Fukushima part 2

[Allcanadian]

This is interesting:
ENENews.com – Energy News

What may be the most under reported disaster of this century and yet the main stream news seems completely silent on the issue. The level of complete and utter incompetence shown by all levels of government is mind boggling. As well it was verified that most all the government agencies involved have withheld information so the public would not become alarmed. So let me get this straight, they have withheld information that we are being poisoned by radioactive waste so we will not become alarmed about the fact we are being poisoned by radio-freaking active waste....Really. I mean if any sane person should be alarmed about something this would be it. These people are either stupid or incompetent or both and I trust them about as far as I could throw them... preferably off a cliff.


It almost seems comical that so many here may believe in some kind of conspiracy by government and yet time and time again they have shown themselves to be bumbling half-wits. I would agree there is a conspiracy and it is in the fact that the government and there agencies are for the most part incapable of making responsible decisions about anything, used car salesmen one and all.

It kind of reminds me of the BP disaster, Hmm have to wonder where all that oil went?. BP oil spill | Environment | The Guardian.

However the best article I have read recently is here--http://www.treehugger.com/fossil-fuels/peak-oil-irrelevant.html

Oil is a Weapon of Mass Destruction because we know as a fact it will eventually destroy our planet. Which puts a new spin on it doesn't it?. At which point we can identify the true terrorists which is any government supporting oil and gas corporations. They are terrorists, one and all because they have taken actions which will eventually kill billions of people. In fact they make the Taliban look like a freaking boy scouts jamboree.

AC

[Ufopolitics]

I agree 100%...but...

This is interesting:
ENENews.com – Energy News

What may be the most under reported disaster of this century and yet the main stream news seems completely silent on the issue. As well the level of complete and utter incompetence shown by all levels of government is mind boggling.

It almost seems comical that so many here may believe in some kind of conspiracy by government and yet time and time again they have shown themselves to be bumbling half-wits. I would agree there is a conspiracy and it is in the fact that the government and there agencies are for the most part incapable of making responsible decisions about anything, used car salesmen one and all.

It kind of reminds me of the BP disaster, Hmm have to wonder where all that oil went?. BP oil spill | Environment | The Guardian.

However the best article I have read recently is here--http://www.treehugger.com/fossil-fuels/peak-oil-irrelevant.html

Oil is a Weapon of Mass Destruction because we know as a fact it will eventually destroy our planet. Which puts a new spin on it doesn't it?. At which point we can identify the true terrorists which is any government supporting oil and gas corporations. They are terrorists, one and all because they have taken actions which will eventually kill billions of people. In fact they make the Taliban look like a freaking boy scouts jamboree.

AC

Hello AC,

Yes, I agree 100% with you...however, thinking the ones to blame are 'governments' take the load of the real threat.

Governments are just Puppets...Car Salesmen exactly like you've mentioned that ran for election...or retired Hollywood Stars...and every now and then... a Lawyer...big deal right?...Actually there is no Professional University Career to become a Politician isn't it?

The "Big Boys" responsible for this Global mess...do not need people to elect them...they got inspired by an old phrase by some of their family ancestors..."Give me access to a Country currency...and I could care less who makes their laws..." Rothschild 1700's...

This way a Farmer...selling wood, could someday become a Bankster...just like J.P Morgan...or a simple Accountant like the first Rockefeller became the first American Tycoon...they have no flags to obey to...remember Standard Oil (owned by Rockefeller) sold fuel additives to the Fuhrer Planes in WWI...or they would never get off ground...

They make money on wars...on economical crisis triggered by themselves...on lending to Governments and to the War Industry Complex...which by now they also own.

This Fat Katz...are the ones who say the last words on any decision by any government in our planet...they decide when and who to invade...how to professionally demolish some high set buildings...in order to bring slavery laws into enforcement...and a reason to open war to a foreign country...

Some People call this "Families" the "TPTB"...and honestly I do not find that term right either..."The Powers That Be"...is a too general , too naive name...it tends to confusion and not disclosing properly who they really are.

I have always called them...THE ESTABLISHMENT

It is a very long and very well established Families Based Operation...just like the Maffia works...except this guys makes the Corleone's and the Capone's look like you have said...Boys Scouts...

Governments, as you've said...are very incapable...and not organized at all...but "THEY" for sure are none of those.

