Analysis of the WITTS Generator

[OrionLightShip]

blast from the past

Dr. Timothy Thrapp?
Sir Timothy Thrapp?

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post94378

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post243041

[radar]

witts generator has capacitors in output

Capacitors of witts generator videos seem to be on the output. Totally 12 capacitors, six in parallel and two in series. Resonant coils seem to have a capacitor and/or something else in a blue box below output switch close to the generator. If resonant coil frequency is 400 Hz the capacitor needs to be only 6 nf 25 kV. Very small compared to QEG capacitors.

Witts generator in video is made by thinner wire than QEG. Wire cross section is obviously enough for 2,5 kW at 120V but higher power levels must use higher voltage. The world might use some real help from SirT.

QEG schematics may be wrong and dangerous. Original witts generator does not store so great energy in resonant coil.

[Stephen Brown]

Capacitors of witts generator videos seem to be on the output. Totally 12 capacitors, six in parallel and two in series. Resonant coils seem to have a capacitor and/or something else in a blue box below output switch close to the generator. If resonant coil frequency is 400 Hz the capacitor needs to be only 6 nf 25 kV. Very small compared to QEG capacitors.

Witts generator in video is made by thinner wire than QEG. Wire cross section is obviously enough for 2,5 kW at 120V but higher power levels must use higher voltage. The world might use some real help from SirT.

QEG schematics may be wrong and dangerous. Original witts generator does not store so great energy in resonant coil.

Hi Radar,
Are you speaking from personal experience or speculating.
If it is from personal experience; Please continue.....

[vidbid]

Capacitors of witts generator videos seem to be on the output. Totally 12 capacitors, six in parallel and two in series. Resonant coils seem to have a capacitor and/or something else in a blue box below output switch close to the generator. If resonant coil frequency is 400 Hz the capacitor needs to be only 6 nf 25 kV. Very small compared to QEG capacitors.

Witts generator in video is made by thinner wire than QEG. Wire cross section is obviously enough for 2,5 kW at 120V but higher power levels must use higher voltage. The world might use some real help from SirT.

QEG schematics may be wrong and dangerous. Original witts generator does not store so great energy in resonant coil.

Thrapp indicated that the side coils are the vibrating coils in the following video: Self Running 40kW 40,000 Watt Fuelless Generator Full Video - YouTube

According to FTW terminology, they would be the primary coils.

According the the FTW QEG schematic, the series capacitor bank is connected to the primary coils.

I assume that the same configuration exists with the WITTS QEG.

As far as I can tell there is no evidence from either Thrapp or Robitaille to support the existence of capacitors connected to the secondary coils, or what Thrapp refers to as output coils. However, there is an exception to that, Robitaille's design does have a high voltage tank circuit called an exciter in series with the output, but Robitaille indicated that it was only to conditions the core and then after that the exciter could be removed.

Regards,

VIDBID

[OrionLightShip]

extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof

Witts Ministries claims responsibility for most if not all of our modern technologies going back two hundred years or the days since Michael Faraday.

WITTS did it all!

They only need 300 dim WITTS, I mean generous god fearing donors to be able to build the 40 kw generators and put them in peoples homes. Of course they could just release all pertinent information and the everyone that has a brain would be donating to the cause. Nope, they only need 300. So pray and see if you are one of the special 300. Do it now, the world can't wait. Please jump on this opportunity now and help SirT save humanity.

[Berg]

Witts Ministries claims responsibility for most if not all of our modern technologies going back two hundred years or the days since Michael Faraday.

WITTS did it all!

They only need 300 dim WITTS, I mean generous god fearing donors to be able to build the 40 kw generators and put them in peoples homes. Of course they could just release all pertinent information and the everyone that has a brain would be donating to the cause. Nope, they only need 300. So pray and see if you are one of the special 300. Do it now, the world can't wait. Please jump on this opportunity now and help SirT save humanity.

They're not the only ones who made wild claims.

Al Gored claimed to have created the internet.

Inventing the Internet - YouTube (at time index 0:49)




Not sure if you should make a donation or not?

My advice is that you should keep your money if you're not sure.

Just because somebody asks you for some money, it doesn't mean you have to stop thinking and hand it over.

If you want to give somebody some money, then that's fine. Isn't it yours to do with as you want?

If you want to keep your money, that's fine, too.

The thing is it's none of our business what anybody does with his or her money.

Berg

[OrionLightShip]

The thing is it's none of our business what anybody does with his or her money.

Berg

I respectfully disagree Berg. I believe it is everyone's responsibility to challenge the validity of claims before a hopeful, gullible person buys into false claims.

You have a valid opinion, but of what value if people are robbed of their life savings and nothing comes from it?

You would just stay quiet and let people be conned out of their money because it is none of your business what they do?

I'm not saying that WITTS and QEG people are frauds. I'm saying all reasonable attempts at revealing facts (including parody) should be made.

