Analysis of the WITTS Generator

[QEG]

Resonance means nothing ...

Quantum Energy Generator Forum :: Topic: May 7 - Orlando has resonance ! (1/1)

Quote: " When resonance first started, it hit hard very quick! Large crack from the spark gap! The best news ...we were all very impressed how little input was needed to get this process going.
There was only 171 Watts needed from the DC motor to get resonance.
Very strong phase lock on the rotor when resonance is happening."

"WE ARE ONLY IN THE BEGINNING HERE. WE SUSPECT HOURS POSSIBLY DAYS OF TUNING"

Resonance means NOTHING! Resonance is easy. The QEG is Under-Unity and that is all that matters.

[QEG]

Morocco Overunity Achieved

QEG Overunity - YouTube

You should know by now that the QEG in Morocco does not work. So resonance was meangingless, wasn't it? The QEG cannot be unplugged form the AC Wall Outlet. FTW promised Morocco a WORKING QEG. They left Morocco a 100 lb pile of non-working Steel & Copper. Now what?

[QEG]

Hi tmh, Thanks for the Morocco update.

It would seem with 3kw output and 6 times OU, that it"s just a matter of time before they can loop the system.

I can understand why hope girl and the QEG teams choose to build in such remote places (they have a need), but availability of parts does seem to hinder progress somewhat.

Perhaps when the info from Canada and a new schematic from Jamie is released we will see successful looping from somewhere in the world. Please let it be.

The Beatles - Let It Be Lyrics - YouTube

Gene Gene,
NO, the QEG will never be self-looped. The REAL Power output is not Over-Unity. And Reactive Power is not usable by humans.

[QEG]

Yeah Johnny, when Press gets to ur place send'em over...am gonna test Overunity soon...and invite OrionLightShip to do the Ommmming...


Take care


Ufopolitics

Neither you nor QEG will be testing Over-Unity any time soon. All fairy tales...

[QEG]

This technology is open source.

As far as I can tell, James never signed a NDA with WM. James released his own technology research into public domain as far as I ca tell.

Regards,

VIDBID

But now we KNOW that the QEG that James originally built in Pennsylvania in the USA always was UNDER-UNITY. It was not and is not Over-Unity. This was all a scam. James was tricked by Timothy Thrapp of WITTS. James has made mistake after mistake after mistake. And now James is back in PA scrambling to "save face". But it is impossible to make the QEG Over-Unity.

[QEG]

Version 1.0.7.D

Released on February 14, 2014

Download Your Free Copy

There are two possibilities ...

1) It is fake

2) It is fake

[QEG]

Yep. It looks pretty close.

Regards,

VIDBID

Yes the FTW QEG looks exactly like the WITTS Generator because James Robitaille of FTW was trained by Timothy Thrapp of WITTS. James admitted taking one class (10 are needed) and then James left to give away the plans for FREE via FTW. But you must call and pay FTW $300 / hour for SPECIAL TUNING instructions which Jamie has NEVER never figured out. Now that could be a problem for you, right?

[QEG]

Hi Vidbid and other members

thanks Vidbid for your careful analysis of the Witts / QEG prototype.

I am new here, but trying to follow F.E. research for many years now. Sorry, english is not my native language.

I believe that an important tool to understand how the QEG functions is the parametric principle.

To let grow oscillations in a floating (not connected elsewhere) LC circuit, you don't need neither source nor magnet. You only need to vary with a sufficient percentual modulation, one of the parameters, L or C, at about 2 times the LC resonant frequency. The oscillation will start from zero (there is always some thermal stochastic current in the circuit, even in the nA or pA range; or some tiny current induced from the surroundings) and grow at very high amplitude, limited only by the resistance of the circuit (of the coil, principally) and by nonlinear components.

Now, in the QEG there is magnetic coupling between the 3100 turns coils and the low voltage ones. And the coupling factor is also parametrically varying, depending on the position of the rotor.

You verify on the configuration of the proto that the inductance goes through a maximum 4 times per revolution of the rotor, at 40 Hz (revolutions per second) this means 160 Hz. Now, I am not sure but I think you can also excite the oscillations with half the frequency of the LC resonance. This would mean 320 Hz. To verify.

In your post of April 2nd, 7:17 PM, you have cited a comment of Bert. I just wanted to propose the following tentative answers to some questions:

- the driving motor can well be an universal (series connected field) motor, which would accept AC input, varying the speed through the variac.
- capacitor too small: I believe that the L cannot be so huge, must be in the Henries range, no more; to be verified. These 0.2 uF must resonate with the coil at about 400 Hz, a first calculation delivers 0,79 Henry.
- from the last Q/A update, the LC of the exciter circuit should "capture" a 1.3 MHz signal. This is really weird. I was first thinking that this exciter part, which is in series with output L1 (inoperative without any load connected) could play some role in the on-load voltage regulation. I can be totally wrong. The spark gap can also limit the amplitude of the LC exciter circuit in parallel. The sparks possibly can also tap some F.E., increasing the COP in comparison with Witts proto. It is known from Tesla, Correa, Frolov, Naudin, etc. that sparks can tap energy in certain conditions...
- 400 Hz 120 V output can be converted in 50 or 60 Hz with some kind of converter, like the cycloconverter. There are many schematics available.

