Cap Dump Circuit

[Dave45]

Just when I think I have taken the circuit as far as it will go another possibility emerges.

[BroMikey]

Mod2




Okay this is where the resistor was suggested to be put

Matthew Wrote:

No after the second transistor. SO Positive source, NPN, Coil, NPN, Resistor, Source ground.

Matt

[BroMikey]

Resistor

This is the reasoning behind the circuit.
Edited text in the image.

@Dave

Yes I understand your essay of the expanding and collapsing fields however where the resistor is placed in the BEAST OSC diagram would require ALL power ALL to travel through it to the first capacitor as well as the second and battery.

I am not sure if you wanted that resistor to change the first stage operation as well as the secondary stage or stages. At present we are looking at heat build up at the resistor and this may seem small yet my circuit uses three parallel Mosfet's per a single 14awg strand of solid copper magnet wire.

Using this as boost converter at elevated power levels by comparison of the first runs I had made. The 14awg can handle 14 amps and 10-12 amps all day long without heat production.

So I will be at around 8 amps per leg on the four separate channels for a 35 amp Max ceiling @ 60vdc to charge capacitors in the bank, instead of funneling everything through this large wirewound resistor.

(.1) Ohm is suggested as a possible entry point always leaving room for tuning but I am not real sure if the PNP could handle all of that power. Of course I would need another bank of 12 Mosfet's of the PNP type to handle the power generated by the boost converter.

So this is looking more like the BEDINI energy pump without the coils and Aether gathering open ended coils. There are big differences yes but using the NPN and PNP is my focus on hardware.

Mike

[Dave45]

@Dave

Yes I understand your essay of the expanding and collapsing fields however where the resistor is placed in the BEAST OSC diagram would require ALL power ALL to travel through it to the first capacitor as well as the second and battery.
Yes in the fourth stage we are trying to limit the neg to the coil this way when the magnetic field in that coil collapses it will pull from the ambent rather than the drive battery, but a switch would work better.

I am not sure if you wanted that resistor to change the first stage operation as well as the secondary stage or stages. At present we are looking at heat build up at the resistor and this may seem small yet my circuit uses three parallel Mosfet's per a single 14awg strand of solid copper magnet wire.
Yes heat and loss, another reason for the switch.
I know your circuit is moving alot of power and not a good candidate to experiment with, I used your circuit as an example to boost power without using two different frequency's.
Your circuit would be indicative of a final build after the perimeters were explored.

Using this as boost converter at elevated power levels by comparison of the first runs I had made. The 14awg can handle 14 amps and 10-12 amps all day long without heat production.

So I will be at around 8 amps per leg on the four separate channels for a 35 amp Max ceiling @ 60vdc to charge capacitors in the bank, instead of funneling everything through this large wirewound resistor.
Thats too much power for an experimental circuit unless your Tesla not me I chicken that reminds me every good shop needs a chicken stick

(.1) Ohm is suggested as a possible entry point always leaving room for tuning but I am not real sure if the PNP could handle all of that power. Of course I would need another bank of 12 Mosfet's of the PNP type to handle the power generated by the boost converter.
Yes

So this is looking more like the BEDINI energy pump without the coils and Aether gathering open ended coils. There are big differences yes but using the NPN and PNP is my focus on hardware.


Mike

[BroMikey]

Fourth Stage?

@Dave

Yes I understand your essay of the expanding and collapsing fields however where the resistor is placed in the BEAST OSC diagram would require ALL power ALL to travel through it to the first capacitor as well as the second and battery.
Yes in the fourth stage we are trying to limit the neg to the coil this way when the magnetic field in that coil collapses it will pull from the ambent rather than the drive battery, but a switch would work better.

Hi Dave

If you want only the fourth power circuit limited then the resistor should go at the emitter leg of the fourth transistor but the way you have this placed, all four channels are limited by that resistor and she is going to throw some major heat.

Keep thinking it through so you can move forward with these designs. I can't do much yet so I am not going to be much help making them. Maybe in a few years I will.

So the idea as I understand it is that you want to use the resistor to toggle between switches? Why not use another small coil to trigger so that not conflicts occur?

Was that the plan? Make both switches open and close opposite each other without microprocessors?

I see your description of what you say the reason why but this is unclear to me. It is better if I ask what the goals are, such as the resistor.

Keep up the great designs. All of these circuits will need to be perfected after they hit the breadboard.