I'm saying there has been a lot of frauds in this field and people should be informed.

It is my opinion that they are taking advantage of well-meaning, good people and eventually these devices will be proven to be "not real". Just my opinion and nothing more.

It is my opinion that these people are making statements that are so ridiculous that any sane rational person would run backwards to avoid them and yet for some reason, they are still being considered as serious.

I'm fresh out of opinions and further discussion is pointless. don't even know why I ventured back here. Perhaps this time I will be honored by a good old fashioned IP banning because I am not allowed opinions here. One can only hope.

I can only hope that if these devices are proven to be frauds, the full weight of the law will fall on the perpetrators.

As for Al Gore....he has been exposed as lying about a good many things. It took people stepping forward and calling him on it so everyone could know.

[Berg]

This is my opinion on the subject: Stupid people have a right to be stupid.

There's an old saying: A fool and his money are soon parted.

We can't always hold people's hands and make sure that they don't make stupid decisions.

It's really not ours to judge their decisions.

They have the right to make their own decisions.

The good thing is it's a choice.

I mean how many billions of our tax dollars are wasted on stupid projects for which we have no choice or no control on how the money is spent?

How many untold billions of dollars have been spent on Tokamak fusion reactor research, for which we have nothing to show?

If some guy wants to give a church a few bucks for free energy research, then I say more power to him. Besides, who are we to tell him he can't do that if he really wants to?

Who knows, in the end, maybe something good will come of it.

Right now, we just don't know.

Berg

[Ben2503]

mandatory volunteers?

Witts Ministries claims responsibility for most if not all of our modern technologies going back two hundred years or the days since Michael Faraday.

WITTS did it all!

They only need 300 dim WITTS, I mean generous god fearing donors to be able to build the 40 kw generators and put them in peoples homes. Of course they could just release all pertinent information and the everyone that has a brain would be donating to the cause. Nope, they only need 300. So pray and see if you are one of the special 300. Do it now, the world can't wait. Please jump on this opportunity now and help SirT save humanity.

I find the WITTS / Thrapp videos quite convincing but I am a bit puzzled about the following:

If I owned such a great machine, I would install it in my basement and hook it up to the electrical installation in my house, using a power meter. Next I would have it run for 24 / 7, to reduce my electricity bill as much as possible. Make a video of the set-up, the power meter that is running back-wards and post that.
So I wonder, why are these demo's always about prototypes, installed in shed, lofts and what have you?

If I was asked to independently verify one of these machines, I would at least measure and record: voltage, amps, frequency and cos(phi) of the output and input; DC power to the drive motor;voltages across the inductors and capacitors, RPM's. Make scope shots of input and output wave forms..
I would make these measurements during start-up and under various load conditions.

For proper prototype testing I would also measure noise and vibration levels; the temperatures of the coils, core, the prime mover and electronics and increase the load until the machine stops or fails.
I would like to know how this machine would respond to a short-circuit or a sudden loss of load.

It seems to me this machine is generating energy and therefore most likely not stable when in a loop-back configuration. So what does the control system look like?

With a report like that and a good working prototype, you will be able to raise the all funds you need to bring this to the market. WITTS can get a patent, turn this into a commercial product and with the profits do 'generous god fearing donations' to help the world.

I think 'donations' are supposed to be voluntarily and based on what someone could spare. In some African countries the average wages are less than these $300 a month. Asking a minimum 'donation' is in my view, just trying to sell something without VAT.

[vidbid]

I find the WITTS / Thrapp videos quite convincing but I am a bit puzzled about the following:

If I owned such a great machine, I would install it in my basement and hook it up to the electrical installation in my house, using a power meter. Next I would have it run for 24 / 7, to reduce my electricity bill as much as possible. Make a video of the set-up, the power meter that is running back-wards and post that.
So I wonder, why are these demo's always about prototypes, installed in shed, lofts and what have you?

If I was asked to independently verify one of these machines, I would at least measure and record: voltage, amps, frequency and cos(phi) of the output and input; DC power to the drive motor;voltages across the inductors and capacitors, RPM's. Make scope shots of input and output wave forms..
I would make these measurements during start-up and under various load conditions.

For proper prototype testing I would also measure noise and vibration levels; the temperatures of the coils, core, the prime mover and electronics and increase the load until the machine stops or fails.
I would like to know how this machine would respond to a short-circuit or a sudden loss of load.

It seems to me this machine is generating energy and therefore most likely not stable when in a loop-back configuration. So what does the control system look like?

With a report like that and a good working prototype, you will be able to raise the all funds you need to bring this to the market. WITTS can get a patent, turn this into a commercial product and with the profits do 'generous god fearing donations' to help the world.

I think 'donations' are supposed to be voluntarily and based on what someone could spare. In some African countries the average wages are less than these $300 a month. Asking a minimum 'donation' is in my view, just trying to sell something without VAT.

