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  • Originally posted by xmemphis View Post

    I just saw vidbid images about the commutator switches of newman's motor. Its kind of different from what I've done. My commutator was just functioning as polarity switches. But to see a segment that shorting the stator coil, accidently, without knowing, I also have replicate that kind of rotor in another past motor build. (I will share it later on)

    Sorry, my bad. vidbid says shorting the stator.... not rotor..

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    • Newman's Commutator

      Originally posted by xmemphis View Post
      Sorry, my bad. vidbid says shorting the stator.... not rotor..
      Guys, take a closer look at Newman's commutator. It's rather complicated.


      Page 68 of 338



      Page 71 of 338


      Images are taken from Newman's book:


      Newman's Book: 338 Pages
      Code:
      http://www.free-energy-info.tuks.nl/Newman.pdf
      Suggestion: It might be a good idea to do a little reading on Newman's commutator.
      Last edited by vidbid; 02-15-2019, 04:24 AM. Reason: fix image link
      Regards,

      VIDBID

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      • Originally posted by vidbid View Post
        Guys, take a closer look at Newman's
        commutator. It's rather complicated.

        Suggestion: It might be a good idea to do a little reading on
        Newman's commutator.


        Newman page

        This is not new info. These facts have been around for decades and
        you think we need to read up? Here is an exhaustive look at the
        nightmare. Not to mention the dozens of repeats on this site.

        Take a look and let him know where he missed it.


        Newman page

        It's the same ole 9 yards of bull that the people are unable to read
        up and this is why free energy can not be had Newman style.

        I think it was sometime in the 70's that Newman released these
        images.


        Newman page

        Here is a Newman farwell

        He basically says that you are gods and asks that the force be with you.
        The guy was always a space chicken on what the lawgiver of the Universe
        is all about. He says he salutes us? Trying to not only frame his position
        as one who is of higher learning but also is far about even that due to
        his connection above. Yet he doesn't know that his cultural inbreeding
        practice is a violation of natural LAW that most 14 year olds get.

        Newman was not all there.

        Sorry guys just another Mikey rant. That stuff burns me up.


        To all peoples whose brain burns and aches to accomplish great things
        and changes for the good, may God and / or the Goodness of the
        universe be with you. For you are the goodness of the universe and
        do good for people inspite of themselves. And I salute you.

        JOSEPH WESTLEY NEWMAN
        [
        Last edited by BroMikey; 01-01-2017, 10:49 AM.

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        • well you have been busy with that at some stage xmemphis but it seems so far off anything I understand as Newman I don't quite know where to start.
          It also sounds like your 'off grid' and it wasn't really your idea - sorry to hear that its crap when your on the bones.
          I guess the first thing to say is this is at best 'research' we are each eventually going to try and contribute and see if we can see a way to make this thing work but I wouldn't put my last few dollars on it! I think we all experiment with our hopes balanced against our funds available time and commitments.- not desperation.
          watch by all means but if you want to drive a house 'off grid' as of 'right now' we are all a long way off . In fact Ive only just sent off for five coils to try my own idea's of what might have made this thing tick, in that respect your further ahead than me, you've built something a bit like half a Newman. Machine, thats more than is on my bench right now.
          Bro the very name ' Newman' seems to send you into an unthinking flat spin. Vidbid is one of the finest contributers I know on this forum. he contributes unstintingly and seems to have the knack of finding the right thing more ften than not and your spitting feathers at him perhaps make a 'Newman' doll and stick it full of pins might blow some stress? thinking cap time! Regards D
          Last edited by Duncan; 01-01-2017, 03:57 PM.
          Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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          • Oh, apologize if I m diggin & publish something that out off topic. Yes most of project I replicate wasnt my idea, I just read and try to build according to almost any schematic plan that I can get here in this forum since the day I join in.

            Sorry cant contribute technical knowledge coz I am start from zero. Maybe the motor I replicate was not this kind of newman motor. I just got the answer that the motor I replicate last time were came from 'fueless engine plan'.

            Thanks for your time & effort in sharing information. I didnt mean any harm. I just want to share what have I done replicate recently rather than just read & build since the past few years. Maybe I m a guy that only know how to replicate/build & make it run but I dont know deeper on how it works.

