E=mc^2

[Ben2503]

I do not know why it sounds to you like a religion, but it is indeed real religion, and the most dangerous and sinister one: atheistic religion.


Correct, but partially: God was not created. The true meaning of the word "God" is: Absolute Being-One who can not not to be! Descartes said that notion of God is the most certain notion of all, and he was deeply right by saying that! The most profound philosophy (ontology) is simple-not hardly accessible at all, only obscure philosophies are incomprehensible cause the real purpose for inventing twisted philosophy is rather to confuse people then to cast some light in their understanding-insight of the world and his Creator.


Theory of evolution is the most disgusting idea ever, idea that came out as a result of the most sick reasoning which G.K.Chesterton demolished into nothing in the beginning of 20th century, not to mention what has happened with that shame of theory at the end of 20th century:



Well, we are still waiting for your disproof of the undeniable results of Bradford level experiment


In order to get free energy and safer and cleaner world you first have to establish long forgotten morality in this maximally twisted and maximally perverted world, and to do that you have to abolish the slavery and again allow people to freely think and freely speak.

You haven't slightest idea in what kind of world you live in, and that (not having slightest idea about that fact) is how this tragedy of widely spreading and widely spraying utter lies and deceives preserves itself...

The hardest part is to begin to learn how to think independently, and people, at least those who are in quest for free energy, have to finally find enough courage in themself and start to practice independent genuine free thinking. That is the only way how we can establish the basis for better world...

I called it a religion because they have a believe and ban all that think differently.
I have my believes but certainly no religion.

A simple waterlevel seems to 'prove' that the earth is flat, but it isn't.

I have never seen a combination 'genuine free thinking' and religion. I feel that my believes and experiences will make genuine free thinking quite difficult, but I can still be open for alternatives and different ideas.

[cikljamas]

A simple waterlevel seems to 'prove' that the earth is flat, but it isn't.

You are not gonna reveal to us why it isn't? Because NASA say so?

I have never seen a combination 'genuine free thinking' and religion.

Maybe you haven't watched carefully?

But, yes, you are right, genuine free thinking and atheistic religion is impossible combination. Would you like me to quote here one notice regarding this very impossibility? I just have read this today:

Aberration, Continued
In a short paper it is impossible to enumerate those fruitless efforts of three centuries, all trying to establish incontrovertibly the veracity of Galileo's
legendary "Eppur Si muove!". Those interested in particulars will find them sprinkled throughout the extensive literature dealing with the issues involved.(15) For the purpose at hand we may restrict ourselves - as a cursory view of history clearly intimates - to a crucial experiment at the crossroads of classical and relativistic science. To wit, as already mentioned, the test performed in 1871 by Airy, a test more than a century earlier suggested by a forgotten genius, Ruggiero Guiseppe Boscovich (1711 -1787).

Unlike the conclusion of Bradley's invalid ponendo ponens argument, which by affirming affirms, this reasoning in the modus tollendo tollens, the mood which by denying denies, cannot logically be faulted. If P, then also Q, and hence if no Q, then no P. The outcome of the experiment will settle the case unless, of course, we may not like the verdict and therefore refuse to accept it!

For more than a century after Boscovich suggested this verification of the heliocentric theory nobody of any astronomical consequence thought an effort to execute it worth the trouble. Bradley, after all, had only and somewhat superfluously confirmed what on the authority of Copernicus, Kepler and Galileo -- with Newton standing on the shoulders of those giants -- everybody knew to be true. Why bother to lay bare the glaring untruth of Tycho Brahe's nonsensical scheme? As far as this is concerned we may for the ruling consensus from 1726 until today well quote the late (from relativist to anti-relativist converted) Herbert Dingle that "surely no one in his senses would now maintain that the Earth provided a standard of rest for all the light in the Universe.(19)

Yet progress of the sciences during the nineteenth century evoked such a welter of conflicting theories about aethers, spaces, and motions(15) that in 1871 Airy, taking his clue from Boscovich, decided for once and for all to measure that supposed alteration in the amount of stellar aberration by means of a water-filled telescope.

The Verdict of Logic

To the foregoing remarks an epistomological addendum is, sadly, yet in order. In a survey of the theoretical ratiocinations employed by all such classical scientific defenders of the Copernican confession, one aspect stands out for everyone to see: without exception they either use the logically invalid modus ponendo ponens (MPP) to escape from any valid modus tollendo tollens (MTT), or else they take refuge in unverified or unverifiable ad hocs. A short digression may help to make this clear.

Suppose that during a simple optical test I see a green light. I know a green source will produce green radiation. However, if I reject the clear conclusion that the observed phenomenon is caused by a green lamp because I believe only yellow lamps to be possible, then I can adhere to my firm faith by presupposing that somebody is holding a panel of blue glass between me and the light source. The anyway overhasty MPP conclusion that this source is green therefore does not impress me in the least.To my conviction of "yellowness alone" I may with perfect logic still stubbornly cling.

The other way around: forsooth, a yellow lamp will doubtlessly emanate yellow light. But I see a green glow, and therefore its source cannot be yellow. Have no fear - I again postulate the blue glass and in doing that neatly evade the scrape in which a valid MTT threatened to catch me. All jesting apart: those blue-glass ad hocs are, of course, worthless exhibits of wishful thinking.

