Analysis of the WITTS Generator

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QEG Simplified



So.. Interesting.

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VIDBID

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Tesla's Patent #511916

https://www.google.com/patents/US511...ed=0CDUQ6AEwAA

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Core

Are there only four coils on the core?



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QEG is looking a lot like the WITTS Generator



Yep. It looks pretty close.

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After reading QEG manual, it looks like it's the construction plans I asked for.

However, I have more questions.

If the Resonator aka generator doesn't have any magnets and isn't connected to input power, where does it get its power to start operating?

Where does the starting power come from?

It should have a starting input, shouldn't it?

This is what the QEG construction plans say:

Set-up and Testing

Starting with the wiring setup as show in the schematic, disconnect the primary coils from the series capacitor string on one end (disconnect capacitors). This will prevent resonance momentarily.

Connect the input power to the variac. We started with a full 240 volt series wired system, but parallel 120 volt wiring can be used.

Test mechanical assembly by spinning up the motor/rotor/belt and observing operation. Adjust variac voltage from zero to about 3/4 through its range. The active rpm range is under 2500 rpm, so we don't need to spin very fast. Assure there is no stact rub (rotor scrubbing on stator), or other mechanical issues that need to be corrected for smooth operation.

When proper mechanical operation is assured, re-connect the series capacitor bank. The initial configuration of 12 (twelve) 2.5 uF, 2000 volt capacitors gives us .208uF, that will withstand up to 24,000 volts. This initial value should be in the range to produce resonance.

As the machine spins up to resonance, the sound will change, and the rotor speed will lock into the resonant frequency. At this point any further increase of the motor speed control will change the speed only slightly, but the additional mechanical power (horsepower) will drive the core deeper into resonance, thereby increasing the power output. With the single control, the voltage and current (power) can be increased or decreased.

As previously mentioned, the exciter coil is used to provide a conduction path through the quantum field (zero point) into the generator core. This has the effect of polarizing the core, which increases power output over time. After the QEG is first built, the spark gap on the exciter coil should be adjusted (with power off) to between .005" and .010". Start the generator and let it spark for 2-3 seconds, and repeat this 4 or 5 times. Do this whenever starting the generator for the first few weeks of operation.

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[p75213]

This is from QEG OPEN SOURCED | HOPEGIRL BLOG

"First we use a starting power source, such as an outlet or a crank to power the 1 horsepower motor."

I guess you could also include a battery.

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How Are The Coils Energized?

This is from QEG OPEN SOURCED | HOPEGIRL BLOG

"First we use a starting power source, such as an outlet or a crank to power the 1 horsepower motor."

I guess you could also include a battery.

Thanks, p75213.

I appreciate the link and your post.

No doubt that the motor is needed to turn the rotor of the resonator (my term for the generator).

My question refers to how are the coils initially energized if the resonator (generator) contains no magnets, and if no initial input current is being feed to the coils, how do they (the coils) energize so that a magnetic field can build up in the core?

These are the relevant passages I found there:

How the QEG works:

First we use a starting power source, such as an outlet or a crank to power the 1 horsepower motor. This motor spins the rotor in the generator core. The unique oscillator circuitry configuration in the generator core causes resonance to occur. Once the core achieves this resonance it can produce up to 10KW of power, which can then be run through an inverter to power the motor that spins the rotor. You can then unplug the motor from the original power source and the generator will power itself.

So that's the key:

The unique oscillator circuitry configuration in the generator core causes resonance to occur.

I don't see this "unique oscillator circuitry" in the schematic.

In looking at the schematic for the resonator (generator), I don't see where there is a starting current to energize the coils. According to Tim Thrapp, the resonator (generator) has "no magnets" in its construction. The rotor is just a slab of laminated silicon electrical steel. Simply spinning the rotor with the coils de-energized shouldn't produce any current. Where does the power come from to energize the coils? Unless the coils are initially energized by the mains power on start up, I don't see it happening.