I don't know if the QEG works or not, but if it does, then our options could really open up.

If I owned a QEG that generated 10 kW of free energy, I wouldn't need to be hooked up to the grid anymore.

As for selling power to the grid, I heard of a report in the news of a woman who purchased solar panels, thinking that the utility company was going to pay her so much money for the power she produced; however, they found a loop hole in the law and refused to pay her anything. So much for her plan to sell power to the grid.

The utilities don't want your power. They don't want to pay you. They want your money, not your power.

They want to keep their money, as much of it as they can.

If I owned a QEG that generated 10 kW of free energy, I could be living out in the middle of nowhere, far away from the grid, so in that case, I would be free of the grid.

I wouldn't need gasoline for my car; instead, I could purchase an electric vehicle and use a QEG to power it.

Who knows why WITTS Ministries does the things it does? In the current climate that we find ourselves in, if I owned a free energy device, I certainly wouldn't be telling anyone that I owned one.

As for WITTS Ministries getting a patent, if the QEG is based on old Tesla technology as some people claim it is, then WITTS Ministries would be unable to obtain a patent. Besides, even if they could get a patent, do you think we would ever get to see it? How many patents have been classified under the invention secrecy act? The other situation might be that WITTS Ministries might not be able to obtain a patent under 35 U.S.C. 181 which relates to the secrecy of certain inventions and the withholding of patents.

As for donations being voluntary, of course, donations are voluntary; otherwise, they wouldn't be donations. It seems to me that what WITTS Ministries is saying to donors is, "If you make a donation to me, I'll make a donation to you."

As for the Value Added Tax, we already have too many taxes as it stands now, and we certainly don't need any more taxes. In fact, what we need is fewer taxes or no taxes.

Regards,

VIDBID

[moflint]

I just listened to the discussion about safety (lightning strikes, plasma discharges etc.) on #191 UE on Vimeo - interesting - they seem to have experience alright.

[vidbid]

I just listened to the discussion about safety (lightning strikes, plasma discharges etc.) on #191 UE on Vimeo - interesting - they seem to have experience alright.

Thanks for that update. I missed the broadcast Wednesday.

Regards,

VIDBID

[Ben2503]

This is my opinion on the subject: Stupid people have a right to be stupid.

Berg

Weak people have the right to be weak, so let's beat the *** out of them.
Survival of the fittest, applies to both physical as well as mental fitness

I prefer a community that protects and takes care.

[Ben2503]

I don't know if the QEG works or not, but if it does, then our options could really open up.

If I owned a QEG that generated 10 kW of free energy, I wouldn't need to be hooked up to the grid anymore.

As for selling power to the grid, I heard of a report in the news of a woman who purchased solar panels, thinking that the utility company was going to pay her so much money for the power she produced; however, they found a loop hole in the law and refused to pay her anything. So much for her plan to sell power to the grid.

The utilities don't want your power. They don't want to pay you. They want your money, not your power.

They want to keep their money, as much of it as they can.

If I owned a QEG that generated 10 kW of free energy, I could be living out in the middle of nowhere, far away from the grid, so in that case, I would be free of the grid.

I wouldn't need gasoline for my car; instead, I could purchase an electric vehicle and use a QEG to power it.

Who knows why WITTS Ministries does the things it does? In the current climate that we find ourselves in, if I owned a free energy device, I certainly wouldn't be telling anyone that I owned one.

As for WITTS Ministries getting a patent, if the QEG is based on old Tesla technology as some people claim it is, then WITTS Ministries would be unable to obtain a patent. Besides, even if they could get a patent, do you think we would ever get to see it? How many patents have been classified under the invention secrecy act? The other situation might be that WITTS Ministries might not be able to obtain a patent under 35 U.S.C. 181 which relates to the secrecy of certain inventions and the withholding of patents.

As for donations being voluntary, of course, donations are voluntary; otherwise, they wouldn't be donations. It seems to me that what WITTS Ministries is saying to donors is, "If you make a donation to me, I'll make a donation to you."

As for the Value Added Tax, we already have too many taxes as it stands now, and we certainly don't need any more taxes. In fact, what we need is fewer taxes or no taxes.

Regards,

VIDBID

You're totally missing my point.
It is all about proper testing, ways to make progress and taking away doubts.
Best regards,
Ben

[vidbid]

Weak people have the right to be weak, so let's beat the *** out of them.
Survival of the fittest, applies to both physical as well as mental fitness
I prefer a community that protects and takes care.

I prefer a society that allows its members to freely think and act for themselves.

Just because some people are stupid or weak, that doesn't give you, me or anybody else the right to abuse them or take advantage of them.

We can choose to act as civilized human beings, instead of like animals at the top of the food chain.

But we can't always protect people who should know better but instead choose to act stupidly.

I'm not one in favor of a nanny state.

I think people should be allowed to make up their own minds and also to be allowed to make decisions for themselves.

Regards,

VIDBID