Evaluating the cogitations of self-professedly unprejudiced science before the tribunal of logic we find this blue-glass trick, time after time, employed in the use of both theoretical syllogisms. For instance: the Boscovich-Airy reasoning is logically impeccable MTT. If P then Q - no Q, then no P. If we are on the move then stellar aberration observed through water will be greater than that observed through air. Therefore in case we do not observe this increase the Earth is at rest and the starry dome is revolving relative to us. But Airy had already decided to know - be it on no experimentally observed sublunar solid and indisputable grounds whatsoever! - that this is not and can not be true. Hence he and his supporters looked around and found applicable rational evidence that obviated the horrendous necessity of siding with the Inquisition in the Galileo trial of 1633. As already shown: an aether drag only demonstrable for water in motion relative to an observer provided the helpful ad hoc. Alas - not at all. That ad hoc is obtained by means of an MPP, an affirmation of the consequent.

Before we can use it we shall have to demonstrate that Fizeau's experiment registered no more than a change in a drag already present in the water travelling with the Earth, for exactly that motion is on trial. True enough: if the Earth is moving through a luminiferous aether, or through a spatiality "at rest", however conceived or defined, and Fresnel's coefficient hits the nail on the head, then water-filled telescopes will not register increased aberration. No increase is observed, and hence we may conclude that Airy's test result is in complete harmony with Newton's vision. Well and good, but for an Earth at rest relative to space (or whatsoever mysterious entity it is in which or through which light travels at the constant velocity c), the Fresnel drag inevitably is reduced to zero and does not affect our measurements of stellar aberration as "explained" by Bradley.

[Ben2503]

You are not gonna reveal to us why it isn't? Because NASA say so?


Maybe you haven't watched carefully?

But, yes, you are right, genuine free thinking and atheistic religion is impossible combination. Would you like me to quote here one notice regarding this very impossibility? I just have read this today:

If you are happy with a flat earth, I am happy for you. I can't convince and you can't convince me. Let's agree we disagree and both go our ways.

[Ben2503]

You are not gonna reveal to us why it isn't? Because NASA say so?


Maybe you haven't watched carefully?

But, yes, you are right, genuine free thinking and atheistic religion is impossible combination. Would you like me to quote here one notice regarding this very impossibility? I just have read this today:

If you are happy with a flat earth, I am happy for you. I can't convince you and you can't convince me. Let's agree we disagree and both go our ways.

[Aaron]

Ben2503 claims Bearden, Lindeman, DePalma, Dollard etc.. produce nothing but theories

Bearden, Lindeman, DePalma, Dollard etc.. produce nothing but theories. My heros are guys like UFOPOLITCS and Woopy and many others that build and test prototypes to check the theories.

You get a F- for research!

Bearden has built the least but still has been involved in real builds. You obviously have never done any research. The people you are insulting with your misinformation are actually some of the most prolific BUILDERS in the world when it comes to these technologies.

This is just one of COUNTLESS builds by Eric Dollard. He built all of this from junk parts and it is on a massive scale demonstrating Tesla & Alexanderson's EXTRALUMINAL TRANSMISSION SYSTEMS - and Eric Dollard has IMPROVED UPON Tesla's electrostatic transmission methods. Just theories?



Advanced Seismic Warning System Chart Recorders, Oscilloscope Displays, Counter, other sensors and a Naval Tactical Communication System built by Eric Dollard at the Landers, California facility. The cables under the window go to the operating system in the next picture.






Eric Dollard supervising the operation of setting up poles to string wire on for the antenna part of the system.



Part of the antenna array used for broadcasting the data
from the Advanced Seismic Warning System to distances
as far as Japan. The antenna array is pointed at the sister
station that used to be in Bolinas, California with the call letters
KPH and the reciprical Landers antenna call letters were
N6KPH designed as a transponder system along the
San Andreas fault.



High Frequency Receiving Array – Log Periodic and Rhombic and overground transmission lines into the field


The system of transmission was adapted to submarine communications in World War II. Dollard's application of this technology to his earthquake warning system described above is the improvement upon Alexanderson. Prior to this advancement, there has never been a broadband system that can pick up earth signals completely free of distortion and interference.


Picture showing a portion of the phasing network adopted



This is the master terminal where all wires over and underground in the 25 acre antenna field terminated.





This is the master terminal for all lines out in the field

This is the back side of the terminal rack in the picture above where all the wires in the field connect. This is all hand built by Eric Dollard with nothing more than scrap electrical parts. This is the lower level of the rack.


This is the upper level of the rack shown in the 2 pictures above.




This is the loudspeaker output of the Earthquake warning system. This allows you to hear the electrical signals inside the earth , in STEREO! Everything here has been hand built by Eric Dollard


The 300 watt broadcast transmitter all hand built with scrap parts by Eric Dollard. This is what broadcast the data from the system through the antennas that sent it to Japan, etc.

High frequency analysis bay and carrier generation equipment.


Master frequency generator for the N6KPH radio broadcast.

Earth Stereo receiver. Pair of Army R3-92’s powered by
Eric Dollard’s Toyota Corolla’s DC station bus.

