E=mc^2

[Hrothgar]

I think we are missing a dimension

It seems to me we think space is 3 dimensional however, In terms of energy our existence is on the top of a pond. and the expansion of the universe is equivalent to stress on the surface tension of that pond. It's conceivable that "spooky reactions", parts of magnetism and some other phenomenon may lie in this area

[indio007]

It really irritates me that action at a distance i.e. instantaneous force, solves the quantum non-locality problem AND a plethora of relativistic problems. They would rather believe "effect before cause" and bendable space/time.

[Allcanadian]

@Ben2503

Robert Distinti is making some great videos on this. Please check https://www.youtube.com/user/rdistinti/featured

Well I watched video 1 and I like what he is saying, Induction = Gravity and inertia. That is the exact same conclusion I had come to a while back. I had browsed the Distini website a year or so ago but I think I may have to watch the video series.
Thanks for the link.

AC

[BroMikey]

Great Video

@Ben2503


Well I watched video 1 and I like what he is saying, Induction = Gravity and inertia. That is the exact same conclusion I had come to a while back. I had browsed the Distini website a year or so ago but I think I may have to watch the video series.
Thanks for the link.

AC

Hi Allcanadian

Thanks yes this is so true that we are being taught to be retards in gov/schools.

Mike

[wayne.ct]

Are you a moron?

Hey. I did not mean you or anyone else on this site is a moron. If you are here and are making your contribution to this website forum, you are not a moron. I believe that because you have to be able to think if you put something out here. I just want to challenge you to think for yourself and realize that maybe, just maybe, someone may use a word in a way that you don't understand. For example, some people use the word "energy" in a way that does not match up with the way most people use the word. To me that means that I have to know what each person means when they use a word. Does everyone remember the scene in Alice in Wonderland? Some people realized they use a particular word in a special way. And, other people don't realize that a person may be using a word in a special way.

Standard physics uses energy to describe a quantity that can be stored, transferred and dissipated. I would say that most people on this forum are not limited by that definition. If you don't keep track of who is speaking and exactly what they mean when they use the word, you are practically guaranteed to be confused. So, reader, beware. If you don't want to do the hard work to keep everything straight, then you just have to accept that you are going to be confused from time to time.

That doesn't make you a moron. It just means you have other things to occupy your mind. I'm glad to see the different ideas.

[Allcanadian]

hello Mike

Thanks yes this is so true that we are being taught to be retards in gov/schools.

I watched a few more video's from the Distinti site and must say I am impressed. Distinti has followed the same path I have and it highlights the sheer number of contradictions and paradoxes in conventional theory.

As he mentions and as I have also found our conventional theories seem to have been thrown together in some kind of ad hoc fashion without proper consideration.

I went snowboarding with my 10 year old son yesterday and on the chair lift we discussed the sheeple factor. How the natural state for the general population is to follow without question and never ask the important questions. I told him never to feel he has to follow anyone or believe anything only that he justify his own thoughts.

I also find it odd how many people believe "science" is some sort of inclusive discipline or profession when it is simply the consideration of natural phenomena. For me it has always been an integral part of my life and not something I would consider separate from it. There is not a moment that passes when I am not thinking of the how and why of how nature works as I am an integral part of it. It is as if most everyone has created their own imaginary world separate from nature and the real world which exists all around them... very strange.

AC

[indio007]

I like how Distinti highlights the 2/Pi (90 degree) phase lag in his analysis of Maxwell's (actually Heaviside's vector transformation)

I think it's quite the coincidence that Wheatstone measured the speed of the static field at 2/Pi times C.

This seems to indicate that the magnetic field is a sort of ether drag effect.

[ckurtz]

1. Potential Energy is the aether - thing
2. Energy is the dissipation of organized aether or work - activity

William Lyne, Occult Ether Physics: "If the term "energy" is only a convenient abstraction, then it does not exist in physical form, and really describes the potential to perform work as a by-product of matter and electromagnetic radiation in perpetual motion, some of the force of which has been diverted through a path where it performs the desired work, as it goes on its merry way through the universe. Every change of form of either matter or radiation involves the "work" which induces the change, or the "work" which is induced by the change. Without work there is no change, but all work is ultimately the product of the universe in perpetual, self-sustaining motion, as a rule and not an exception."

It's been awhile since I originally looked at this so am not sure if Lyne is speaking in regards to Tesla's theory, his own views, or both. Was wondering how close your views are to what he wrote.

While acknowledging it is helpful to consider the nature of energy from this perspective I have reservations about what is essentially simply a substitution of the somewhat restricted term work, which really carries a lot of baggage with it, for the term energy, which may be somewhat ephemeral but is still holistic. I think the biggest challenge I have toward accepting the work view is the image I get of this _vast_ cataloging data base needed if each mass unit doesn't itself carry the energy imparted to it. If energy is somehow separated from matter how does the system keep track of all the virtual potential values and the particles associated with them? This bookkeeping requirement is about as mind boggling as it can get. I might not be able to actually envision a seething mass of even a cubic centimeter of air but at least I can conceptualize how those billions upon billions of interactions among all those air molecules can transpire if each and every body of mass acts as a self registering counter for the energy or the energy potential interacting with it.

[ckurtz]

...the real issue of what is between them.

Am not sure why there is any issue with 'space' between particles of ponderable or so called imponderable bodies, especially since empty space seems to be not only in evidence but a basic requirement for our universe's existence. After all energy is expressed through movement and if there is no space to allow for movement then the static incompressible aether concept seems doomed to death from terminal constipation, or at least that's my medical opinion...