And, of course...Oil based Energy is their main asset...so they defend it like Tigers and Lions defend their kittens.


Regards


Ufopolitics

[Gdez]

Independence

Well said guys. That's why I am really into "free energy". It's unbeleivable how much the average person(myself included) participate in this madness, even though I can't stand it. It's harder then you would think to opt out of "their" system.
Not buying all their garbage helps alot.
I am making progress everyday with my food and energy independence, and learning a ton of stuff along the way.
Unfortunately, It feels like trying to get up a big hill and there is some dicks at the top rolling boulders at ya.
Looking at fukupshima and the amount of pollution from fossil fuels, it seems that we will be going into a brave new world. You would think the "establishment" , would at least care about there own children, but obvoiusly not.
I think the thing that bothers me the most is that before we see the worst of the consequences of fukishima and big oil, we will be forced to sit back and watch our environment die around us. Sea life seems like it will be the first to go. What will everybody tell their children, when they ask what happened to all this life. The amount of radiation being poured into the pacific right now is probably unimaginable to the average person, and like some, I think the lack of media attention almost borderline insanity.
It will probably take an accident( i mean a big one) in the US before people really wake up to this stuff. If you like to watch horror movie's to scare yourself, just start reading up about our overdriven reactors here, and you should save yourself a few bucks on movies, and be as terrified as ever.
I really hope that I am worrying to much and that this stuff doesn't happen, but the more you learn about these things, it seems that things are probably even worse then you thought.
Pretty freakin depressing but, what do you do? give up and ***** about it?
I think things will at this point get way worse before they get better, but I myself will just keep trying to be a better person. If you can make that contagious, maybe we will get somewhere.
Gdez

[Allcanadian]

@UFO

Some People call this "Families" the "TPTB"...and honestly I do not find that term right either..."The Powers That Be"...is a too general , too naive name...it tends to confusion and not disclosing properly who they really are.

I have always called them...THE ESTABLISHMENT

Have you ever wondered why you cannot name them?, why there is no one person or group you can point your finger at and say yes it is them?. Logic would suggest that the easiest way to mislead someone is to have them blame an entity. It's like saying sure I threw that rock at your head but I didn't hit you the rock did and gravity was complicit in this action. You should blame the rock and gravity, you see my point?.

The church is famous for this when another priest decides to bugger a few alter boy's. It was not the church that is guilty but the priest who is a man and men are weak and subject to temtation so we should blame the devil. Let's just have the priest confess and say a few hail mary's and all will be forgiven. Well no the guy is a pedophile and belongs in jail and the church must take some responsibility.

Now ask yourself, why do we have nobody to blame?, why is there never a single person or group we can say is solely responsible?. Well because you have been duped that's why. I imagine the corporate entities decided they needed an inanimate entity to take all the blame so they could go about making a profit no matter what was required. The same goes for the government entities where the people blame government instead of the people in government who actually made the bad decisions.

To be honest I find this completely mind boggling and see it almost on a daily basis. A co-worker screws up and it's just called an accident and accidents happen and that's just life so all is well. Well no they screwed up and should take responsibility for their actions so they might actually learn something. We live in an age where nobody takes responsibility for their actions and nobody is to blame.... it's FUBAR.

Which raises the ultimate question, when did supposedly responsible adults stop acting like responsible adults. You see no responsible adult should deny all responsibilty for their actions and no responsible adult should blame inanimate objects or believe nobody is to blame, that is absurd.

AC

[Allcanadian]

@Gdez

I think things will at this point get way worse before they get better, but I myself will just keep trying to be a better person. If you can make that contagious, maybe we will get somewhere

.

I would agree, it is human nature to deny what we fear or do not understand until we are forced to deal with it. We do what we can when we can and hope it makes a difference.

I'm doing my own thing on two fronts and one is developing real technologies that are simple and work and second trying to spread awareness of the issues we face without all the propaganda usually associated with it. I think we need real facts in order to make a real difference.

What is interesting to note is that in a fairly short time frame this FE forum may become a mute point. Solar power components are dropping like a rock exponentially and in most cases it is cheaper than any supposed FE device we could buy on a dollar per Kw/Hr basis. Which is interesting in that the real solution may have been right in front of us all this time.
At this point I figure I can put together a complete DIY 1Kw grid tie system for around $500 shipped on a slow boat from China.