This one BUILD alone is more than most people's lifetime builds combined and this is just one of Eric's projects. Just theories?

You obviously have never seen the old Borderland videos with Eric's BUILDS, you've never seen his Cosmic Induction Generator work, you've never seen his SELF-RUNNING "fusebox" that keeps it's own batteries charged up that run his prc-47 radio, etc...

Here is a video with a lot of builds Free Energy Research with Eric Dollard, Peter Lindemann and Thomas Brown on Vimeo one is the generator build by Peter Lindemann, another prolific builder - and Eric measured it at 108%. Peter's rotary attractions motors are over 1.0 COP (DESIRED WORKD!). Peter has a whole shop full of experiments that he has BUILT! And Peter and I have built some project together as well.

DePalma has a very prolific builder as well!

Yet “proof of principle” for his invention was apparently provided when a large N machine, dubbed the Sunburst, was built in 1978 in Santa Barbara California. The Sunburst machine was independently tested by Dr. Robert Kincheloe, professor emeritus of electrical engineering at Stanford University. In his 1986 report (presented to the Society for Scientific Exploration, San Francisco, 6/21/86), Kincheloe noted that the drag of the rotating magnetized gyroscope is only 13 to 20 percent of a conventional generator operating at an ideal 100 percent efficiency. The DePalma N machine therefore could produce electricity at around 500 percent efficiency.

Quadra pole N-machine
under test condition in 1995

DePalma's Force Machine that lost 5-7% of it's weight when running, etc... this is a very long list.

Bearden, Lindeman, DePalma, Dollard etc.. produce nothing but theories. My heros are guys like UFOPOLITCS and Woopy and many others that build and test prototypes to check the theories.

You really need to do research next time you find it necessary to insult the very people who helped to lay the foundation for what turned into the modern day "free energy" movement - without them, most people would never had had easy access to all the info they open sourced.

[BroMikey]

Where is the Bouncing Ball????

You get a F- for research!

Bearden has built the least but still has been involved in real builds. You obviously have never done any research. The people you are insulting with your misinformation are actually some of the most prolific BUILDERS in the world when it comes to these technologies.

This is just one of COUNTLESS builds by Eric Dollard. He built all of this from junk parts and it is on a massive scale demonstrating Tesla & Alexanderson's EXTRALUMINAL TRANSMISSION SYSTEMS - and Eric Dollard has IMPROVED UPON Tesla's electrostatic transmission methods. Just theories?



Advanced Seismic Warning System Chart Recorders, Oscilloscope Displays, Counter, other sensors and a Naval Tactical Communication System built by Eric Dollard at the Landers, California facility. The cables under the window go to the operating system in the next picture.






Eric Dollard supervising the operation of setting up poles to string wire on for the antenna part of the system.



Part of the antenna array used for broadcasting the data
from the Advanced Seismic Warning System to distances
as far as Japan. The antenna array is pointed at the sister
station that used to be in Bolinas, California with the call letters
KPH and the reciprical Landers antenna call letters were
N6KPH designed as a transponder system along the
San Andreas fault.



High Frequency Receiving Array – Log Periodic and Rhombic and overground transmission lines into the field


The system of transmission was adapted to submarine communications in World War II. Dollard's application of this technology to his earthquake warning system described above is the improvement upon Alexanderson. Prior to this advancement, there has never been a broadband system that can pick up earth signals completely free of distortion and interference.


Picture showing a portion of the phasing network adopted



This is the master terminal where all wires over and underground in the 25 acre antenna field terminated.





This is the master terminal for all lines out in the field

This is the back side of the terminal rack in the picture above where all the wires in the field connect. This is all hand built by Eric Dollard with nothing more than scrap electrical parts. This is the lower level of the rack.


This is the upper level of the rack shown in the 2 pictures above.




This is the loudspeaker output of the Earthquake warning system. This allows you to hear the electrical signals inside the earth , in STEREO! Everything here has been hand built by Eric Dollard


The 300 watt broadcast transmitter all hand built with scrap parts by Eric Dollard. This is what broadcast the data from the system through the antennas that sent it to Japan, etc.

High frequency analysis bay and carrier generation equipment.


Master frequency generator for the N6KPH radio broadcast.

Earth Stereo receiver. Pair of Army R3-92’s powered by
Eric Dollard’s Toyota Corolla’s DC station bus.

This one BUILD alone is more than most people's lifetime builds combined and this is just one of Eric's projects. Just theories?

You obviously have never seen the old Borderland videos with Eric's BUILDS, you've never seen his Cosmic Induction Generator work, you've never seen his SELF-RUNNING "fusebox" that keeps it's own batteries charged up that run his prc-47 radio, etc...

Here is a video with a lot of builds Free Energy Research with Eric Dollard, Peter Lindemann and Thomas Brown on Vimeo one is the generator build by Peter Lindemann, another prolific builder - and Eric measured it at 108%. Peter's rotary attractions motors are over 1.0 COP (DESIRED WORKD!). Peter has a whole shop full of experiments that he has BUILT! And Peter and I have built some project together as well.

DePalma has a very prolific builder as well!