[Ben2503]

HI AC.
I am glad you like the videos. For me it was an eye opener with respect to many aspects of the 'modern physics'. What surprises me that even a non-conformist like Robert Distinti will not subscribe to the possibility of 'over unity'.
My common-sense tells met that if energy cannot be created, we wouldn't exist at all. In my view the first law of thermodynamics is a violation of the first law of being (if it is not created it doesn't exist).

I went snowboarding with my 10 year old son yesterday and on the chair lift we discussed the sheeple factor. How the natural state for the general population is to follow without question and never ask the important questions. I told him never to feel he has to follow anyone or believe anything only that he justify his own thoughts.


AC

This is exactly why I feel we should not ban persons from a discussion (or forum) because of different views. 'hear hear' sayers are in my view just as useless as nay-sayers. We need fresh new ideas or revisit old ideas with an open mind.

I taught my kids the same (or at least tried to) and I see now that their independent, non-conformist attitude is not always helping them in their day-to-day struggles. Especially at schools this is not appreciated, in primary school the kids didn't appreciate it. In college and high school most of the teachers don't like this.

take care.
Ben

[Allcanadian]

@ckurtz

Am not sure why there is any issue with 'space' between particles of ponderable or so called imponderable bodies, especially since empty space seems to be not only in evidence but a basic requirement for our universe's existence.

I like to think of it this way, there are billions of particles whizzing through every space including matter and we know all the spaces we consider empty are full of Electromagnetic waves so where is this "empty space". I like to ask this question and I have yet to have anyone name any space that would be considered empty.

After all energy is expressed through movement and if there is no space to allow for movement then the static incompressible aether concept seems doomed to death from terminal constipation, or at least that's my medical opinion.

It depends on one's perspective I guess, if I move a charge it produces a changing magnetic field which may produce a force which acts on other stationary charges. However if every charge was already in motion with a changing magnetic field then only stationary charges would feel a force acting upon them. Now if the Aether is dynamic then an accelerating charge may actually become more stationary in a relative sense and feel an opposing force.

Opposite yet equal and given the history of science to consistently get the wrong answer initially and the fact we cannot name even one single thing in nature that does not change over time I'm going to take a wild guess and say the Aether is Dynamic.

AC

[Aaron]

bots

Hey Aaron

yeah get him gone, I remember that guy and he never responds.

Mike

He doesn't respond to things that challenge his statements.

He did however log back in under a different name to say something to me like, "At least your smart enough to admit that gravity is caused by the aether being displaced by mass" or something like that.

Well, that statement has been in one of my books since about 2006 but he makes it look like I learned it from him.

I deleted that post because it was him and everyone can see from that Google search that he is worse than commerical spammers for drugs, shoes, video games, etc...

[BroMikey]

The Killer Instinct

He doesn't respond to things that challenge his statements.

He did however log back in under a different name to say something to me like, "At least your smart enough to admit that gravity is caused by the aether being displaced by mass" or something like that.

Well, that statement has been in one of my books since about 2006 but he makes it look like I learned it from him.

I deleted that post because it was him and everyone can see from that Google search that he is worse than commerical spammers for drugs, shoes, video games, etc...

Hello Aaron

The Killer Instinct is a wonderful thing to have and while we are not going to suggest the application of this term in the physical the idea holds true for removing entities who are out for your juggler.

I won't pet a rat

Nice work Aaron keep uncovering those disruptive groups. I hated that guys way of running over me and everyone else.

He thinks he is just the cutest little fun boy on earth for twisting everything all around in his favor. We both saw right through him in 5 minutes because he is easy to spot for us.

Mike

[Aaron]

mpc755

In my opinion mpc755 gives an alternative solution for the double slit experiment. We should all welcome this viewpoint and review it, rather than ban the messenger.

To me his idea makes perfect sense. Anyone who has ever been in a subway station has felt the air flowing (pressure wave) into the station just before the train (particle) arrives. Perhaps a better example is the jet fighter that breaks the sound barrier.

I feel the bast way forward in science is the free exchange of ideas and not muting the critics, as the present mainstreamers are doing.

Best regards
Ben

Ben, you really don't know what you're asking for. He is not a critic - he will flood this thread with so many posts that it becomes useless.

I'm very much for for new ideas but he is a copy and paster. He won't give real conversation. He will find an article and then copy and paste it and will repeat it over and over and will destroy any possible chance of real communication.

Just like Bro Mikey said he remembers him - well, he did that in the other forum and many other sites all over the internet and I'm not going to let him sabotage this discussion.

If I was going to "mute a critic" - I would have completely deleted his posts and wouldn't have given you a link that actually goes to countless posts where you can find everything you want to know about him to your hearts content.

[ckurtz]

I like to ask this question and I have yet to have anyone name any space that would be considered empty.

One answer could be that any particular space which at a particular time is not occupied by any mass is empty at that time. Of course I can see how philosophy devotees would prefer that no definition be offered as that takes all the fun out of things. And since my medical based thoughts were offered in the same spirit I certainly don't want to be viewed as a spoil sport so if you wish to use the definition that the term space is inclusive of all spaces at all levels be they aetheric or cosmic or whatever then of course there can be no empty space since even the existence of a single stray proton or fleck of dandruff would contaminate the purity of it all. There is a special circumstance however which might prove to be an exception and therefore upset the whole apple cart. Of course that would be the space between the ears of twentieth century western establishment scientists, which may very well be absolutely empty spaces...