AC

[Ufopolitics]

@UFO

Have you ever wondered why you cannot name them?, why there is no one person or group you can point your finger at and say yes it is them?.
Now ask yourself, why do we have nobody to blame?, why is there never a single person or group we can say is solely responsible?.

AC

AC,

Of course We could name them one by one...no person, no group...Families.

Exactly Four Families as the main Pyramid Top Eye...(by alphabetical order)

1-Bilderberg
2-Morgan
3-Rockefeller
4-Rothschild

There are more below their level...of course, getting all the way down till there are the rest of Us...

This Families have been established for decades and decades and decades, many generations and still there...to over centuries (since 1700) in the case of the First on the top...The Rothschild's...they own 80%...of the Earth "Legal Tender Notes" (I guess they really took seriously the ancestor's counseling.)

Inheritance on the "Business as Usual" on a Full Time basis is the will tendered from generation to generation...no mistakes...the Junior takes over the Senior, not only the wealth...but same education, same rules, same costumes...same exact business.

The "techniques" were established by their ancestors...Big Donations to Education Centers...Art Centers...so they can have "executive" access, directly to modify or simply seize any "inconvenient material" to be taught or broadcasted just like they did with Electric Engineer Nikola Tesla...

Huge Donations on Scientific Research Funding...for same purposes...having control, a perfect, 100% filtering from any "inconvenience" to be spilled...

Stealing Scientists...or could we say "buy them out"...to fulfill their purposes above in a majestic way ...remember Lorentz?

Morgan and Edison funded General Electric back in the Tesla times...and still is out there...stronger than ever and a living example of what am talking about...search GE.com | imagination at work...then visit "Products"
Find out that the LEAST of their prime income comes from electric motors or generators...BUT from Military Turbines for Apache's and Fighters Jets, Bombing Planes and all kind of War and Commercial air, sea and land craft...what else?

Oh, of course...Drill baby Drill...all kind of equipment to establish your Oil Drilling Facilities and required Tooling's...from Island Floating Extracting Sites to the ones on land...

and finally...great offers to finance your "Student Career" into their FREAKING Green Future...

New Generations...want to become an EE with GE?...Be Welcome!...

AC, there is SO MUCH more...search Media owned by GE...Radio Stations, TV Stations...the works...

Investors welcome.

Health Plans...

Careers...

And this is just one Corp owned by just one of this Family Cartel members...the Morgan's...they own hundreds and thousands more all over the world.


It is too much to list in just one post...but you all could do a small google search


Regards


Ufopolitics

[Tishatang]

Hi All,

There is a lot of fear porn re radiation being spread around. I found this site that gives opposite view with real numbers. We can't really believe what is truth in the news given all the false flag operations and actors posing as victims on the news.

Go here and read the whole page, make take a while.

Jimstonefreelance.com - The new root of truth.

Galen Winsor years ago gave lectures on the manufactured lie about radiation. He even ate radioactive isotopes. He died at age 82, not from radiation poisoning, but parkinsons as per his son. Not from lukemia as rumored. Search Galen Winsor, youtube for videos.

After viewing a Galen video about a year ago, I did a small look-up on Madam Curie. Very similar fake news about Madam Curie dying from radiation exposure. Read bio wiki. But, read bio at Noble Prize site just below google seach and she died from sudden illness at age 67. In her era, average age around 50. Obviously, radiation exposure did not shorten her life.

Radiation can be bad, but just maybe we are being brainwashed about how bad it really is?

Yes, they own the oil reserves and the queen of england owns most the uranium mines and they fight anything that threatens their monopoly. Yes, we need a simple device that any handyman can build to gain our freedom.

I had an inspiration a short time back. I saw the solution with two auto alternators back to back ala rotor-verter. I have started my build. If anything comes of it, I will post.

Warm regards,
Chris

[wayne.ct]

Baloney Sandwich and Sick Stomach

I think people need to get educated on the issues and those people that have an interest in the subject and carefully investigate it know it is serious. I'm not so sure that what happens next is the best thing, but people are basically going to do whatever they think is in their personal best interest. If they are not doing that, then they don't really understand where their personal best interest lies. When viewed from that perspective, I would have to agree that most people are too stupid for their own good. In that way they are bumbling half-wits, as AC says.