Yet “proof of principle” for his invention was apparently provided when a large N machine, dubbed the Sunburst, was built in 1978 in Santa Barbara California. The Sunburst machine was independently tested by Dr. Robert Kincheloe, professor emeritus of electrical engineering at Stanford University. In his 1986 report (presented to the Society for Scientific Exploration, San Francisco, 6/21/86), Kincheloe noted that the drag of the rotating magnetized gyroscope is only 13 to 20 percent of a conventional generator operating at an ideal 100 percent efficiency. The DePalma N machine therefore could produce electricity at around 500 percent efficiency.

Quadra pole N-machine
under test condition in 1995

DePalma's Force Machine that lost 5-7% of it's weight when running, etc... this is a very long list.



You really need to do research next time you find it necessary to insult the very people who helped to lay the foundation for what turned into the modern day "free energy" movement - without them, most people would never had had easy access to all the info they open sourced.

Hello Aaron great information

I did not know these details and am glad you posted these builds, although I knew all of these men have had many others.

Isn't strange how when the bouncing ball theories crush these PHD's little noodle that their anger takes over and they start attacking the free energy foundational forerunners.

How obvious does it get?

Eric is moving in leaps and bounds. Great work folks who helped Eric.

Mike

[Hrothgar]

Being long winded has nothing to do with communication being effective - it is whether someone is or isn't clear about what they are saying whether it is long or short. I'm also intentionally redundant. It isn't like I'm trying to use some mysterious phd vocabulary based on some inner circle jargon. I'm using very simple language and very simple concepts and analogies to explain myself. And Bearden's work is not even intended for the laymen or average person, it is intended for the academics - that is who he is writing for.

Youtube is not the venue for long winded. If the video demonstrations where meant to elicit investors and the home interviews to convey a broader understanding then that technocratic vocabulary can actually hinder those efforts.

"if you can't find a way to leverage any of that derived COP to reset the process then your ball merely represents a recounting of a decline added up in increments." - your statement here ignores my point.

Goals, yours is to extend the output, mine is to derive NEW input. Mine requires a sample of electricity into input to catalyze the permanent field into more electricity.

All that lifting work may be useless to you, but that doesn't have anything to do with whether work is being done or not. Just because it doesn't suit your personal desires doesn't change the simple self-evident facts.

Everyone in the world is looking for more "bang for your buck". I'm looking for some more buck by making some bang.

The mass of the ball is traveling a distance through space, that in and of itself is work since there is gravity opposing it. The DESIRED work is always going to be in the eye of the beholder but that doesn't change whether work is being done or not.

agreed

If you have a ball big enough to have passengers... take x joules to push that ball against a spring that is angled at 45 degrees for example, when the ball is released, it will go out at an angle and will repeatedly bounce and then roll until it comes to a stop. If it took x joules to compress the spring, all the impact losses on the ground on each bounce, rolling resistance, etc... will equal the same x joules.

sounds like a fun flight

That is 2 time what we expended - obviously the ground impact losses are not our desired work - DISTANCE is.

Sure, we will go with that

Just like the ball bounced into the air and you say it is useless to you. All the distance traveled by the ball bouncing is the desired work now and Fd work of the travel up and free fall distance beats what we put into compressing the ball against the spring or lifting it up in the air and letting it fall onto a platform angled at 45 degrees. That is a gravity assisted form of transportation - sure, all the passengers will need full body casts after the ride is over lol, but but it doesn't change the fact that all this upward bounce work accomplished something very practical, which is moving from point A to point B.

Insurance folks will be thrilled to hear about it.

The only thing different between you stating that all the upward bounces are useless and the fact that we have an overunity transportation mechanism is simply how you look at it. You can't change the facts about what is going on here simply because the work isn't doing what you want it to do.

It may be true but it still sounds like hype.

Not sure why you would be "put off" by finding out that Bearden's team was already doing what you did later on - maybe changing the perspective that maybe "great minds think alike" might be more useful to you?

The put off is related to the bruised ego from not being first to think of it.

Your comparison of Dollard and Bearden is a bit different that I see it obviously. But with Dollard saying the aether gets polarized, that means the aether can be depolarized and in a depolarized state, it is in fact a state of equilibrium or symmetry - no asymmetrical form to it. Obviously there can be forms that are symmetrical in themselves, but I'm talking about no form into form so even a symmetrical form is still asymmetrical compared to a homogenous aether.

I was referring to the virtual giving the "feel" of having corresponding -/+ vectors. where as the aether gives rise to the picture of a singular circular flow. So parity is a form of order verses a singular flow finding home back into "nothing"

[Ben2503]

You get a F- for research!

Bearden has built the least but still has been involved in real builds. You obviously have never done any research. The people you are insulting with your misinformation are actually some of the most prolific BUILDERS in the world when it comes to these technologies.

This is just one of COUNTLESS builds by Eric Dollard. He built all of this from junk parts and it is on a massive scale demonstrating Tesla & Alexanderson's EXTRALUMINAL TRANSMISSION SYSTEMS - and Eric Dollard has IMPROVED UPON Tesla's electrostatic transmission methods. Just theories?



Advanced Seismic Warning System Chart Recorders, Oscilloscope Displays, Counter, other sensors and a Naval Tactical Communication System built by Eric Dollard at the Landers, California facility. The cables under the window go to the operating system in the next picture.