The whole machine is a nice challenge, but considering all the devices I have investigated up to now, it can work. Not easy to analyze, to simulate, to upgrade, but it is well worth the effort !

Here some references about parametric effect:

PARAMETRIC POWER CONVERSION - by JL Naudin

http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Mat...ASA%201968.pdf

http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Mat...ion%201934.pdf

Best regards to all, and... who is willing to build it ?

"parametric".

You said, "it can work". If you mean, "It can work at only 15% - 30% efficiency" then OK but never Over-Unity. The QEG is not worth building at that low efficiency.

[QEG]

All glory to God!

Granted, James did receive some technical help with this technology from WITTS Ministries, but James was able to understand it, and what he learned, he refused to hoard. Instead, he ran with it and ultimately shared it with us.

For that, I give him a huge amount of credit.

I think we should listen to James and hear what he has to say with respect to the technology of the QEG.

I think we can learn something.

Regards,

VIDBID

Please tell me EXACTLY what Jamie has learned about OVER-UNITY?
I suggest the answer is NOTHING.

[Aaron]

Qeg

QEG, you're right - QEG is not what it is hyped up to be.

However, overunity does not violate any thermodynamics as legitimate overunity systems (overunity is an oxymoron but is understood what is meant) - are open dissipative systems and can produce more work in total compared to what we have to input. A refrigerator is one such open dissipative system that is "overunity".

In any case, I just want to point out Peter Lindemann's post because it is relevant to this specific QEG build and what it was actually trying to replicate:

http://www.energeticforum.com/254432-post11.html

Been There, Done That....
Hey Folks,

Here is an email I have sent to a number of people asking me about the QEG.

Thank you for your email. The QEG plans show a simple, switched reluctance generator powered by an external electric motor. (page 7) This has nothing to do with Tesla!!! This exact design was first proposed by John Ecklin in 1979. I was a member of a group of researchers in Santa Barbara who built and tested many variations of this class of generator through the 1980s. These machines are generally called "switched reluctance generators" or more correctly "variable inductance generators."

If you put a capacitor in series with the input, as shown, the unit will "self-excite" if there is a slight amount of magnetism in the rotor or stator material. There are specific speeds where the electrical output power goes up due to the resonance event, but during these episodes, the requirement of mechanical energy input goes up as well. If you just meter the voltage and the amperage, it looks really good, but it's mostly reactive power as the volts and amps are out of phase.

If the output removes magnetic energy from the core, then there is less to circulate in the resonant tank (LC circuit) created by the input coils and the capacitor bank. The system has a specific number of joules of energy (real power) circulating in the magnetic core and any real energy removed is produced by the reversal of the field in the output coils by the rotor shifting position. Rotation of the rotor produces the mechanical shifting of the magnetic fields and reinforces the currents oscillating in the input coils. One of the patent filings I produced back then was titled "Mechanical Rotary Transformer" and covered a design similar to this in many ways. The best tests we produced with our prototypes had a COP = 1.2 (120% efficient). The people involved in the Santa Barbara group included myself, Mike Knox, Bruce DePalma, Chris Carson, and later Eric Dollard. In a parallel development, John Bedini duplicated much of the same series of experiments and concluded the same thing! The best the machines could do was about 120%. All of this happened before the internet, and since the experimental results were disappointing, no final report was ever produced.

Knowing what I know about this class of machine, I do not believe anyone is going to build one of these in their backyard and power their home with it. We spent over $30k building and $50k testing prototypes of these machines between 1981 and 1987. This is not going to go where you think it is going.

I stand by what I said in the newsletter. An "open source" project based on these ideas will not go anywhere. In fact, this was all "open sourced" in the 1980s by John Ecklin. Look here at these links, taken from the archive at Rex Research: John W Ecklin -- Stationary armature generator -- US Patent 3879633, US Patent 4567407, 12 articles
and here:
http://www.rexresearch.com/ecklin/ecklin1.jpg
http://www.rexresearch.com/ecklin/ecklin8.jpg

In the image of the article "ecklin1", John Ecklin is suggesting 400% efficiency was possible, but it never was experimentally demonstrated. In the image of the article "ecklin8", the design of the machine on the left shows the same structure as the one in the QEG plans. The drawing on the right is from my patent filing, first reported on by Paul Brown in 1981. Both Paul and I knew John Ecklin.

Sorry, but I am trying to help people understand that this has been looked at, in depth, over 30 years ago, and it doesn't work well enough to produce a self-running machine.

I have no knowledge of the "Fix the World" group or their motives for putting these plans together, but it is my belief that this sort of machine is not perfected yet, and should not be "open sourced" to a community of enthusiastic people who do not have the machine shop skills or the sophisticated electrical engineering and mathematical background to understand the significant subtleties of a variable inductance machine.

That about covers it!