Can the bumbling half-wits be saved from their own foolishness? Call me pessimistic, but I think history demonstrates that the answer is no. People will not be saved. It may be worse than WW2. I think I read recently that 500,000,000 people died in that action. I think the world population was less than 3,000,000,000. That comes out somewhere near one in six. Wow!

So, each person needs to do what they believe to be right. They need to do their best. If that means take up a gun and become an assassin, that would not be me. I do think people should spend at least some consideration for other people, however. If what you do tends to destroy infrastructure and the society around you, you have to be ready to accept the end result. The families, or ptb, or whatever, are going to migrate to Australia, or Jamaica, or wherever. You are not going to attack them directly. But, you can distance yourself from the consequences, as much as possible. If you do that, perhaps you can improve your survival potential.

I keep hearing it is the end of the world (as we know it) but we are still here. I also think there is a greater good and it is found in the person and example of Jesus Christ. The Holy Bible declares that in the time of God's wrath, He will destroy the people who "destroy the earth". You can read it for yourself. The reference is Rev. 11:18.

Is there any activity that you can engage in that does not support the establishment? Focus on things like that and in that way the beast will be deprived of its strength.

[blackchisel97]

Hi All,

There is a lot of fear porn re radiation being spread around.
Radiation can be bad, but just maybe we are being brainwashed about how bad it really is?

Warm regards,
Chris

Chris, I apologize for clipping your message down to couple lines.
I was in Armed Forces, couple hundred miles from Chernobyl on that particular day in 1986. They managed to contain the threat at cost of over 1,000 000 "volunteers", soldiers, miners. They were digging tunnel under reactor by hand, racing with time. Did you ever hear the nick name "bio-robot"? They were people raking graphite from the roof. Remote controlled devices failed, due to radiation. Did you ever have a chance to see a big field with parked firetrucks, choppers, military vehicles etc. They were abandoned as too radioactive and will remain there forever. Did you have a chance to see some of the documentaries from special hospitals for children which were born with horrible abnormalities?
This accident was a very serious reminder to all of us not to meddle with forces we cannot fully control. This accident was a very narrow miss which could render most of Europe uninhabitable for a very long time. This reactor contained approx. 70T of uranium rods. Fukushima contains 1500T of uranium and mox fuel which can be usually found in plants enriching uranium for military purposes. Half life of uranium is bad enough but plutonium stays very potent for much, much longer.
How bad it really is? Such question should be posed not to authorities or plant operators but those few who remember and are still alive. There are people in Japan as well who could answer that right now and this is just a beginning. Also, people from countries were military used uranium laced ammo could answer that. Those places will remained contaminated and shouldn't be occupied. Ask soldiers who were transporting and using this ammo.
Are we being brainwashed? Of course, on every possible occasion, 24/7.
My reply isn't meant to scare or induce a "fear porn". There is plenty enough being artificially manufactured for each and every one of us. Fear can save one's life but can be also used as a tool to maintain the order and have means of control over large masses but it's overdose can induce panic and unpredictable behavior triggered by prime survival instinct. Our brain has no purpose without its host and it will try to protect it by all means. Our interpretation of such warning signal maybe right or wrong. We live or we die.

Regards
V

[ren]

Hi AC,

I read something recently on "Peak Oil" I found very interesting. On the origins of oil anyway, thought Id share.

Some good stuff on his site regarding many things.

Larry Hannigan's Australia - The Origins of Oil

Regards

[Gdez]

Well because you have been duped that's why

I don't think anybody on this thread has been.."duped".
We all seem to know what's going on, but we all probably just feel a little helpless. The problem is many, many others are being "duped" by the mass propaganda that invades every part of peoples lives.
I guess maybe that's why I really like these forums, because even though many of us don't agree on certain things, we do agree upon some things completely.
If all the talented people that I see on these forums got there heads together for one little project, I imagine the results would be amazing.
These days, it doesn't take much to inspire. maybe we should all take a step back and think about what we could really do if we tried.
Good luck to all,
Gdez

[Hrothgar]

What is interesting to note is that in a fairly short time frame this FE forum may become a mute point. Solar power components are dropping like a rock exponentially and in most cases it is cheaper than any supposed FE device we could buy on a dollar per Kw/Hr basis. Which is interesting in that the real solution may have been right in front of us all this time.
At this point I figure I can put together a complete DIY 1Kw grid tie system for around $500 shipped on a slow boat from China.