Eric Dollard supervising the operation of setting up poles to string wire on for the antenna part of the system.



Part of the antenna array used for broadcasting the data
from the Advanced Seismic Warning System to distances
as far as Japan. The antenna array is pointed at the sister
station that used to be in Bolinas, California with the call letters
KPH and the reciprical Landers antenna call letters were
N6KPH designed as a transponder system along the
San Andreas fault.



High Frequency Receiving Array – Log Periodic and Rhombic and overground transmission lines into the field


The system of transmission was adapted to submarine communications in World War II. Dollard's application of this technology to his earthquake warning system described above is the improvement upon Alexanderson. Prior to this advancement, there has never been a broadband system that can pick up earth signals completely free of distortion and interference.


Picture showing a portion of the phasing network adopted



This is the master terminal where all wires over and underground in the 25 acre antenna field terminated.





This is the master terminal for all lines out in the field

This is the back side of the terminal rack in the picture above where all the wires in the field connect. This is all hand built by Eric Dollard with nothing more than scrap electrical parts. This is the lower level of the rack.


This is the upper level of the rack shown in the 2 pictures above.




This is the loudspeaker output of the Earthquake warning system. This allows you to hear the electrical signals inside the earth , in STEREO! Everything here has been hand built by Eric Dollard


The 300 watt broadcast transmitter all hand built with scrap parts by Eric Dollard. This is what broadcast the data from the system through the antennas that sent it to Japan, etc.

High frequency analysis bay and carrier generation equipment.


Master frequency generator for the N6KPH radio broadcast.

Earth Stereo receiver. Pair of Army R3-92’s powered by
Eric Dollard’s Toyota Corolla’s DC station bus.

This one BUILD alone is more than most people's lifetime builds combined and this is just one of Eric's projects. Just theories?

You obviously have never seen the old Borderland videos with Eric's BUILDS, you've never seen his Cosmic Induction Generator work, you've never seen his SELF-RUNNING "fusebox" that keeps it's own batteries charged up that run his prc-47 radio, etc...

Here is a video with a lot of builds Free Energy Research with Eric Dollard, Peter Lindemann and Thomas Brown on Vimeo one is the generator build by Peter Lindemann, another prolific builder - and Eric measured it at 108%. Peter's rotary attractions motors are over 1.0 COP (DESIRED WORKD!). Peter has a whole shop full of experiments that he has BUILT! And Peter and I have built some project together as well.

DePalma has a very prolific builder as well!

Yet “proof of principle” for his invention was apparently provided when a large N machine, dubbed the Sunburst, was built in 1978 in Santa Barbara California. The Sunburst machine was independently tested by Dr. Robert Kincheloe, professor emeritus of electrical engineering at Stanford University. In his 1986 report (presented to the Society for Scientific Exploration, San Francisco, 6/21/86), Kincheloe noted that the drag of the rotating magnetized gyroscope is only 13 to 20 percent of a conventional generator operating at an ideal 100 percent efficiency. The DePalma N machine therefore could produce electricity at around 500 percent efficiency.

Quadra pole N-machine
under test condition in 1995

DePalma's Force Machine that lost 5-7% of it's weight when running, etc... this is a very long list.



You really need to do research next time you find it necessary to insult the very people who helped to lay the foundation for what turned into the modern day "free energy" movement - without them, most people would never had had easy access to all the info they open sourced.

Hi Aaron.
An F for research?
I found all this stuff as well and it were the 'promises' made by these guys that made me join this forum.
I agree with you that Eric Dollard has done some great things, but not things that can be used to reduce our power bills.

What I could not find during my research were:
1. Proper test reports.
2. A place where I could buy one of those machines that would give me the promised free energy.

A good example is the QEG which is now available. To build a machine like that will cost you > $ 3000. It seems wise to me, before making such an investment, to check the machine personally or at least have some proper, independent testing done.

Best regards,
Ben

[cikljamas]

If you are happy with a flat earth, I am happy for you. I can't convince and you can't convince me. Let's agree we disagree and both go our ways.

Considering that these sentences of yours have been written in 21. century we could easily take the content of these sentences as one of the best indirect proofs that Earth is flat. If NASA and co. were/are incapable to present us at least one good-solid proof of Earth's roundness - sphericity then you can be sure something is wrong.

The bare fact that you and i discus earth flatness/roundness in 2014. is more then indicative, don't you think so?

If the Earth were sphere, by now (2014.), it would have been (1 000 000 times and in 1 000 000 different ways) undeniably proven fact so today we wouldn't have any reasonable (sane) reason doubting such a 100 % certain - indisputable fact, would we? Something is certain only if no skepticism can occur!!! And we still have tons and tons of skepticism - today!!!

Not just that, we have tons of (some of them are more then 100 years old) undeniable proofs for Earth's immobility and flatness!!!

Now we can agree we disagree and both go our ways, but at least now you closer to awakening insights about real character of people who are leading us toward certain abyss instead of brighter future.

And now something about "inerrancy" of E=mc^2: A QUESTION OF TIME - The Lorentz Transformation

[Ben2503]

Hello Aaron great information

Isn't strange how when the bouncing ball theories crush these PHD's little noodle that their anger takes over and they start attacking the free energy foundational forerunners.

