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    Hi Carroll, Exactly .
    Only use what you need.
    artv

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    • Fourier series




      From:
      Fourier series - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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      • Originally posted by citfta View Post
        Since the southeastern US is frozen in today I decided to do a little experimenting. I was using a circuit similar to Bedini's SSG except I wanted to know what effect I would get be controlling the on time of the transistor that turns on the coil. I connected my picaxe controller so I could precisely control the on time. What I found may not have anything to do with the discussion going on in this thread but maybe it might.

        I found that with a fixed load the voltage of the discharge impulse does not change. This agrees with conventional theory. But I also found something I didn't know but maybe some of you already do. If I keep the on pulses shorter than enough to saturate the core then I can control the length of the discharge pulses. Once I have the on pulses long enough to saturate the core then the discharge times stay the same no matter how long the on pulses are. So anything beyond the time to saturate the core is wasted energy. I already knew that but I didn't know exactly why. Now I do.

        So we can't change the discharge voltage by varying the input pulse length but we can change the input length to change the output length up to the point where we reach saturation of the core.

        If this information is of no use to anyone just ignore it.

        I just now realized there is something else I need to check out. I wonder what effect changing the on pulse voltage will have. Maybe tomorrow I can check that out. If I find something interesting I will post that as well if I don't get bashed too much for being somewhat off topic.

        Carroll
        Hi Carroll,

        You may find this post here also useful for your tests (no need to log in for seeing the pictures):

        STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

        Gyula

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        • The core

          Everybody always talk about the core becoming saturated ,get rid of the core.
          Just use more coils?
          No core ,less strength, more coils more strength?
          Use the space used by the core , and replace it with conductive material.
          The road just keeps throwing more curves at me.
          artv

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          • Originally posted by shylo View Post
            Everybody always talk about the core becoming saturated ,get rid of the core.
            Just use more coils?
            No core ,less strength, more coils more strength?
            Use the space used by the core , and replace it with conductive material.
            The road just keeps throwing more curves at me.
            artv
            In my view, as Steorn demonstrated before and Naudin confirmed in his website, there is another demo starting at 1:35 minute mark: Muller Dynamo Experiments - YouTube

            A magnetic field affects the inductance of a coil. In other words, inductance is not a constant of number of turns and geometry, but it also depends on the magnetism which it is immersed into.

            If we have been thought weight is a constant and taken as fact when one gets up on the scale, that was based on the constancy of both mass and gravity. If there is a shred of confidence in Tesla's comparison between mass and self-inductance, one can notice that presence of a magnet bar can affect mass, hence weight.

            Saturated or not saturated core is immaterial when we notice the effects of magnetic fields on matter (or coil in this case).

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            • post off topic
              Last edited by Allcanadian; 02-26-2014, 04:11 AM.

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              • I apologize for the off topic remark here, but I have to say:
                Allcanadian, I know you know this stuff but take it as a friendly memo.
                Electron? there is no stinkin' electron! It's just just a stationary wave of a substance which was called "luminiferous aether".
                Here is one electron (accepted by modern quantum quacks):


                or this:



                More evolved particles, growing into more complex bodies are demonstrated (with it's 3D limitations) by cymatics. All perfectly geometrical organized vibrating structures:



                To bad these representations are pretty much 2D, unlike our 3D walking reality.

                First scientists eliminated from "luminiferous aether" the term "luminiferous" (=light) which seemed irrelevant, light not going logically along with the "aether". Then they proved the non-existence of aether.

                Someone noticed the error and wrote to scientists:
                The cardinal error of science lies in shutting the Creator out of His Creation.
                Of course they have ignored the remark and reached conclusions which contradict their first observations (same reppel, opposites atract):


                But if you look again to the picture of electron, easyer the second one, you could find two different electrons having different phases that could bond, symulating the balance of rest.

                In fact it would be possible (using doppler effect) to simulate the solar wind too:


                I hope I was not trampling with my boots too hard in anyone's private space.
                Last edited by barbosi; 02-03-2014, 03:16 AM.

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                • From Tesla's article "The Problem of Increasing Human Energy"



                  DIAGRAM a. THE THREE WAYS OF INCREASING HUMANENERGY.

                  Let, then, in diagram a, M represent the mass of man. This mass is impelled in one direction by a force f, which is resisted by another partly frictional and partly negative force R, acting in a direction exactly opposite, and retarding the movement of the mass. Such an antagonistic force is present in every movement and must be taken into consideration. The difference between these two forces is the effective force which imparts a velocity V to the mass M in the direction of the arrow on the line representing the force f. In accordance with the preceding, the human energy will then be given by the product ½ MV^2 = ½ MV x V, in which M is the total mass of man in the ordinary interpretation of the term "mass," and V is a certain hypothetical velocity, which, in the present state of science, we are unable exactly to define and determine.

