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The moment that the UK QEG first achieved resonance, an astounding feat since according to the scientific establishment there should not be any power generated since there are no magnets employed in this system
Reactive power simply means voltage and current are not in phase, and of course the resistor is a device that reacts to the application of a potential (volts), and converts energy into dissipative heat or so called real power, and this device forces a 0o phase angle.
Reactive power is a consequence of energy stored - be it electrostatically in a capacitor or magnetically in an inductor, and it is the interplay of this stored energy between these devices which causes voltage and current to be out of phase, often 90o out of phase.
Thousands of volts on the resonant does not mean a large amount of energy exists. If you calculate the energy in the QEG resonant tank at 5000Vrms (~7000V peak), this comes out as only about 10 Joules, depending on the L & C values used in the circuit. Peak energy on the capacitor occurs at peak voltage, while peak energy in the inductor occurs at peak current. In other words, all that voltage on the capacitor yields energy E = 0.5*C*Vpk2, and it is a mere pittance, and likewise shifting 90o in time, when that energy has been transferred to the inductor, the same energy appears as an inductive current, where energy E = 0.5*L*Ipk2 pertains. Peak capacitor voltage occurs at zero inductor current and peak inductor current occurs at zero voltage. The same pittance of energy flows back and forth between the two devices at the resonant frequency rate. That miniscule energy sloshes back and forth between the two storage devices, causing voltage build up on the capacitor and current buildup on the inductor, with the two 90o apart in sinusoidal time units with respect to their peak energy storage points.
The question is how is conversion of a mere 10 Joules of energy in the resonant tank going to be significant at all? Well I do not see how it can be, so I must concur with Herm, and there is much more to this QEG device than the energy stored with the resonant tank circuit. A 14,000 volt reactive voltage in the presence of a 1 Amp reactive current does not mean it represents much energy at all. At best this energy serves merely as a gating mechanism to open the gate for energy to flow. I also do not see this as a reactive conversion process, but rather as a flow control process, much like a low power gate on a MOSFET device controls a high power channel. That output energy is coming from a different source, and not from the resonant tank's 10 Joule reservoir. You suck that 10 Joule energy out over 1 second and you only have 10 Watts (i.e. 10 Joules/sec).
The Transverter is an interesting device, but I believe it has been improperly named, since rather than a conversion process, it is likely a gate control process is in play here, not a conversion process. I do not see any need for energy from the universal reservoir to be converted to usable form - it is already in required form - and requires only a low energy gate control mechanism to release it, or cause it to flow. Everybody already knows my thoughts concerning transformer operation - there is no conversion process involved, in fact there is not even a transfer through the transformer across the transformer barrier from i/p to o/p, and indeed the power never even sees the primary side of the transformer. Only another low level mechanism controls a flux response on the primary side - the o/p power itself never ever saw the input side. It appears as if power originated at the i/p and was transferred to the o/p, but if that was the case then over unity would be impossible, as evidenced by that diabolical 2-coil transformer device. Appearances are causing confusion between arrival of o/p power and a reaction appearing in the i/p side, leading everybody to think the primary is more than a mere low energy gate control mechanism.
For all these reason I am not comfortable with the concept of a conversion process, and neither do I believe the transverter converts energy at all. At best it merely opens a gate to the primordial Dirac Sea. Run the resonant tank energy calculation yourself and see if it is not as miniscule as I claim it to be.
The notion that there exists a device that will shift phase angle and thereby exact thousands of watts, may very well be true, but I would be most surprised if this turned out to be a conversion of reactive power into real power. It may appear as such, but in reality a different mechanism is likely at work here.
Herm you have fired up a hornets nest - I leave it to you to swap those hornets.
I don't understand all the concern over reactive power in this device. Who cares! You put the output through a bridge rectifier and a big cap, measure the DC power across a load and you're done. The only power that matters is that which can do work.
Are there any REAL power out/power in measurements? Or is it all conveniently calculated with reactive power measurements to continue to get funding?
Dave, to answer your questions: NO and "In my opinion, YES".
I was recently in a group. I left because it was full of HOPEGIRL "HOPEFULS". No one of substance and standing. Then I found out that a Mr. Jalapeno, was involved and was purported to be a " respected and trusted engineer."
He refused communication with me after I pointed out that the engineering report with his name on it showed only great under unity characteristics and was being used my hopegirl, apparently, to raise another 20,000.00 These reports were supposed to keep coming our way (open source) and I asked that they connect a resistive load and measure the output. I saw that James had 1800 watt heater element and was "thinking" about hooking that up. I asked that that be done when they said they needed a "proper load". I said, "why can't you just hook up more light bulbs? Since thats what you are already using as a "proper load".
The groups owner and Mr. Jalapeno did not want any further suggestions and wished me well hoping I would leave them alone. I said that I would and I have.
The latest video posted above in Orlando shows either intentional misdirection or is just someone ignorant of reactive systems. This is of course only my opinion and feel free to submit your own. First video scope is hooked to reactive front end....fair enough. Second video scope is hooked across output powering a resistive load which forces the phase angle to zero.... sorry no magic there.... happens every second in your own home.