Mike

The bouncing ball discusion is basically comparing apples with oranges. I think 'work' is a vector with a 'direction' and magnitude which sum up to 0 after 1 cycle. Aaron uses the absolute value of the magnitude and adds them up. In the ideal world this would give a COP of 1/ losses= infinite. Both can be used and are mathematical correct.
It is like discussing wether or not the color orange is a color or the combination of red and yellow.

I don't see the benefit in these kind of discussions, I want to make progress towards a Free energy device. Let's try to make a machine that actually harvests the work as Aaron describes.
I think Tesla has indicated that resonant L-C circuits are the way to go.
Check this simple demonstration https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQdcwDCBoNY

A pity that no actual measurements were taken.

Serial resonance may be used to get rid of the unwanted self-induction or Lenz effects in motors.

One thing is sure, if you don't capture the back-emf with a battery or capacitor, it's gone and you have pay for it again. A capacitor seems to me the best choice.

Take care!!

[Ben2503]

Hans J Zweig

Hello Aaron great information

I did not know these details and am glad you posted these builds, although I knew all of these men have had many others.

Isn't strange how when the bouncing ball theories crush these PHD's little noodle that their anger takes over and they start attacking the free energy foundational forerunners.

How obvious does it get?

Eric is moving in leaps and bounds. Great work folks who helped Eric.

Mike

Considering that these sentences of yours have been written in 21. century we could easily take the content of these sentences as one of the best indirect proofs that Earth is flat. If NASA and co. were/are incapable to present us at least one good-solid proof of Earth's roundness - sphericity then you can be sure something is wrong.

The bare fact that you and i discus earth flatness/roundness in 2014. is more then indicative, don't you think so?

If the Earth were sphere, by now (2014.), it would have been (1 000 000 times and in 1 000 000 different ways) undeniably proven fact so today we wouldn't have any reasonable (sane) reason doubting such a 100 % certain - indisputable fact, would we? Something is certain only if no skepticism can occur!!! And we still have tons and tons of skepticism - today!!!

Not just that, we have tons of (some of them are more then 100 years old) undeniable proofs for Earth's immobility and flatness!!!

Now we can agree we disagree and both go our ways, but at least now you closer to awakening insights about real character of people who are leading us toward certain abyss instead of brighter future.

And now something about "inerrancy" of E=mc^2: A QUESTION OF TIME - The Lorentz Transformation

Thanks for the link. I like these no-nonsense common sense approaches. Hans made very clear that math is just a tool which has to be handled very carefully.

So I think it is probably mathematical right, but in no way explains why the C is the speed limit in the universe or mass and energy are interchangeable.

[BroMikey]

My School Science Class

The bouncing ball discusion is basically comparing apples with oranges. I think 'work' is a vector with a 'direction' and magnitude which sum up to 0 after 1 cycle. Aaron uses the absolute value of the magnitude and adds them up. In the ideal world this would give a COP of 1/ losses= infinite. Both can be used and are mathematical correct.
It is like discussing wether or not the color orange is a color or the combination of red and yellow.

I don't see the benefit in these kind of discussions, I want to make progress towards a Free energy device. Let's try to make a machine that actually harvests the work as Aaron describes.
I think Tesla has indicated that resonant L-C circuits are the way to go.
Check this simple demonstration https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQdcwDCBoNY

A pity that no actual measurements were taken.

Serial resonance may be used to get rid of the unwanted self-induction or Lenz effects in motors.

One thing is sure, if you don't capture the back-emf with a battery or capacitor, it's gone and you have pay for it again. A capacitor seems to me the best choice.

Take care!!

@Ben you take care too

Now listen, I don't trust Gov/run/BS do you grasp that? Higher learning and sparsely populated hair follicle count on the top of one's head does not equate genius.

PHD level University training is entry to the A,B,C's of what is only half truths.

Those who find answers are moved against and large sums of money are spent to silence them if need be. As frustrating as it is, you are going to have to find out all on your own because those who already have it are not going to become the next target.

Now let us go back to the bouncing ball. Simple science as it may be the principles delivered by Aaron need to be addressed. If teachers or those claiming top positions in the real world of science can't counter these simple analogies, what does this say about these leaders?

I will tell you what it says right now and I have had 50yrs to think about it.

It says that they are so indoctrinated by their GOV/Books/strategies/theologies/so that no other outside idea is permitted. That is indoctrination.

Indoctrination is blind madness.

I am speaking to everyone Ben and I am sure you are the nicest I could ever imagine. Let me end by saying that it is okay to address the simple experiment, it is the way to finding answers outside of the "BOX".

What is this "BOX"? This box is a place that the GOV RUN MAFIA threathen people to keep them inside of. Take your vaccines, get your dam shots, you will be arrested if you don't bring your kids to GOV RUN SCHOOLS.

These same people dumb down the school curriculum while they fly UFO's around the world having all of this technology we seek for decades.

These same elites clone human bodies in a matter of weeks to full size grown ups.

We are blind and indoctrinated to think that this does not exist.

We have not even scratched the surface as to what is going on in the Aether yet GOV RUN MAFIA teaches us in so many words that with the quantum Leap that takes 3 live times to understand, we are getting really close to it all.

