive current)
                          I suggest this if you want to try it .. this is a back of envelope obviously



                          Change the mains supply for an H bridge ,,, feed the H bridge with a variable oscillator
                          .. that is so you can duplicate impulse electricity use a H bridge ready made couple of $s off e bay like this perhaps

                          L298N DC Stepper Motor Dual H Bridge Drive Controller Board Module for Arduino | eBay

                          or maybe similar they as used of toy cars .. backwards forwards speed ect .. that chip seems OK running and reversing up to about 8 Khz..
                          The variable change over ? Use a 555 if you want or this chip will do it all ..

                          How to Build a Homemade Power Inverter

                          except of course instead of feeding transistors to switch the transformer back and forth you'll feed straight into the H bridge .. change R to a variable …. job done .. experiment away >
                          the lead acid batteries on the output because its one of the few things that will convert reactive current (magnetic current) to real power .. you are of course aiming to run at series resonance so there is little or no load on the source battery Power = VI cos θ >> zero . Starve it boguslaw make it suck power from the Aether PS the windings so as the souce sees minimum inductance Tesla wanted the magnetic effect not the lenz effect . thats my take on what the mans doing .. hope Iv'e got it for you!
                          Good luck … tell us how you get on!
                          Last edited by Duncan; 01-05-2014, 04:42 PM.
                          Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Turion View Post
                            Duncan,
                            I have a friend who has been programming in a multitude of programming languages since he was a wee lad, is self employed, and always looking for a challenge. So if you have a good description of what you want done, I can get it to him…or better yet, if you will email me or pm me I will give you his email address. He has an Audrino and a STAMP already, as he BOUGHT both of those to assist me with programming problems I've had the last few years. As I said, he likes a challenge. So if you tell him WHY you want it, he will jump all over it. He has been quietly monitoring the 3BGS thread for a long time.

                            Dave
                            Thanks David ..
                            This subject is analogous to electricity in that the radio wave = electrostatic wave , and electricity =magnetic current . Like the radio wave and electricity they are in completely different dimensions
                            I seem to be starting to introducing both here together and that's a big mistake I think.
                            I think I need a demarcation line ,,, and open another thread. The electrostatic wave straight into a battery is phenomenal David …you should know you’ve seen it much more than most this is rather pedestrian as I see it . but with out the hit and miss .. still we'll see .. wish my Iron would arrive!
                            Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by ewizard View Post
                              Yeah time to twiddle the 'duino

                              Some PLL related Arduino stuff:

                              Pll resonance lock - Arduino Forum

                              Intro to Phase-Locked Loops

                              I see Arduino clones are en masse on eBay. Reasonable prices. Even down around $10-$12 but I'd probably go with a Arduino MEGA 2560 R3 board as they have 256k program space as opposed to 8 or 16k like some of the earlier boards and this one is still 5v so compatible with more accessories/sensors. The Mega 2560 can be hard for less than $20.
                              Thanks ewiz afraid I'll have to start at page one
                              Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Hrothgar View Post
                                I don't presume to have knowledge of your specific needs. But, various magnetic materials have been mentioned and one that hasn't been mentioned rust. Fe3o4 is cheap in bulk and easily contained in tubing or molded with epox or resin. I purchased 30lb of 325screensize fe304 for $42 that included shipping. It should easily handle upto 30khz AC without noticable eddy. If I remember correctly Mr Tesla was using Fe2o3 in some of his devices and as it is even a finer screen size and as cheap it might be worth looking into.

                                what a great Idea Hrothgar .. its certainly never crossed my mind .. I'll investigate!
                                Last edited by Duncan; 01-05-2014, 05:25 PM.
                                Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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