I'm just speculating here, but it would seem to me that:

The output coils L1 and L2 are initially energized by this "unique oscillator circuitry" which I believe is just a switch connected to the mains. With the motor turning the rotor of the resonator (generator), once L1 and L2 are energized and in resonance by the mains AC current, then the circuit for the vibrating coils L3 and L4 is closed, and L3 and L4 go into resonance. Once the resonator (generator) is in resonance, then the starting power from the mains to L1 and L2 is disconnected.

Then L1 Connector and Neutral Connector is connected to the variac to power the DC motor through a diode bridge.

Let me know what you all think about it.

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VIDBID

[Joit]

A Friend got a Generator for waterpower. It was a normal Motor without Magents, and when it starts running, it had rest magnetism inside the Iron core.
It did take a while of running until the Generator did deliver the full Power but mainly it magnetizes allways itself with this rest from the core.
Not sure if it works at this Device too, maybe it works faster with this additional power here.

[Beamgate]

Re: Qeg

After reviewing the document, I'm left wondering how the average Joe is going to negotiate the 120/220VAC ; 400hz output.

Can't sell THAT back to the grid.

Construction of the resonator is one thing. Adapting for practical output use will likely cost another several hundred in PF correction, rectification, storage batteries and/or inverters.

Reducing the output windings to fewer turns and a thicker 8AWG might get things closer to 12-24VAC which could be rectified to a useful DC current would simplify the end-user's life a bit, but the resonant design would need to be rethought.

Hmm.

[ZeroMassInertia]

Quote:Vidbid
"My question refers to how are the coils initially energized if the resonator (generator) contains no magnets, and if no initial input current is being feed to the coils, how do they (the coils) energize so that a magnetic field can build up in the core?"
Most metals will pick up alignment with earths north and south poles .Generators without permanent magnets sometimes have to be polarized. See link below.
Think about Ed Leedskalnin PMH the magnetic flux has to be held in circular path until broken, note that the stator is a type of torus.






how to polarize a generator - Ask.com YouTube Search

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Inverter

After reviewing the document, I'm left wondering how the average Joe is going to negotiate the 120/220VAC ; 400hz output.

Can't sell THAT back to the grid.

Construction of the resonator is one thing. Adapting for practical output use will likely cost another several hundred in PF correction, rectification, storage batteries and/or inverters.

Reducing the output windings to fewer turns and a thicker 8AWG might get things closer to 12-24VAC which could be rectified to a useful DC current would simplify the end-user's life a bit, but the resonant design would need to be rethought.

Hmm.

Hi Beamgate.

Good point.

It looks like the way that they are addressing that issue is to use an inverter to convert the electricity to the proper 120VAC waveform.

How the QEG works:

First we use a starting power source, such as an outlet or a crank to power the 1 horsepower motor. This motor spins the rotor in the generator core. The unique oscillator circuitry configuration in the generator core causes resonance to occur. Once the core achieves this resonance it can produce up to 10KW of power, which can then be run through an inverter to power the motor that spins the rotor. You can then unplug the motor from the original power source and the generator will power itself..

Source: Removing The Shackles: QEG OPEN SOURCE PLANS!!!!

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VIDBID

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My question refers to how are the coils initially energized if the resonator (generator) contains no magnets, and if no initial input current is being feed to the coils, how do they (the coils) energize so that a magnetic field can build up in the core?

Most metals will pick up alignment with earths north and south poles. Generators without permanent magnets sometimes have to be polarized.

See link below.

Think about Ed Leedskalnin PMH the magnetic flux has to be held in circular path until broken, note that the stator is a type of torus.

how to polarize a generator - Ask.com YouTube Search

Hi ZeroMassInertia,

Good point. Since this resonator (my term for this generator) doesn't have any magnets (according to Tim Thrapp), how are the coils initially energized (or polarized if I'm using the term correctly)?

However, since the coils are resonating, I'm not sure if polarization is apropos if were talking about resonating coils, but I do believe we need an initial AC signal (electrical energy) to get the L1 and L2 coils resonating.

Regards,

VIDBID

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A Friend got a Generator for waterpower. It was a normal Motor without Magents, and when it starts running, it had rest magnetism inside the Iron core.
It did take a while of running until the Generator did deliver the full Power but mainly it magnetizes allways itself with this rest from the core.
Not sure if it works at this Device too, maybe it works faster with this additional power here.