I would love to see this QEG or anything work for that matter. I hope I'm wrong but this thing stinks from day zero, which actually began years and years ago. But by all means believe and put your money in it and you shall receive all that you deserve.
I don't understand all the concern over reactive power in this device. Who cares! You put the output through a bridge rectifier and a big cap, measure the DC power across a load and you're done. The only power that matters is that which can do work.
Exactly right. I have been following the QEG builds around the world. Every QEG is Under-Unity. No QEG is Over-Unity. Not one. The Laws of Thermodynamics, Physics and Electronics have not been violated by the QEG. The QEG is really just a VRG, a Variable Reluctance Generator, that has been in use for 100 years. And they are very inefficient. The wheels are about to come off this scam by HopeGirl of FTW.
VidBid,
The QEG is scam. There is no "Over-Unity". The QEG does not provide any excess energy. In fact, it costs money to run the QEG. The motor that powers the QEG can not ever be unplugged from the ac wall outlet. The Power Output from the QEG is LESS THAN the power the motor consumes from your ac wall outlet. Therefore the QEG is a SCAM.
Reactive power simply means voltage and current are not in phase, and of course the resistor is a device that reacts to the application of a potential (volts), and converts energy into dissipative heat or so called real power, and this device forces a 0o phase angle.
Reactive power is a consequence of energy stored - be it electrostatically in a capacitor or magnetically in an inductor, and it is the interplay of this stored energy between these devices which causes voltage and current to be out of phase, often 90o out of phase.
Thousands of volts on the resonant does not mean a large amount of energy exists. If you calculate the energy in the QEG resonant tank at 5000Vrms (~7000V peak), this comes out as only about 10 Joules, depending on the L & C values used in the circuit. Peak energy on the capacitor occurs at peak voltage, while peak energy in the inductor occurs at peak current. In other words, all that voltage on the capacitor yields energy E = 0.5*C*Vpk2, and it is a mere pittance, and likewise shifting 90o in time, when that energy has been transferred to the inductor, the same energy appears as an inductive current, where energy E = 0.5*L*Ipk2 pertains. Peak capacitor voltage occurs at zero inductor current and peak inductor current occurs at zero voltage. The same pittance of energy flows back and forth between the two devices at the resonant frequency rate. That miniscule energy sloshes back and forth between the two storage devices, causing voltage build up on the capacitor and current buildup on the inductor, with the two 90o apart in sinusoidal time units with respect to their peak energy storage points.
The question is how is conversion of a mere 10 Joules of energy in the resonant tank going to be significant at all? Well I do not see how it can be, so I must concur with Herm, and there is much more to this QEG device than the energy stored with the resonant tank circuit. A 14,000 volt reactive voltage in the presence of a 1 Amp reactive current does not mean it represents much energy at all. At best this energy serves merely as a gating mechanism to open the gate for energy to flow. I also do not see this as a reactive conversion process, but rather as a flow control process, much like a low power gate on a MOSFET device controls a high power channel. That output energy is coming from a different source, and not from the resonant tank's 10 Joule reservoir. You suck that 10 Joule energy out over 1 second and you only have 10 Watts (i.e. 10 Joules/sec).
The Transverter is an interesting device, but I believe it has been improperly named, since rather than a conversion process, it is likely a gate control process is in play here, not a conversion process. I do not see any need for energy from the universal reservoir to be converted to usable form - it is already in required form - and requires only a low energy gate control mechanism to release it, or cause it to flow. Everybody already knows my thoughts concerning transformer operation - there is no conversion process involved, in fact there is not even a transfer through the transformer across the transformer barrier from i/p to o/p, and indeed the power never even sees the primary side of the transformer. Only another low level mechanism controls a flux response on the primary side - the o/p power itself never ever saw the input side. It appears as if power originated at the i/p and was transferred to the o/p, but if that was the case then over unity would be impossible, as evidenced by that diabolical 2-coil transformer device. Appearances are causing confusion between arrival of o/p power and a reaction appearing in the i/p side, leading everybody to think the primary is more than a mere low energy gate control mechanism.
For all these reason I am not comfortable with the concept of a conversion process, and neither do I believe the transverter converts energy at all. At best it merely opens a gate to the primordial Dirac Sea. Run the resonant tank energy calculation yourself and see if it is not as miniscule as I claim it to be.
The notion that there exists a device that will shift phase angle and thereby exact thousands of watts, may very well be true, but I would be most surprised if this turned out to be a conversion of reactive power into real power. It may appear as such, but in reality a different mechanism is likely at work here.
Herm you have fired up a hornets nest - I leave it to you to swap those hornets.
Cheers Cliff
Reactive Power is useless and irrelevant. Only the Real Power output can be used by humans. The Real Power Output by the QEG is only 17% of the Input Power. The QEG is severely Under-Unity. The QEG is "bad joke" to collect donations by FTW.
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