            Meanwhile, I will continue seeking for information as much as I can here. Since replicating & making it run have become my hobby nowadays, Its nice to see on my bench a small scale thing running.



            RiP beloved JB.

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            • ah - a little model that's nearer the mark- with a fair wind and a little bit of luck that might be do-able . powering your house thats a very different prospect.
              Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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              • Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
                Newman page

                This is not new info. These facts have been around for decades and
                you think we need to read up? Here is an exhaustive look at the
                nightmare. Not to mention the dozens of repeats on this site.

                Take a look and let him know where he missed it.


                Newman page

                It's the same ole 9 yards of bull that the people are unable to read
                up and this is why free energy can not be had Newman style.

                I think it was sometime in the 70's that Newman released these
                images.


                Newman page

                Here is a Newman farwell

                He basically says that you are gods and asks that the force be with you.
                The guy was always a space chicken on what the lawgiver of the Universe
                is all about. He says he salutes us? Trying to not only frame his position
                as one who is of higher learning but also is far about even that due to
                his connection above. Yet he doesn't know that his cultural inbreeding
                practice is a violation of natural LAW that most 14 year olds get.

                Newman was not all there.

                Sorry guys just another Mikey rant. That stuff burns me up.


                To all peoples whose brain burns and aches to accomplish great things
                and changes for the good, may God and / or the Goodness of the
                universe be with you. For you are the goodness of the universe and
                do good for people inspite of themselves. And I salute you.

                JOSEPH WESTLEY NEWMAN
                [

                Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that you feel strongly about the subject and have a great deal of personal energy invested in the expression of those feelings. I didn't know that about you.
                Regards,

                VIDBID

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                • Newman

                  Originally posted by vidbid View Post
                  Guys, take a closer look at Newman's commutator. It's rather complicated.


                  Page 68 of 338



                  Page 71 of 338


                  Images are taken from Newman's book:


                  Newman's Book: 338 Pages
                  Code:
                  http://www.free-energy-info.tuks.nl/Newman.pdf
                  Suggestion: It might be a good idea to do a little reading on Newman's commutator.
                  I'm want to say that I'm not telling anybody what to do or what to think. I've been in flame wars with a few members on this board, and I take full responsibility for my involvement in past flame wars, and having learned from their pitfalls, I have no more desire to re-engage in the old ones or to start new ones. I know many people view Newman as highly unconventional, and there are many of his statements that I don't agree with; however, I think he had a technology which worked, and I have no desire to see it be lost simply because of the kind of man that he was, which in my opinion, only God can be his judge. With that being said, I invite any discussion my way which may of interest to the reader.
                  Last edited by vidbid; 02-15-2019, 04:27 AM. Reason: Changed the word "for" to "from"
                  Regards,

                  VIDBID

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                  • What is the purpose of shorting the coil?

                    Originally posted by vidbid View Post
                    Guys, take a closer look at Newman's commutator. It's rather complicated.


                    Page 68 of 338



                    Page 71 of 338


                    Images are taken from Newman's book:


                    Newman's Book: 338 Pages
                    Code:
                    http://www.free-energy-info.tuks.nl/Newman.pdf
                    Suggestion: It might be a good idea to do a little reading on Newman's commutator.
                    By no means am I anything more than a student of this material, so let me just ask if anybody knows what is the purpose of shorting the coil. It seems counter-intuitive to me. I mean I couldn't tell you what is happening inside the shorted coil.
                    Last edited by vidbid; 02-15-2019, 04:21 AM.
                    Regards,

                    VIDBID

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                    • Originally posted by vidbid View Post
                      I'm want to say that I'm not telling anybody what to do or what to think. I've been in flame wars with a few members on this board, and I take full responsibility for my involvement in past flame wars, and having learned from their pitfalls, I have no more desire to re-engage in the old ones or to start new ones. I know many people view Newman as highly unconventional, and there are many of his statements that I don't agree with; however, I think he had a technology which worked, and I have no desire to see it be lost simply because of the kind of man that he was, which in my opinion, only God can be his judge. With that being said, I invite any discussion my way which may of interest to the reader.
                      Vidbid,
                      I so agree with you. I too am not a/the judge, we christians are witnesses only. Can we please just discuss and learn here.