Best regards,
Peter
__________________
Peter Lindemann, D.Sc.

and http://www.energeticforum.com/254560-post21.html

Films Released in the 1980s
Quote:
Originally Posted by Muon View Post
I agree with Ben, this is exciting news -- COP of 1.2!
BUT... note the rest of what Peter says about this:

It is not too late yet, Peter! If you can show ANY report (or video) of even a 120% device, that can be replicated, you and your team would still be deeply appreciated and highly regarded. And the "Fix the world" people would not be "stealing the show" anymore.

A claim of 120% without a report -- that is what is disappointing!
However, the 120% is EXCITING!

Or, you can let them reap the accolades (and the crowd funding!) while you sit back and watch... and sit on your data.

In short, as Newton and his scientific peers at the Royal Society pointed out 300 years ago -- it is not the first to discover who receives the major credit, but rather the first to PUBLISH and make available to humanity. The latter is what the "Fix the world" people are doing (even though they have not DEMONSTRATED anything like 120%, YET.

But you decide, Peter. At least they have the courage to speak out publicly and show what they are doing!

Dear Muon,

Extensive tests of these machines were shown on two films made in the 1980s. The first, in a film I made at John Bedini's shop in about 1986 and a second one, which I filmed at the Borderlands Lab in 1987. Both of these films, along with a ream of other important material from that era are still available as the downloadable collection called "Classic Energy Videos" which you can check out by clicking here.

History can not be changed, just because it is reported incorrectly and lazy people believe the lies. I don't have to prove anything to anyone. People believe what they want to believe, for the most part.

The "Fix the World" group have no idea what this machine is, or how it operates, otherwise they would not have made such a big deal out of the "self-resonance" of the input, or wound the input section for such high voltage, which isn't necessary for the machine to operate properly.

I only posted in this thread because I thought it was a place where people were looking for perspective on the QEG "media event."

Best regards,
Peter
__________________
Peter Lindemann, D.Sc.

[BroMikey]

How Do you Know?

Please tell me EXACTLY what Jamie has learned about OVER-UNITY?
I suggest the answer is NOTHING.

Hello

Are you some kind of an authority of O.U. devices because your version works? Or did you just graduate from a school of government learning?

Princeton, Yale, Harvard? Etc ETc etC???

Where is your device? Or did you buy a packaged deal of a close copy after saving up your bazooka Bubble gum wrappers?

Or is it more that you think O.U. does not exist?

I hope you don't have to get hit by lightening to find that extra energy is available.

The Witts is a bunch of coils and could produce energy in excess of standard Engineering shatter vomited from our Government control freaks.

Schooling ruins people just as watching the news does in most cases. The people pay money for cable and watch the line of bull on CNN ABC so it has to be true.

Same thing with so called higher learning, pay out the big bucks to swallow hook line and sinker everything your are force fed, instead of investigating things first hand.

Instead the government will tie your shoes for you if you become their pear pressure driven robot.

Have a nice life from inside your dungeon where no light can enter.

Lights out.

Mikey

[Dingus]

All glory to The Hypnotoad!

[QEG]

Hello

Are you some kind of an authority of O.U. devices because your version works? Or did you just graduate from a school of government learning?

Princeton, Yale, Harvard? Etc ETc etC???

Where is your device? Or did you buy a packaged deal of a close copy after saving up your bazooka Bubble gum wrappers?

Or is it more that you think O.U. does not exist?

I hope you don't have to get hit by lightening to find that extra energy is available.

The Witts is a bunch of coils and could produce energy in excess of standard Engineering shatter vomited from our Government control freaks.

Schooling ruins people just as watching the news does in most cases. The people pay money for cable and watch the line of bull on CNN ABC so it has to be true.

Same thing with so called higher learning, pay out the big bucks to swallow hook line and sinker everything your are force fed, instead of investigating things first hand.

Instead the government will tie your shoes for you if you become their pear pressure driven robot.

Have a nice life from inside your dungeon where no light can enter.

Lights out.

Mikey

The answer here is very simple. Stop talking and show us an actual Over-Unity QEG. Be an adult and do it! And stop replying using 3rd grade type of replies. The problem is you cannot. You offer no proof for any of your Over-Unity claims. Prove me wrong. Prove everybody wrong. Use your Over-Unity knowledge to actually create the device. We all know you will not, because you cannot. Your feeble attempts to insult me will never change the fact that your incapable of making an Over-Unity QEG. Let's see if you reply with more insults or will you roll up your sleeves and actually build the QEG that you claims is possible, or not? I say, "You will not build the QEQ because you are all mouth."

[BroMikey]

All Mouth

You are right I am wrong O.U does not exist. Next time I'll will raise my hand to see if it is alright with you if I speak, teach. Am I being a poor student?

I promise not to interrupt your classes anymore.

Mikey

[QEG]

You are right I am wrong O.U does not exist. Next time I'll will raise my hand to see if it is alright with you if I speak, teach. Am I being a poor student?

I promise not to interrupt your classes anymore.

Mikey

Another 3rd grade level reply? How predictable you are. And now we know why you cannot build your imaginary Over-Unity QEG, you are all mouth, no facts and no action. What FACT did you present that proves your claim that the QEG can achieve Over-Unity? Nothing! Zip! Nadda!