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    In reguards to Tesla And Plausens radiant reciever, supposidly the voltage of the earths atmosphere is appox.100 volts per meter or about 200volts at 6feet in height in respect to earth ground or there about, so they say. If this is so then why do I not get 200 volts my antennas reguardless of the type( wire, plate, sphere, ect...)? Am I missing something? I would like to try Herman Plausens simpler reciever but have never been able to collect enough to jump spark gap. Not even no ways near the 200V they claim. WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO GENERATE THE 200 VOLTS CONTINUOSLY ON AN ANTENNA? Please describe in a way I can understand. Thanks

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    In reguards to Tesla .... radiant reciever,
    That is something entirely different. That one receives energy (charge) through radiation.
    supposidly the voltage of the earths atmosphere is appox.100 volts per meter or about 200volts at 6feet in height in respect to earth ground or there about, so they say. If this is so then why do I not get 200 volts my antennas reguardless of the type( wire, plate, sphere, ect...)? Am I missing something?
    Yes.
    But your question is more likely meant as "what am I missing?"
    You have to think: "why does this voltage difference exist?" For as long as its source exists, so will this voltage difference. And because it is maintained, you can not use it. Meaning that although there is a voltage difference, current will not flow because the charge is separated under the influence of larger charges (Earth-Ionosphere). So this charge is "happy being where it is" and it will not flow through a conductor from high to low potential, as you would otherwise expect. If you would like to get access to this energy you will have to stick one electrode in the ionosphere and the other into the Earth. But you may want to check some calculations first, because the power contained there is much larger than that of a nuclear bomb. You may damage your voltmeter.

    Concerning the remainder of your question on Plausens, someone else may give you a better answer than I can.

    Ernst.

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    • #3
      Actually you do not need to go to the ionosphere to tap into this voltage energy. You can draw energy anywhere from within this range.

      The reason you are not seeing any potential is probably because you are short circuiting the voltage. How much potential would you see across an ideal battery with no internal resistance if you short circuited it with a zero resistance wire? You would see no voltage. Imagine one end of that battery being the atmospheric level you want to tap into and the other end being the ground... you then connect an open conductive antenna to short circuit it and wonder "Where is the voltage and current?"

      You need an insulated wire with some sort of conductor at the end to draw in the current.

      Lots of people have made motors that run off of this atmospheric potential. Just search under atmospheric motors. Here is one.

      Atmospheric Powered Motor 2.0 - YouTube

      Also the larger your collector at the top, the larger the current you can draw. They also have use radioactive substances at the top to ionize the air and draw in larger currents. And an INSULATED wire connects the top collector to ground... else short circuit. Does this make sense?

      The amp draw is small usually with these things. So the more current you try to draw, the smaller the voltage will be. So to keep say the 200V you are talking about, you better have a really large collector or you need a large resistive load with a small current draw. Which is why electrostatic motors are great for this type of power supply. High voltage and low current. You're going to have a hard time running a conventional motor unless you change the power with some sort of transformer.

      Look at this image to get an idea of what I'm talking about... the balloons are the collectors connected to ground by an insulated wire.



      Here is a good page explaining things...

      Hermann Plauson: Conversion of Atmospheric Electricity (Articles & patents)
      Last edited by SilverToGold; 01-09-2014, 06:58 AM.

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      • #4
        I think SilvertoGold has given you an answer which is closer to the one you were looking for.
        I do not know much about Plausons work. But after reading SilvertoGolds reply I think the term atmospheric electricity is misleading, for that makes me think of the Earth-ionosphere energy, which causes the 100V/m electric field that we all live in. But that is not the source of electricity in Plausons experiments, I believe...

        I think this is:
        Originally posted by Nikola Tesla
        In recent experiments I have discovered two novel facts of importance in this connection. One of these facts is that an electric current is generated in a wire extending from the ground to a great height by the axial, and probably also by the translatory, movement of the earth. No appreciable current, however, will flow continuously in the wire unless the electricity is allowed to leak out into the air. Its escape is greatly facilitated by providing at the elevated end of the wire a conducting terminal of great surface, with many sharp edges or points. We are thus enabled to get a continuous supply of electrical energy by merely supporting a wire at a height, but, unfortunately, the amount of electricity which can be so obtained is small.
        ("the Problem of Increasing Human Energy, Century Magazine, June 1900)

        Ernst.

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        • #5
          Earthe voltage question

          Thanks guys for the replies. Magnetohead

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