                      This is the part of this machine that I stopped on. Could not get the timing and build correct. I didn't use the coil shorting method, only measured the coil collapse on each revolution of the rotor.

                      Also I see that smaller coils produce much less inductance to test with. The larger coils seem to hold more energy to work with.
                      My original build was a "toy" size and now this seems to be a wrong way to start learning about replicating on this forum. Like Duncan said time, resources, and life sometimes limits us. I want proof and usually start smaller.

                      Coils is my study area right now, so I'm open to any input here.
                      Thanks Vidbid for the illustrations,
                      wantomake

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                      • in so much as I have formed any idea at all vidbid It is based rather loosely on the 'fueless engine' featured in the link you were kind enough to post else where . although it would be pretty much impossible to build either a working Newman or fueless engine from the details provided for either, it seems to me that there's a working system here (at least in theory) I have gone into that a little bit elsewhere vidbid and oddly it does link in a sloppy way to another thread you opened some time ago to wit - capacitive battery charging , which like most things that actually work and do the extraordinary, now resides in the back pages somewhere . Just to join the dots even though they are far apart and not yet a full picture -- energy = Power x time (ergo KW/hrs for instance ) taking power in an AC (RMS) (sinusoidal) circuit unlike DC where power = VI power now equals VI cos phi where cos phi is the phase angle betixt current and voltage. so much is simply standard school book teaching .
                        could you but reduce cos phi to zero then you get to a point in electronics lingo called resonance and in this case series resonance. touching again on the capacitive battery charger it led me here
                        Capacitive Battery Charger - John Saves Energy
                        there is no pretense at over unity here but it does restore batteries (and very bloody quickly too) even for a dumbo with a big trunk thats a big signpost.
                        we don't have a sine wave -- nothing like - and thats good its a fast switching very square wave I think that is required. I'm no Tesla fan but the very same wave he discovered resulted in 'stinging waves'
                        incidentally vidbid George Wiseman uses that capacitive charger to charge batteries at zero power factor and as a result the power company pays him each month (so far, there might be a slight increase in his weight with a 1/2 OZ of lead ballast soon)
                        here then is a good reason to short out windings - instant collapse - Its the 'instant' thats important try again to grasp Dollard and the waveforms in this video and understand if there is another sort of radio (wireless) then there is also , must be , another sort of electricity. and another sort of magnetism. both of these presenters Dollard and Carson tell and show it again and again in this short video and both suffered horribly for doing it , Chris didn't survive the inevitable visit and interrogation . (described as 'never the same again' 'didn't last long after that'
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7oAlvaC8ls
                        your aware of fellow member Sputins ? read the comments - reduced to tears and thats probably true !
                        he knocked out a processor controlled 'Tesla switch' I seem to remember looking at it at some point.
                        here is another fellow member of the forum vidbid and here the question is simple , if the waveform is not sinusoidal can it also be 'resonant'? there is no formula for this, No maths BUT here's gotoluc showing a square wave -pulse - mess- arc - anything regular ??? - turned to a beautiful sine wave. the impulse is resonant! hoorah
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJQvqTpBdiQ
                        If the drawings are true ? if the windings are as I see them in that mist and fuzz ? if I have at least some this right then it does make sense to short windings out in the cycle to get that sharp change..
                        Its frequency thats important (or what ever the equivalent is when talking about a complex wave)
                        I'm not sure if 'Trashed the power factor' is a term any of my colleges would accept . still if it helps vidbid heres another researcher (I know not who I have copied it) saying exactly the same thing - different words


                        Think about the Newman motor the "Giant Hotdog" * He has converted a low voltage stack PP3 battery source into an ELF pulse through large inductor. The inductor the coil of the motor prevents current flowing so the power factor has been trashed it now like a PF almost 0

                        josephnewman.com *yes i know he is as Loopy as a fruit cake but he worked this out decades ago!

