Vidbid Generator

[Ufopolitics]

@Ufopolitics,

What if we use a disk made out of another material than copper?

Thinking out load here..............

Maybe a material that has a much higher internal resistance like metalized plastic? You know the anti static plastic type used to protect electronic.

Just a thought.......

@Woopy,

You should try some sort of slip rings on your test setup. Put one end
of your coil to the metal of your rotor, the other end can maybe go to
a insulated needle brush contact at the front of your rotor coil.

GL.

Hello Groundloop,

Yes, that is exactly another issue...the Material used on the Coils-Discs...Faraday said all it needs to be is but an electrical conductor...nothing else....He wrote clearly that "Iron was NOT required..."

Copper, Aluminum are Paramagnetic Materials, (another Faraday Classification) meaning, they both will offer a huge drag against a magnetic field just by "looking at it"......So, they are absolutely NOT GOOD...but we kept using it...in all our electrodynamic machines...

I have done some very promising testing with Carbon Fiber...not at all a ferro magnetic material...and of course not Paramagnetic either...

And of course other Geometries...


Regards


Ufopolitics

[woopy]

Hi all

Hi Peter

Thanks for very usefull info, because i am totally in the idea that nothing extaordinary will surge from our conventional knowledge .
So the idea that a radial stress effect from a rotating mass on the surrounding space , mixed with the axial magnetic field stress could be a way to tap in the "waiting" energy all arround us .

Thanks for that

Now i have finished the experiment to comply fully with Vidbid proposal, and i connected the end wire of the magnetic toroid to 2 slip rings.

But no light on the LED and even with my scope set at 20 mv nothing at all ... flat line on the scope almost as a short cut.

So no good news for tonight, but tomorrow is an other day

good luck at all

laurent

[artoj]

A Working Unit

Hi UFO
I think my wording was not right, I refer only to the designs that I have shown and built, it is not a theoretical build it is a practical reality. I do not refer to Homopolar/Unipolar machines in general, they definitely need to be looked at and worked both imagination and practice, this is why I have made my work available to this forum thread. Vidbid has shown a design that I have already worked and revealed its basic force/magnetic/electrical vector relationship. I agree whole heartedly on a full scale attack on the theoretical notions of modern text books, I have been working/designing and building electronic apparatus for 50 years and still I am not convinced that electrons are a primary reality but rather a secondary effect of Aether interactions. The homopolar design is one of those ideas that can overturn the Einstein brain crack that everybody is addicted to. Regards Arto.

[vidbid]

SCOGEN Shared Commutated Output Generator

Laurent - Thanks for experimenting.

I wonder if anybody ever tried this implementation.



Regards,

Vidbid

[artoj]

Thats Interesting

Hi Vidbid
That looks like a promising design, excellent idea!!
Regards arto

[vidbid]

@ Arto

Thanks

In your diagram below, how does the South face of one magnet stay connected to the South face of the other magnet?

I assume they are glued into place.



I'm wondering if the two magnets were separated by a distance of a few inches, how could the current bridge the gap between the two outer rims of the two magnets? Could a copper cylinder be placed over two separated magnets to carry the current from one to the other?



Regards,

Vidbid

[vidbid]

SMIGEN Signal Modulated Input Generator

Perhaps, an AC output from a Sunburst Generator could be produced this way?



Regards,

Vidbid

[vidbid]

Orientations

This is based on Arto's diagram.



Regards,

Vidbid

[Peter Lindemann]

Thank You!!

Hi all

Hi Peter

Thanks for very useful info, because i am totally in the idea that nothing extraordinary will surge from our conventional knowledge .
So the idea that a radial stress effect from a rotating mass on the surrounding space , mixed with the axial magnetic field stress could be a way to tap in the "waiting" energy all around us .

Thanks for that

Now i have finished the experiment to comply fully with Vidbid proposal, and i connected the end wire of the magnetic toroid to 2 slip rings.

But no light on the LED and even with my scope set at 20 mv nothing at all ... flat line on the scope almost as a short cut.

So no good news for tonight, but tomorrow is an other day

good luck at all

laurent

Dear Laurent,

Thank you for running the complete experiment. Real, experimental results are NEVER BAD NEWS!!! When the experiment does not do what we hope it will, it is simply Nature informing us that our "mental model of reality" is not the same as the "real model of reality" that Nature operates on. There is only GOOD NEWS and the LEARNING that can come from it.

The idea of "BAD NEWS" is a purely emotional reaction to the gathering of facts. When you place the importance on the disappointment, rather than the facts gathered, it ceases to be physics and becomes psychology.