                  To increase the human energy is, therefore, equivalent to increasing this product, and there are, as will readily be seen, only three ways possible to attain this result, which are illustrated in the above diagram. The first way shown in the top figure, is to increase the mass (as indicated by the dotted circle), leaving the two opposing forces the same. The second way is to reduce the retarding force R to a smaller value r, leaving the mass and the impelling force the same, as diagrammatically shown in the middle figure.

                  The third way, which is illustrated in the last figure, is to increase the impelling force f to a higher value F, while the mass and the retarding force R remain unaltered. Evidently fixed limits exist as regards increase of mass and reduction of retarding force, but the impelling force can be increased indefinitely. Each of these three possible solutions presents a different aspect of the main problem of increasing human energy, which is thus divided into three distinct problems, to be successively considered.
                  I think from what has been sugested, Erfinder is demonstrating at minimum, the second way "to reduce the retarding force R to a smaller value r, leaving the mass and the impelling force the same." Or even the annihilation of it, namely Lenz force. Or even, even more, making it (Lenz force) work with the force f.

                  Regards.
                  Last edited by barbosi; 02-03-2014, 05:05 AM.

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                  • Parallel Coils

                    Hello Steve, I'm happy to see you having so much fun here. I've breezed over the pages here and see some topics that I've worked on and might have a few things to add. First I know I wouldn't be welcome by some of the members, but if they are willing to let the water pass under the bridge, I can promise to be as polite as I possible can to everyone here. I'd like to hang around and see where things are going but if anyone thinks I'll be disruptive, I can just enjoy what everyone is talking about and respond only if you ask something of me.
                    Good luck and kindest regards.
                    John

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                    • Originally posted by DadHav View Post
                      Hello Steve, I'm happy to see you having so much fun here. I've breezed over the pages here and see some topics that I've worked on and might have a few things to add. First I know I wouldn't be welcome by some of the members, but if they are willing to let the water pass under the bridge, I can promise to be as polite as I possible can to everyone here. I'd like to hang around and see where things are going but if anyone thinks I'll be disruptive, I can just enjoy what everyone is talking about and respond only if you ask something of me.
                      Good luck and kindest regards.
                      John
                      Hello John,

                      Make yourself at home! Feel free to post whatever you want whenever you want as often as you like. I look forward to reading your posts.

                      Regards

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                      • Hi John,

                        Glad to see you back. I always look forward to your posts and builds and videos.



                        Originally posted by DadHav View Post
                        Hello Steve, I'm happy to see you having so much fun here. I've breezed over the pages here and see some topics that I've worked on and might have a few things to add. First I know I wouldn't be welcome by some of the members, but if they are willing to let the water pass under the bridge, I can promise to be as polite as I possible can to everyone here. I'd like to hang around and see where things are going but if anyone thinks I'll be disruptive, I can just enjoy what everyone is talking about and respond only if you ask something of me.
                        Good luck and kindest regards.
                        John
                        Carroll
                        Just because someone disagrees with you does NOT make them your enemy. We can disagree without attacking someone.

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                        • Thanks Steve, Carroll. Maybe you can help me out. I must be missing something or haden't paid attention to something because I have no luck with the video files Steve has posted. Did the download time run out from the drop site or is it possible I'm not waiting long enough for something to happen when I click on the link? I get a little green lock that's closed in front of the hyper link when it shows up in the browser.
                          Cheers
                          John

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                          • I didn't try them all, but the last clip was ok. Try "save link as" or whatever is on right click, depending on operating system you have.

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                            • Originally posted by barbosi View Post
                              I didn't try them all, but the last clip was ok. Try "save link as" or whatever is on right click, depending on operating system you have.
                              Oh, of course, I knew that! Ha, No I didn't. Save target as works for me too. Thanks.
                              John

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                              • Hello Steve, I think I've watched all your videos, thanks for spending so much time on everything. Did I miss something though? Did you post any circuit diagrams? I'm not sure what a hall triggered 555 PWM circuit is. Are you using the 555 like a One Shot or are you hitting the power coils with a square wave when the trigger is on? I'm guessing. The MoGen is even more confusing to me. Is the motor a single shaft with two rotors and two sets of coils, or one long rotor going through two sets of coils? Either way the coils are completely isolated from Mo to Gen right, at least while all electronics is disconnected. Here again if you have a diagram posted I must have missed it. I have a lot of questions but will wait to see if there is a diagram somewhere. Am I right by saying the effect you are demonstrating to be working as you expect is the increase of speed in the motor when a load was placed on the output of the generator? I was also wondering about the self oscillation in the trace of the scope. I'm wondering if it is actually self oscillating. Every oscillation I've seen shows as a separate higher frequency much like a typical blocking oscillator. In one of your videos I heard a lot of different sounds from the motor you had hooked up as it accelerated. Is it possible the what your seeing as an oscillation might be a vibration in the motor or some sort of harmonic as the speed or current draw increases rather than an oscillation? Just guessing on everything so far Steve, I hope I'm not just wasting everyones time.
                                John

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