                        "The energy machine is proof that the strength of the motor's magnetic field
                        is dependent upon the VOLTAGE --- NOT the CURRENT!

                        For the first time, Joseph Newman demonstrates the
                        energy machine that turns a 1,650-lb rotary and powers a
                        375-lb positive displacement pump using LESS THAN 20 WATTS!

                        In the video demonstration, the energy machine produces phenomenal
                        speed, torque, and continuously pumps water using LESS THAN 20 WATTS!"

                        In so doing now you have a machine which is basically KVARS due to current < very small on the batteries yet in circulation is > massive together with a circulating voltage of hundreds or thousands of volt *from a few PP3 batteries. The central motor contact ARCS violent on switching.

                        WHERE does the machine gets its power from? *The answer is a PF 0 trashed power factor conditions create large magnet forces from the ambient. *So powerful in fact a magnet 12ft away hanging on a thread spins violently! This magnetic energy is converted to motor torque which provides more HP out then the power IN. *This energy came from the ambient due to scaler PF 0 electrostatic field causing disruption to local electron spin. The misalignment is over corrected in the windings and iron cores where internal spin domain currents create a magnetic field as a result.

                        Anytime you have a moving charge you get a magnetic field.

                        So as Newman motor works so slow its the best visual example to see how to convert VARS to magnetic force then use that to create shaft power far in excess of the PP3 batteries.

                        As also per Don Smith teachings a HV source can become electrostatic (VARS) and THEN modulated to create a powerful alternating magnetic field. Use this FREE magnetic field for the source of your energy and NOT the EM fields. Alike his 1 to 4 copy Tesla tower device.

                        As TPU its the free magnetic rotational field which does all the work. *The conditions to create a powerful magnetic field in rotation WITHOUT power banging fets is the key! *Class C modulated electrostatic fields is the answer.

                        If the coils have a rotational 3D 2 layer magnetic force spinning it only takes another standard coil placed close by to make a generator. There is no EMP, no banging not in uS anyway only gentle switching. No CPU's and no 30 volt 20 amp lab PSU's required. OH **** that rules out just about EVERYTHING in the last 5+ years D
                        Last edited by Duncan; 01-02-2017, 06:11 PM.
                        Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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                        • For the first time, Joseph Newman demonstrates the
                          energy machine that turns a 1,650-lb rotary and powers a
                          375-lb positive displacement pump using LESS THAN 20 WATTS!


                          [/COLOR]
                          We all watched Newman show his rigs and he never, I mean "NEVER"
                          showed us his input figures or output either and so this statement
                          is a lie. I consider it a lie until such time as we see a NEWMAN setup
                          where input and output is shown.

                          Over the years almost anyone who has the ability for rational thought
                          wondered why Newman never showed his figures. It ain't that hard to
                          understand why.

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                          • The Batteries are shown , their maximum delivery, energy rating, and C value would presumably be a matter of record all be it from the battery maker. I also understand this machine was tested over and over again by a string of attested engineers. IMHO there's certainly a lot of Iron moving about for PP3s
                            Bro you seem to be letting your personal dislike of the man 'Newman' cloud your judgment of the possible (or impossible if you like). The difference being two posts written by engineers considering ways it might be made to work with reasoning even if its stretched and your flat rejection without reason,
                            In time both man and machine will be judged but they are seperate entities
                            The machine may be judged by some reading or writing here very soon.
                            Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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                            • Gentleman,

                              Thanks. I appreciate your comments. They are insightful and thoughtful.

                              It seems to me that shorting the coil across itself with the commutator makes absolutely no sense to me, and yet Newman made a point to do it some nineteen times per revolution of his commutator. Why?

                              I guess I'll be asking that question for a while.
                              Regards,

                              VIDBID

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                              • Originally posted by vidbid View Post
                                Gentleman,

                                Thanks. I appreciate your comments. They are insightful and thoughtful.

                                It seems to me that shorting the coil across itself with the commutator makes absolutely no sense to me, and yet Newman made a point to do it some nineteen times per revolution of his commutator. Why?

                                I guess I'll be asking that question for a while.
                                Larger coils have longer ring times? Shorting the coil stops the ringing and utilizes the energy left in them?

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