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  • Parallel Wound Coil???

    Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
    The pnp switches would need to be paralleled to accommodate the amount of power being dumped.
    A heavy winding 10 guage
    A paralleled wound coil
    Oh I see. This is something new for me, I never would have guessed any of this. Okay let's start again, you posted my energizer and added a special dump circuit, gotcha. I missed what you were doing at first and now I am still not so sure what that might do. hum... very interesting my main man very interesting.

    Can it be put to animation?

    you see in the past I used a neg dump and now you are using pos, right?

    Wait I am not sure what end is up here you got me there.

    What does that new add-on do actually? Is that a pos dump or both?

    Thanks Dave for blowing my beany copter off , this stuff really fries my brain lovin it.

    I see a half bridge there and normally I use a full bridge

    It kind of reminds me of a push pull circuit I seen somewhere.

    This is the berries I got to ponder this one. Is that a buck converter?

    Mike
    Last edited by BroMikey; 08-20-2014, 08:31 AM.

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    • Generator Mode

      This is how I connect my energizers most of the time even with a cap dump pumping up capacitors is much faster for only a small amount more power.



      Sometimes I think if I had a big enough energizer mode one might charge cap faster than Genmode does. All I know is Gen Mode is hooked up the same as a joule thief and my new setup is using 3 transistors for each of the four power coils at 14awg.

      Mike

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      • Yea Mike its a buck converter.
        Your circuit inspired me, I was trying to think of a way to run the first stage at a higher frequency than the second to really charge the cap for a big discharge, Your circuit came to mind, instead of changing the frequency just parallel coils in the first stage = bigger bang in the discharge, second stage

        The coil, its a directional coil, can be wound cw or ccw, easy to add layers or remove layers for tuning, lower resistance = faster rise and fall time, quick response.

        Your energizer circuit is a suped up boost converter your hitting the battery's with high pos energy, the mod allows you to hit the bats with a high neg pulse. Is this what the bat needs? dont really know.

        Tesla was into discharging capacitors into a coil and thats essentially what we are doing in the second stage.

        The key to free energy lies in the working principle of the buck and boost converter.
        Hit a coil with pos pulse and get a neg kickback
        = collection of aether
        Hit a coil with neg pulse and get a pos kickback

        Ion generators collect pos ions around the neg electrode and neg ions around the pos electrode = separation of aether into its pos and neg polarity's, ready for collection.
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        • Great Buck Add on

          Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
          Yea Mike its a buck converter.

          Totally awesome, I thought you were sneaking in another Kool buck circuit. Even though I am no good at designing yet I can still spot them


          Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
          Your circuit inspired me,

          She ain't my circuit but thanks 4 the pat on the back. The circuit is a JOHN BEDINI SG Osc circuit off of a patent that was modified by Laserhacker and Patrick. Bless Pat's heart he spent time showing the slow learners like me how to get off the couch with his youtube videos, couldn't have done it without him.



          Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
          I was trying to think of a way to run the first stage at a higher frequency than the second to really charge the cap for a big discharge, Your circuit came to mind, instead of changing the frequency just parallel coils in the first stage = bigger bang in the discharge, second stage

          Yeah yer my main man I am in flynn. This is the part where the standing ovation goes AND where I ask a million questions about them there coils and what they do. Seems like we'ed bee filling up those coils like filling up a tank of water. Then send it all to the cap bank. still I gotta think it over a bunch more so I can make up my mind what to do.

          Like said coils would raise the voltage say 5000 turns of number 10awg? Naw that can't be right maybe 25 turns hummm... I don't know where start.



          Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
          The coil, its a directional coil,

          Bi-directional coil? humm does that mean no diode? I think it means no diode forcing the power in only one direction, no?




          Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
          can be wound cw or ccw, easy to add layers or remove layers for tuning, lower resistance = faster rise and fall time, quick response.

          Your energizer circuit is a suped up boost converter your hitting the battery's with high pos energy, the mod allows you to hit the bats with a high neg pulse.

          Humm sounds like I need to start with 500 turns and start backwards but I don't know. Bedini's patent shows about 30-40 feet for his tube oscillator coil.



          Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
          Is this what the bat needs? dont really know.

          Well now that is a very important question to ask. Options my main man options. You see if I go directly to the battery I only use mode one which is the normal SG OSC. This mode is the very first circuit that I have posted of the Solid State School Girl oscillator. This provides voltage spikes of radiant energy that if left unattended will smash the battery plates into pieces.

          That brings us to GENERATOR MODE as posted where the coils boost but deliver current pulses to the battery, THAT IS WHAT A BATTERY NEEDS.