BS and More BS from GOV RUN MAFIA Schools. The highest Universities in OUR LAND promote Masonry and intimidation is exercised on the preschoolers all of the way up to PHD grad/school.

Now who should I trust?

Answer the simple questions about the bouncing ball and it won't make you any less of a student of the experiment, I will make you at least free to do what you have been programmed against.

Answer Now and break those bonds that someone is watching and you are worried what they will think. This in most cases in the first place intimidation is initiated, peer pressure.

We are all blind by design.

Now I could present a weak retake of Aarons bouncing ball but I think the point is made that we need to go back and read this again instead.

God Bless you Ben.

Mike

[Aaron]

work and regauging

The bouncing ball discusion is basically comparing apples with oranges. I think 'work' is a vector with a 'direction' and magnitude which sum up to 0 after 1 cycle. Aaron uses the absolute value of the magnitude and adds them up. In the ideal world this would give a COP of 1/ losses= infinite. Both can be used and are mathematical correct.
It is like discussing wether or not the color orange is a color or the combination of red and yellow.

Summing vectors has nothing to do with work - that is a common mistake by some honest people and is a popular intentionally false argument made misinformation agents.

Until you allow yourself to to accept the indisputable facts about regauging and its purpose of creating new potential differences from the energy dissipation, you will be the one in fact who is arguing apples and oranges.

Every university, high school, etc... site says the exact same thing. Force being mass x gravity of course.

Calculating Work

Work Equation

The equation to solve work problems looks like this:

work = force x distance or W = F x d

• The SI unit for force is newton (N).

• The SI unit for distance is meter (m).

• The SI unit for work is joule (J).

Now let's look at the steps for calculating work.

If you need some review on calculating one step equations, click on the link below.

» See also: Solving One Step Multiplication Equations Steps for Calculating Work

We will continue to use the same procedure to solve work problems as we have when working other physics problems.

Remember to continue to work in a step by step manner by writing each step out.

Problem: A fork lift moves 34m carrying a 1023N box across the warehouse floor. How much work is done by the fork lift.

Step 1: Write down the equation needed to solve the problem.

W = F x d

Step 2: Insert all known measurements into the equation.

W =

(1023N)(34m)

Step 3: Solve. Carefully enter numbers into your calculator.

W = 34,782 J

The forklift does 34,782J of work.

• Make sure that all of your numbers have the correct SI unit label.
• Always recheck your answers.

The next page will give you some sample problems with the answers.

Sample Work Problem #1

Remember as you solve the following problems to keep following the steps shown on the previous page.

Problem #1:

How much work is done by a person who uses a force of 27.5N to move a grocery buggy 12.3m?

• Equation
  
  W = F x d = (27.5N) (12.3m) = ?
  
  
  • Answer
    
    W = 338.25J
    
    Did you get it correct? Try another one!

[Aaron]

@Ben

Hi Aaron.
An F for research?
I found all this stuff as well and it were the 'promises' made by these guys that made me join this forum.
I agree with you that Eric Dollard has done some great things, but not things that can be used to reduce our power bills.

What I could not find during my research were:
1. Proper test reports.
2. A place where I could buy one of those machines that would give me the promised free energy.

A good example is the QEG which is now available. To build a machine like that will cost you > $ 3000. It seems wise to me, before making such an investment, to check the machine personally or at least have some proper, independent testing done.

Best regards,
Ben

You said:

Originally Posted by Ben2503
"Bearden, Lindeman, DePalma, Dollard etc.. produce nothing but theories."

You made blanket statements about these people that are 100% false. You gave no qualifiers about them not making available something you can buy, etc... You are spinning it. The two you name as your heroes have my admiration for their building experience and willingness to share their work, but neither of them have something for sell that you can purchase to reduce your bills either - therefore, you have a double standard. ALL of them are builders and NONE of them have anything for sale to reduce your power bills. Therefore, you are making a completely false argument.

Actually, Peter and I have things that can reduce your bills, but because they're not what you want, they're not valid in your mind.

Dollard, Lindemann, etc... are not promising to solve your energy problems for you. Perhaps that is what you really wanted to happen as many of us do, but putting the responsibility on others for not having something that you want is not cool.

They have taught much of the science and operating principles and have built countless models that prove the concepts and they have shared this out in the open for free never asking you for anything in return. The responsibility of what happens with this information in your own life is yours - not theirs.

Because of the followings that these people have had over the years and because of the internet in the more modern years, a very profound seed was planted that has wound up producing all kinds of priceless knowledge.

The growth in this field I've seen is that it has become indisputable that there is real science behind these technologies that do what the textbooks say can't be done. Skeptical counter arguments are a dime a dozen are rooted in nothing more than fear and ignorance. The egos can't let go of their paradigms as change is uncomfortable and that is what is defended, not the actual facts - and we can see all kinds of stories made up to explain away why none of this is real.

"Rocket scientist" admits there is work on the falling impact and there is work being done to lift it, but one work is energy dissipation and one isn't. Now we get the arguments about summing vectors when vectors has nothing to do with work done. 100% of every counter argument dances around the actual FACTS.

Free energy is not a technical issue, it is political and psychological.