Mike

[Dave45]

Hey Mike
Mark E and I were discussing the circuit on another forum and I ran across an unexpected reaction.
Mark seen it but I had to drudge through to find it, Im kindof hard headed I have to see it for myself to believe
Anyway Im still pluggen along been really busy with work but I will get around to building it soon but Im going to start with the basic circuit and build from there.

[BroMikey]

I guess so

Hey Mike
Mark E and I were discussing the circuit on another forum and I ran across an unexpected reaction.
Mark seen it but I had to drudge through to find it, Im kindof hard headed I have to see it for myself to believe
Anyway Im still pluggen along been really busy with work but I will get around to building it soon but Im going to start with the basic circuit and build from there.

Hi Dave

I guess you are really to busy right now because I have no idea what you are and not building. So far I have something like close to a 50 circuits that are all mostly boost/buck design.

It is a shame that I never got an answer on the beast Osc Mod so I could try it, instead 5 other circuits have since been posted with no end in sight or any rhyme or reason.

I am lost. You are designing stuff and way past my limited abilities.

Maybe this winter you will get time, it's only a few weeks away

It's just another batch of circuit trials to run through the grinder, let me know how they come out.

Mike

[Dave45]

Yea got carried away, back to basics

[BroMikey]

Yea got carried away, back to basics

Hey Dave

At the end of those last coils you could put plates and call it an air ozonation air purifier.

Great way to remind me of pos/neg IONS.

Mike

[Dave45]

Yea got carried away, back to basics

But I did learn on my journey, both sides of the coil get hit when the transistor turns on, but found a way to suppress that.
As usual a picture is worth a thousand words.

[BroMikey]

New understanding

But I did learn on my journey, both sides of the coil get hit when the transistor turns on, but found a way to suppress that.
As usual a picture is worth a thousand words.

Hi Dave

It seems like what you must be saying is that normally speaking each of us opening and closing the switch have not been making a very good unidirectional impulse on account of simple circuit actions.

Improving the one direction switching is the next step.

Tesla said to make an impulse in one direction, not both, all at the same time.

So what it looks like you are learning is a way to stop the batteries from being hit on both sides at once so as to gain a more pure one direction pulse.

With all of the resistors put in the line to do that will waste power but maybe it will still be worth it?

This is all I can get out of your last post since I already know you are following experiments to produce results that most circuits are unable to make.

So did you see a good effect from it?

Mike

[Dave45]

Mark on the other forum made an observation both circuits are boost converters, and after consideration I concluded he was right one is a neg boost converter and one is a pos boost converter.

Im like you resistors waste energy but in this instance are necessary.
When pos and neg meet energy is released mostly as heat, if the two meet at the coil heat is produced in the coil and the coil reacts in both directions.
But if a resistor is placed on one side and the resistor has more resistance than the coil the two will meet at the resistor, only one polarity is hitting the coil, only one reaction from the coil.

Let look at the pos boost converter
The cap next to the bat is loaded up 12v neg on one side and 12v pos on the other when the switch closes the polarity's see a route to each other and move through the circuit to join.
If there is no resistor the polarity's both hit the coil but if there is resistance on one side that polarity is slowed and only one polarity hits the coil.

Electricity is the separation of charges pos and neg, they seek neutrality and to be neutral they must join. opposites attract

[Dave45]

Static Electricity explain control eliminate remove Electrostatics Inc

If the material being neutralized is charged positive, it will immediately absorb negative ions from the static neutralizer and repel the positive ions. When the material becomes neutralized, there is no longer electrostatic attraction and the material will cease to absorb ions. Conversely, if the material being neutralized is charged negative, it will absorb the positive ions being generated by the neutralizer and repel the negative ions. Again, once neutralization is accomplished, the material will no longer attract ions. See figure below.

[Dave45]

DC spark gap

[BroMikey]

4 boost circuits

Great diagrams.

This one is a quad-Boost could run it up to 100-200v at say 5 amps I think but to get the extra into that open coil I thing running at 1 amp may be best.

Or is that a buck/boost? I see PNP and NPN.

What would be the best device to use in the load?

Should it be a high voltage load? Like an electric motor?

Wait I do see very small spark gaps. What would they do if I used a motor in the load? What would the spark gaps do? Or what effect does a spark gap have other than to throw off sparks?

Don't spark gaps oscillate? Are those gaps oscillators?

Mike