          Great question. Next we need to take a look at some other ways of operating the SSSG boost converter.

          If we stay in mode one or voltage spiking mode that ruins batteries in the long run, we can instead sent the voltage to a capacitor bank and this radiant spike is said to teach the capacitors to charge themselves.

          Or we could say this in another way, we could say that the capacitor voltages climb right up even after they are disconnected from the power.

          We could also say that radiant pulses in the form of spikes filling up capacitors
          will re-gauge the energy and protect the battery. Also the conditioning of capacitors using radiant is good for capacitors.

          The capacitors are said to charge quicker after being conditioned with the spike so you can see where we are going here. We want options my number one man options.

          So what should we say then about GENERATOR MODE? That is warm current pulses, okay? Well let's say this, after the conditioning of the battery or the capacitor bank GENMODE is turned on.

          This Genmode drives up capacitors with warm current pulses even faster for only a small amount more input power.

          The entire procedure above is followed off and on depending on the state of the capacitors or the state/condition of the battery.

          What we SHOULD do in the end is replace the battery and the capacitor bank with a good sized SUPERCAP and do a looper winding to get a continuously running circuit that keeps getting higher voltage on the cap.

          Lasersaber has done that with an LED getting his circuit to run for half an hour using only a 50ua drain from the capacitor while running 1 or 2 LEDS full bright.


          Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
          Tesla was into discharging capacitors into a coil and thats essentially what we are doing in the second stage.

          The key to free energy lies in the working principle of the buck and boost converter.
          Hit a coil with pos pulse and get a neg kickback
          = collection of aether
          Hit a coil with neg pulse and get a pos kickback

          Ion generators collect pos ions around the neg electrode and neg ions around the pos electrode = separation of aether into its pos and neg polarity's, ready for collection.
          humm.. what can I say that is a lot of good stuff to ponder Dave thanks A Million.

          Mike
          Last edited by BroMikey; 08-21-2014, 05:30 AM.

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          • Your question about the diode got me thinking.
            The diode is there to control the input more than for the kickback.

            As you can see in this boost converter animation the npn transistor delivers a neg pulse to the coil, the diode's orientation will not allow neg energy to flow into the load but does allow pos energy to hit the load.

            I have an idea to eliminate the diode ---- pressed for time right now will get back to ya.
            Half of the Answer is knowing the right Question

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            • I have an idea to eliminate the diode ---- pressed for time right now will get back to ya.
              Sometimes when it hits paper it makes no sense




              Was thinking of recharging the drive battery's, one winding could be rerouted to charge the bats or any number of windings depending on energy needed.
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              • If you notice in the mod I made to your circuit I added a resistor to dampen the pull on the bat when the magnetic field collapses.
                I was pondering the resistor and realized a switch would be better, it breaks the connection to the power supply on collapse.

                If both switches worked at the same time it would break the connection.
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                • Oh its on now, this would cause the coils to suck from the ambient through the open ended bifilar's.
                  Last edited by Dave45; 08-22-2014, 11:41 AM.
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                  • Drawing from the ambient and not the power supply.
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                    • Better time that right. Make sure to turn the first NPN on First the second on second then shut the second one off then the first one. Or you'll get nothing. The resistor in the front will only cost you. Use the resistor after the second transistor. ".1 ohms" stall the current and only fills the inductor. Other wise you just make a bunch of heat.

                      Matt

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                      • Hey Matt good to hear from ya.
                        Is this what you meant.
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                        • Yes I would like to thank you also Matthew for stepping in when needed.

                          @Dave I can't always visualize the switch in place of the transistor because I need more practice doing that so i have included the Mod you made and put the resistor where I think Matthew said to put it.

                          Of course the notation about switch timing is awesome and that is a powerful thought.

                          So I am doing my best guess like this because I am use to looking at my circuit more than any other. I hope to catch up some day here it is



                          As you commented Dave that this resistor was added to my circuit diagram.

                          Thanks so much gentlemen this is one change I can wrap my head around.

                          Mikey
                          Last edited by BroMikey; 08-23-2014, 07:58 AM.

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                          • We still want to collect pos and neg bemf.
                            Anything you can do on the pos rail can be done on the neg rail.
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                            • Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
                              Hey Matt good to hear from ya.
                              Is this what you meant.
                              No after the second transistor. SO Positive source, NPN, Coil, NPN, Resistor, Source ground.

                              Matt

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                              • This is the reasoning behind the circuit.
                                Edited text in the image.
                                Last edited by Dave45; 08-23-2014, 12:57 PM.
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