Again Ben, none of them made you any promises - you took it upon yourself to believe that and chastising them for not having something you can buy while it is ok for the others that you mention that are your heroes, yet they don't have anything for you to buy either - well, your entire argument has double standards and is disingenuous.

[Aaron]

universal principle

Thank you Mike,

There are a lot of mental issues in academics when it comes to understandings that challenge their paradigms.

My friend has an AC electromagnetic that can pick up gold, sliver, aluminum, etc... right off the table. It picks up by electrical attraction and not magnetic attraction. His uncle developed it way back and some others have stumbled upon the same thing - basically eddy current generator into the non ferrous metal of the opposite polarity and it gets drawn to the electromagnet. This field will cause leukemia but point is - it works.

Anyway, my friend showed it to one of his professors when he was getting his degree in physics and although the professor SAW THE DEMO work, he started to scribble some math on the chalk board and tried to convince my friend not to mess with it because IT JUST WON'T WORK!

Just saw it work, yet the professor decided to believe his own pre-conceived ideas instead of the blatant obvious truth staring him in the face with an actual live demo. That is literally a mental insanity that we have to overcome, not figuratively, but literally.

The 2.0 COP example also applies to compressing air.

When we compress air into a tank, the science says that all the work we put into compressing that air got dissipated into heat. Ok, that's fine. That is our input and the compression of air worked against resistance of course and there is the heat - real energy dissipation.

HOWEVER, after the work we did to compress the air is dissipated as heat, we can turn around and connect an air impact drill and put on some lug nuts on a wheel or drill a hole through some wood, etc... and get work out of it.

We expended x joules of work that turned into heat, yet we have all that air left over compressed that can do more work that can be real dissipative work as explained above. All that heat + work the compressed air gave is over 1.0 COP so very common tasks like compressing air and the energy dissipation by the mechanical use of the compressed air is more than we expended to compress the air to begin with.

This exact concept is so universal throughout our world its crazy. Overunity processes happening all the time but most people are too blinded by the lies to recognize it. Obviously the heat from compressing the air is not the desired work we want, but it still demonstrates the basic natural truth that we did really dissipate energy to compress the air and we get real dissipated energy when we power tools with the air.

Denial of "overunity" processes are simply rooted in ignorance. Obviously, not all overunity claims are valid but the concept of overunity is more than a possibility, it is mandatory.

When we "charge" a battery - we have x joules of dissipated energy. That is some real heat and chemical charge happening. When we put the battery to a light bulb, we get real energy dissipation. So total work done is up to twice what we expended to charge the battery. Both are absolutely energy dissipating events. The intended work here is to just light the bulb. The dissipation of energy went into creating a dipole. We already got out of it what we put in and that is a charged battery. We received real dissipated energy for our input. Everything we put in is completely gone never to be seen again. The battery didn't get filled up with anything, it is a dipole that breaks the symmetry of the aether. We connect a light bulb, new polarized source potential from the aether moves to the terminals, over the wire and the bulb is lit - we get real dissipated energy all over again from the new dipole. Total work done is over and above what we put in. The work done to charge the battery itself didn't supply the light, but the point is that the sequence of events are always the same.

That is why there is no transforming of energy from one form to another and conservation of energy is a complete farce.

1. We dissipate energy to create a dipole. 2. Dipole is potential difference allowing new potential to come from the aether. 3. The new polarized aether comes in and does work.

That work may or may not be dissipated in a way that creates a new dipole. If it does not, we have up to 2.0 COP. If it does, we can have way more.

There is no way a conventional disciple of the mainstream scientific religion can ever dispute the facts that twice as much energy dissipation happened compared to what we expended. It is an indisputable fact that can be proven by actual experimental empirical evidence, can be proven with math, common sense, etc... the only thing that backs the arguments against it is rhetoric and word games.

It is overunity when we account for all work done. It is not overunity if the work we count is only our desired work of lighting the bulb, which will be under 1.0 COP. But in both cases, up to 200% work was absolutely accomplished compared to our own input to charge the battery. What work is practical or desired is in the eye of the beholder, but it can never be denied that more work is done compared to what we put in.

We even saw an admission by a conventionally trained scientist that the ball going up is work and the impact is work but used language games to define what is dissipative energy work or not - again while admitting both are work.

Not trying to talk about him as if he isn't here because I'm still waiting for my answer as to the negative 900 joules that manifest, according to his lift being negative and fall being positive, by expending 100 joules to lift a ball, we get 100 joules in impact work, so again, 900 joules (negative - according to him) of all the lifting work of the ball - we're at a negative 900 joules.

Anyway, admitting both the lift and impact on drop are work is actually more than I almost ever get from a conventional skeptic, which was a huge surprise actually. It is so blatant it can't be denied, but then a new definition of what is energy dissipation was created on the fly to simply discard all the excess work as if it wasn't there.

The principle here is universal and the model I've been sharing is able to consistently show these actions over and over in every single system whether it is mechanical, electromagnetic, heat, etc...

But on the conventional side of things, the only over 1.0 COP systems are basically heat systems, but don't you dare suggest the same principles can happen in any other system or you'll be burned at the stake.

We've always been labeled as the crackpots but it should be more than self evident by now that the real crackpots are those who are denying what is in front of our face while performing their illusions with magic wands and minus signs.