Hi Joit,

Thanks. I think one key difference is we're not just talking about polarizing a generator (which is why I refer to it as a resonator), but getting the L1 and L2 coils to resonate. That's why I think we need some sort of way to accomplish AC signal injection (the so-called unique oscillator circuitry) into the L1 and L2 coils in order to bring them into resonance (in addition to the mechanical action of the rotor of the resonator.)

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VIDBID

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More Digging

In doing some more digging, I found:

WHAT IS THE QEG?

The Quantum Electric Generator system (QEG) is an adaptation of one of Nikola Tesla’s many patented electrical generator / dynamo / alternator designs. The particular patent referenced is No. 390,414, titled Dynamo-Electric Machine, and dated October 2, 1888.

The QEG prototype is scaled to produce electrical power in the range of 10-15 kW (kilowatts) continuously, and can be wired to provide either 120 Volt or 230-240 Volt single phase output. We are also planning future designs to provide 3-phase power.

Service life of the device is limited only by certain replaceable components, such as bearings, v-belts, and capacitors. The basic machine should operate trouble-free (with minimal maintenance) for as long as any good quality electro-mechanical appliance, such as a quality washing machine or refrigerator. Heavy-duty mechanical components are used throughout for reliability.

The QEG is not a complicated device, as it is designed (like Tesla’s other ‘discoveries’), to work in harmony with natural laws, rather than with the power-wasting symmetric motor and generator designs used in today’s mainstream industry.

An effective way to understand the operating principle of the QEG is to think of it as a high-powered,self-resonant oscillator (what used to be called a ‘multivibrator’), adapted to transform high-voltage pulses (15 to 25kV) into line voltage AC output, at current levels up to 120A. In today’s alternative energy terminology, it would be a type of resonance machine.

The circuitry that develops high power in this device is really based on an existing but under-utilized power oscillator configuration, however, the ‘quantum’ part of the design has to do with how the generator is started. Conventional alternators (AC generators) usually have a device called an ‘exciter coil’. This coil is usually a smaller, separate rotor winding that provides an AC voltage that is rectified and used to power the generator’s field coil(s).

In the QEG, there is no internal common exciter coil. In addition, to look at the circuit diagram, it is not apparent where the input power comes from to start resonance, and this is key; the QEG exciter coil is external to the generator, and the excitation signal is conducted through the quantum field (zero point) into the generator core, to start oscillation. Once the machine builds up to the resonant frequency, it powers itself (is self-running).

James M. Robitaille
Engineering Artist for the QEG
Fix the World Council
February 10, 2014

FIX THE WORLD (FTW)
Quantum Energy Generator (QEG)
NEW PARADIGM DISTRIBUTION GUIDELINES

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Source: http://hopegirl2012.files.wordpress....guidelines.pdf

So, I'm trying to figure out what this means:

In the QEG, there is no internal common exciter coil. In addition, to look at the circuit diagram, it is not apparent where the input power comes from to start resonance, and this is key; the QEG exciter coil is external to the generator, and the excitation signal is conducted through the quantum field (zero point) into the generator core, to start oscillation.

Apparent or not, an input power is needed to start resonance.

This just raises more questions.

No doubt. The schematic shows an external exciter (tank) circuit.

But where does the power come from to start resonance?

It's not apparent.

So why not just build a circuit to supply the start power to L1 and L2 ?

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VIDBID

PS: Reference: https://www.google.com/patents/US390...ed=0CDUQ6AEwAA

[EMCSQ]

As already explained :rest magnetism
H.P.Torres explained , you could also connect a voltage to the coil parallel to the cap.
And the tank circuit will amplify this to the limits.

I wonder, there should be many motors , which consist of 4-pole stators, only for a basic setup for getting resonance.
The windings should be between the stator poles , not on the poles themselves.
And the rotor should consist of a laminated iron bar.
The two coils of the resonant circuit are wound opposite; look at the dots.
Eventually we must rewind one of them.
If turning the rotor does not result in an huge voltage for a given rpm, we could stop there , because requirements not met.
So looking for that pre-built 4-pole stator ... any ideas?