AC

There are a couple of problems with that:
1. You may have the room to put it up but there are plenty of people who don't.
2. You may have the technical know how to do it yourself but others will find it's not the cost of the panel that is prohibitive but the contractors required by lots of localities can cost $10/watt for installation of a grid tie setup the last time I checked for my location.
3. If the entire grid is powered by solar then the whole nation now has great
clean until the sun goes down. Batteries are great for after dark. BUT! Lead acid batteries are the opposite of great for our environment when used in that volume.

Taking in to account that if TPTB see little threat in solar and would let it slip in component price is made up in the fact that installation regulations still keep the costs stable and it can only displace so much of demand before it's natural shortcomings come heavily into play. This forum won't be moot.

[PYak1967]

Name, Names!!!!

Have you ever wondered why you cannot name them?, why there is no one person or group you can point your finger at and say yes it is them?. Logic would suggest that the easiest way to mislead someone is to have them blame an entity. It's like saying sure I threw that rock at your head but I didn't hit you the rock did and gravity was complicit in this action. You should blame the rock and gravity, you see my point?.

I CAN Name many of them and I'm not Harry Potter so I'm not afriad to say their names; Rothschilds, Rockefellers, JPMorgan, Saxe-Coburg Gothe (UK Royals now named Windsors as looked bad when we were at WAR with Germany), Dutch Royals, Bush, Black Nobility, European Royalty and many more of their cohorts. WHO else would set up Tax Havens for rich people to HIDE their ill gotten gains, than other rich elites, as it does not benefit mankind in any way. I could write on for days, but you'll say "I'm paranoid", well I AM Paranoid, but that doesn't mean it isn't true! lol Now forgive me while I get abducted by some aliens.....woooosh.

[PYak1967]

Not Harmful?? Hmmmm!!!

Originally Posted by Tishatang View Post
Hi All,

There is a lot of fear porn re radiation being spread around.
Radiation can be bad, but just maybe we are being brainwashed about how bad it really is?

Warm regards,
Chris

I Live many 1,000s of miles away from Chernobyl and our sheep farmers could NOT sell their lambs for yrs as they were too radioactive, yet I had to live here...LOL. Great eh, NOT Harmful, I've lost so many family/friends of all ages to fast aggressive cancers not heard of so much before this atrocity. Atrocity/Crime ARE the correct words, as these people allowed nuclear power to be used even though MANY other cleaner/cheaper and better forms of power are available on our wonderful life support system called Earth. Wind, Hydro, Solar, Thorium, think we have plenty of other options, it's just oil corps are too powerful/greedy!

[Allcanadian]

@Hrothgar

There are a couple of problems with that:
1. You may have the room to put it up but there are plenty of people who don't.
2. You may have the technical know how to do it yourself but others will find it's not the cost of the panel that is prohibitive but the contractors required by lots of localities can cost $10/watt for installation of a grid tie setup the last time I checked for my location.
3. If the entire grid is powered by solar then the whole nation now has great
clean until the sun goes down. Batteries are great for after dark. BUT! Lead acid batteries are the opposite of great for our environment when used in that volume.

I understand completely and most people will make up any excuse not to even try to make a difference. Rather than address your points I'm going to give you an example. About 20 years ago I decided I wanted to build my own house and everyone thought I was crazy... except my wife who knows me all too well. So I went to the library and took out some books on the subject and the stack was around three feet high if you added them all up. Then in the evening I went around and looked at all the new houses being built in the new sub-division where I had bought my lot and made notes on everything.

To make a long story short, I built a brand new show home quality house 1550sq/ft bungalow with vaulted ceilings, 650 sq/ft double attached garage, 200 sq/ft covered deck at the rear in 10 months while holding down a full time job. I did everything myself and it was contractor free with the exception of the foundation and slabs ie. concrete work. I also passed all the inspections with no problems to speak of. So you look around your house tonight and think about that... what one man can do.

That was the first of three houses I have scratch built from the ground up by myself while holding down a full time job so you see I find it completely and utterly ridiculous that anyone would even suggest that they could not install a few solar panels by themselves. I do not accept it, I do not believe it and it is a BS excuse to do nothing or not even try.

AC