Patent a hybrid circuit??

[magnetman12003]

Hi All,

I have constructed a HYBRID 24 volt DC circuit that has a little of Bedini, Davro, and my own wiring and part selections incorporated in it. It can also operate with as little as 1.5 volts

Its a motor/generator device that has many things going for it all at one time when running. It can charge other devices as well as use lower watt power when a load is applied to the motor. It can fully light up a 7 watt 120/220 AC Led lamp intermittently.

What I would like to know can the circuit be patented as there is nothing I see that looks or acts like this hybrid circuit on the internet.

I would appreciate any advice from someone that is very familiar with patent laws.

MAGNETMAN12003

[Turion]

Patent

Even an improvement on an existing patent can be patented. My wife works in intellectual property law, and I can recommend a few good attorneys. If that's the way you want to go. Here are some things to consider

1. It will cost you in the neighborhood of $10,000.00 in attorney fees to file a patent and run the required patent searches.

2. Any patent you are able to acquire is subject to patent challenges. Which means if you have a patent and ANY PART of it is similar to ANY PART of ANY OTHER patent currently held by any company, they can challenge your patent in court and YOU are required to defend this challenge at YOUR expense or forfeit the rights to your patent. If you have anything that one of the big companies fears could disrupt their current income, I can promise you that you will have many, MANY patent challenges to defend against. So I hope you have very deep pockets. Many big companies have been buying up patents FOR YEARS just to have this "inventory" of crappy patents that they can drag out if anything special comes along.

You may want to rethink the idea of patenting ANY device that puts you in the spotlight. Probably much, much safer to disclose your idea to everyone, have many confirmed replications, and make your fortune doing late night TV talk shows and tours as the man who changed the world.

Dave

[SilverToGold]

Hi,

In another life, I use to work as a patent clerk at the PTO.

You can file for a Provisional Patent Application, it cost around $100 and gives you a year of protection to shop around your idea/circuit.

To let you know, it cost on average around $10,000 just to get a patent and most of these go nowhere. It can easily cost more also if issues arise.

If your circuit infringes on Bedini's or any others, it could get messy. Without seeing or knowing your circuit, its hard to tell.

Although I did not work directly with circuits while with the PTO, in general, one tries to get as general as possible when filing for a patent. If you are too specific then someone can easily get around your patent. Bedini's circuits are quite general and he knows specifically what works, which is why I assume he patented them as he did. Could someone patent around it? Probably because there are lots of ways to charge up a capacitor and discharge it - not exactly a new idea but Bedini has his own ways that seems to work best for him.

Hard to tell without seeing more but you can give it a shot if you've got money to spend on it.

I would say the best question is SHOULD you patent? Is it worth it? What is your point in patenting it? Depending on your circumstances, it may pay off better to get a Provisional Patent Application and use that year to see if there is a market for it and if you find a buyer/promotor of your idea, then have them pay for the patent.

Hope this was somewhat helpful. It's been a while since I was a patent guy so the brain is a little rusty on this.

[magnetman12003]

Motor/Generator

i want to thank both of you for your input to my qustion. I am mulling this over in my mind and may open source all i know.

That brings up another question about the Schoolgirl motor.
Whats the full story on this. As i see it some young lady took credit but what part did Bedini play in this? Did Bedini patent it?

[SilverToGold]

John helped a school girl with her science project and that's how the name came about... see this page near the bottom : 20* Bedini

The patent for the school girl motor is here https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=p.../US6545444.pdf

Open source is good. Best wishes.

i want to thank both of you for your input to my qustion. I am mulling this over in my mind and may open source all i know.

That brings up another question about the Schoolgirl motor.
Whats the full story on this. As i see it some young lady took credit but what part did Bedini play in this? Did Bedini patent it?

[magnetman12003]

Bee In The Bell Motor/generator

I have decided to show everyone what I have been up to so far.
If there is any interest in buying this let me or my silent partner know.
Right now I dont have a patent pending so i am not going into great detail. Hope someone buys and goes that route. Anyways here is the first video link.

THE BEE IN THE BELL MOTOR/ GENERATOR - YouTube

[Turion]

More information needed

Until and unless you can show power in vs power out, you won't have much interest. I personally have built any number of devices similar to what you have there. Granted, I don't know what is under your bell, but I can pretty much guess that it is a rotating magnet. What is it you are claiming this device does?