Thank you, again, for making the effort to physically embody VIDBID's idea and letting us all know the results.

VIDBID,

Your idea of the slip commutator output of a standard N Machine to a transformer step-up should work, but it still has the problem of the perimeter brush, which at high speed rotation presents significant mechanical issues. This is why Michael Knox and I developed the direct AC N Machine with two shaft brushes. It allowed voltage step-up and low brush speeds.

If you want to understand more about what DePalma discovered, it is best to read his papers. I have a small collection of his most important ones at my website at: Free Energy | Bruce DePalma

With regard to this thread, I recommend everyone read at least this paper called "The Secret of the Faraday Disc" http://www.free-energy.ws/pdf/secret...raday_disc.pdf

Best regards, to all,
Peter

[vidbid]

Dear Laurent,

Thank you for running the complete experiment. Real, experimental results are NEVER BAD NEWS!!! When the experiment does not do what we hope it will, it is simply Nature informing us that our "mental model of reality" is not the same as the "real model of reality" that Nature operates on. There is only GOOD NEWS and the LEARNING that can come from it.

The idea of "BAD NEWS" is a purely emotional reaction to the gathering of facts. When you place the importance on the disappointment, rather than the facts gathered, it ceases to be physics and becomes psychology.

Thank you, again, for making the effort to physically embody VIDBID's idea and letting us all know the results.

VIDBID,

Your idea of the slip commutator output of a standard N Machine to a transformer step-up should work, but it still has the problem of the perimeter brush, which at high speed rotation presents significant mechanical issues. This is why Michael Knox and I developed the direct AC N Machine with two shaft brushes. It allowed voltage step-up and low brush speeds.

If you want to understand more about what DePalma discovered, it is best to read his papers. I have a small collection of his most important ones at my website at: Free Energy | Bruce DePalma

With regard to this thread, I recommend everyone read at least this paper called "The Secret of the Faraday Disc" http://www.free-energy.ws/pdf/secret...raday_disc.pdf

Best regards, to all,
Peter

Bravo! Peter,

And kudos to Laurent for his efforts! We need more men like him, who are willing to experiment and share their results with their fellow men.

I believe that theory needs experimental feedback when possible.

And thanks to you, Peter, for your contribution to this field of knowledge and for assembling your collection and your willingness to openly share it with us.

From what you indicated, I believe that if I knew more about it, I could confidently say that yours and Michael Knox's direct AC N Machine constitutes a truly remarkable technological development in the field of homopolar generators.

Kindest regards,

Vidbid

[vidbid]

It would seem to me that if the two opposing magnets are too close to one another, that their respect fluxes could be inducing an additional counter current in the opposite disc.



Regards,

Vidbid

[Peter Lindemann]

More Info....

Hey VIDBID and everyone,

Here is another link to the advanced N Machine built and patented by Adam Trombly. The DOD put a "National Security" gag order on Trombly for filing the patent, but eventually, DePalma found a copy of it from the European Patent Office and published it, effectively lifting the Security Lid.

Enjoy: A. Trombly & D. Kahn: Homopolar Generator

Best regards,
Peter

[Peter Lindemann]

Tewari's Machine

It would seem to me that if the two opposing magnets are too close to one another, that their respect fluxes could be inducing an additional counter current in the opposite disc.



Regards,

Vidbid

VIDBID,

The drawing here is the machine that Tewari built and tested. Surprisingly, it exhibits conventional drag. If you read "The Secret of the Faraday Disc" paper, the reason becomes clear. "Currents" produced by a single disc machine are apparently "sourced" at the perimeter and the center of the disc, and do NOT actually flow through the disc to produce drag. When two discs are series connected, the drag free current from the first disc is forced through the second disc to produce drag, and the drag free current from the second disc is also forced through the first disc to produce drag there. Hence, the benefit of two discs producing drag free current is completely negated.

More later,
Peter

[vidbid]

Well, there you have it.

Regards,

Vidbid

[vidbid]

Hey VIDBID and everyone,

Here is another link to the advanced N Machine built and patented by Adam Trombly. The DOD put a "National Security" gag order on Trombly for filing the patent, but eventually, DePalma found a copy of it from the European Patent Office and published it, effectively lifting the Security Lid.

Enjoy: A. Trombly & D. Kahn: Homopolar Generator

Best regards,
Peter

Thanks, Peter!

Patent #WO82/02126

I hope I'm not breaking any gag order by posting a link to it.

US1981001588 CLOSED PATH HOMOPOLAR MACHINE

Download PDF: http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/d...3.pdf?download

Regards,

Vidbid