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  • #46
    Hi everyone,

    I've been testing the effects of the QEG.
    It coincides (like woopy) I have also thought of using a MOT for its high Inductance coil to see if I can produce some of the effects claimed.
    I can confirm that there is a real effects. This looks to have real potential.

    I made a video demo of my setup so you can see that I'm not just talking. However, I did not feel comfortable to demonstrate the Resonance as my particular test setup may not be able to handle such vibrations. When it first happened it scared me and I quickly pulled the plug as my 100 pound safety box was vibrating like a jackhammer.

    Of course I'll be doing more tests but I thought to share my test rig and basic findings.

    Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLiZDQxywqE

    Stay tuned for more

    Luc
    Last edited by gotoluc; 04-11-2014, 02:21 PM.

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    • #47
      Good work. Strap that DUT to something solid, with some elastic isolation, and continue to test, pushing the envelope. Great stuff. Congrats.

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      • #48
        Hi everyone,

        I was out most of the day but had a chance to further test and video what happens when it hits resonance.

        Please note, once I finished this test video the two rotor set screws had worked them self loose with the powerful vibrations.

        I don't think I can go any further with this tests device as my design was mostly to confirm the effect Inductance parametric change have and confirm the effects that have been shared. My design becomes a disk brake at Resonance because the powerful vibrations flexes the rotor and the cores rub together, so I can't confirm how it affect the prime mover at Resonance.
        I know that's the big question but I ask myself, why would it not be as they say since all the other effects are as shared.

        Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_CN6aE2meY

        Luc
        Last edited by gotoluc; 04-11-2014, 11:40 PM.

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        • #49
          Hi

          To see the effect, take a normal transformer, I used a MOT today, and just tapped the casing with a screwdriver, (no disassemble of the transformer) and with the primary or secondary connected to a scope, you will be able to see the effect - I produced over one volt output - not much I appreciate - however interesting. I'll put a video up tomorrow.

          Regards

          John

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          • #50
            Originally posted by john_g View Post
            Hi

            To see the effect, take a normal transformer, I used a MOT today, and just tapped the casing with a screwdriver, (no disassemble of the transformer) and with the primary or secondary connected to a scope, you will be able to see the effect - I produced over one volt output - not much I appreciate - however interesting. I'll put a video up tomorrow.

            Regards

            John
            Confirmed
            There is no important work, there are only a series of moments to demonstrate your mastery and impeccability. Quote from Almine

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            • #51
              Originally posted by gotoluc View Post
              ... I don't think I can go any further with this tests device ... My design becomes a disk brake at Resonance ... so I can't confirm how it affects the prime mover at Resonance ...
              Thank you for posting your follow up video.

              You might be very close to further success.

              I propose you stiffen the box and stiffen the rotor.

              Because the box is closed it is difficult to see precisely where the challenge lies. However. By rebuilding the rotor mount including more material behind to reduce or eliminate flex you can use your testbed to explore further. It may be more likely that the box itself, in particular the wall of the box to which the transformers are mounted, is flexing. I am certain you realize this and can think of ways to address this movement. A second layer of plywood or a metal plate outside the box are two possibilities - among many others.

              I make this post in the hope to see more of this testbed because I sense that you may be much closer to significantly more success than you might believe.

              Of course I could be mistaken as I am merely guessing about your mood - second-hand and far removed from your location.

              Again, thank you very much for this work and for your generous sharing of your time and results. I feel certain that many appreciate it more than you might suspect.
              Last edited by nickec; 04-12-2014, 07:30 AM.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by ewizard View Post
                Confirmed
                Thanks ewizard. Just uploaded a video:

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b0xMElhN7c

                Note - I made a mistake at the end of the video, I should have said 300 to 400 Milli-volts, but I said micro-volts ops!

                I wonder what the effect of a tuning fork held onto the case would be? Related, but I do not want to go off-topic:

                http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post253925

                Regards

                John
                Last edited by john_g; 04-12-2014, 12:12 PM.

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                • #53
                  I was testing hitting the MOT cores with metal like woopy and john_g did and found what causes the voltage.

                  I also checked for magnetism in my I cores and could not conclude anything.

                  Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3v2d2czTZg

                  Luc

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                  • #54
                    Hi everyone,

                    It was suggested to connect bulbs in series on the high voltage side to helped stabilize the Resonance.

                    Here is the video demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-jYPDuueY0

                    Luc

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Mario View Post
                      Hi all,

                      this sounds all interesting but there are a few confusing things, to me at least. If the rotor is iron only and not magnetic, how can it start to induce anything into the windings. I mean even the resonant coils have to receive a start kick from somewhere to start up? Is this what the exciter coil is for? But how? The only thing that gets power from the grid for start up is the motor, not the exciter coil. I don't get it…

                      regards,
                      Mario
                      Hi Mario,

                      I recall some years ago I did some tests with an L meter, checking the inductance of a coil wound onto a 5cm OD toroidal core. And then I inserted a ferrite rod diagonally into the ring, long enough to have but 1-2 mm air gap between the ends of the rod and the inner wall of the toroid. The L meter showed an increased inductance value for the same coil. This stands to reason because the permeability of the toroid was influenced (increased) by the diagonally inserted ferrite rod.
                      So the iron rotor in the QEG periodically changes the inductance of the coils wound onto the ring core whenever the rotor is aligned with the prongs of the ring. This change in inductance is already enough to maintain oscillations in the LC tank, a case for parametric excitation. Whether such setups are able to produce any extra output over the input? remains to be proved by correct measurements.

                      Here are some papers on parametrically excited setups, notice especially Number 3 by Lazarev:
                      National ElectroDynamics, LLC : Translation Publications

                      Gyula

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                      • #56
                        Hi Gyula,

                        I get that the inductance changes when shorting or changhing the core path, I just couldn't see how that could start any voltage fluctuations. Now that I've tried tapping a few coil cores I know that it somehow induces a voltage just from the vibration.

                        @Luc

                        Thanks for showing your experiments. I just wanted to say that you maybe right about the static when you sweep across the laminate and touch the metal. But when hitting the core I got voltage even when not touching metal, in fact even when hitting it with something hard that's not conductive.

                        Luc, in your opinion since you seem to have so many of them, what is the easiest way to open the top of a MO transformer without a welder, just a saw?

                        thanks,
                        Mario

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Mario View Post
                          Luc, in your opinion since you seem to have so many of them, what is the easiest way to open the top of a MO transformer without a welder, just a saw?

                          thanks,
                          Mario
                          Hi Mario,

                          I use an angle grinder with a super thin cut off blade but I suppose you can use a steel hack saw. Scratch a guide line on the welds exactly between the I and E and cut straight on that line about 3mm (equally) deep. Once both sides are done tap on the I corners with a hammer and it should come apart. If not, then cut 1mm deeper at a time till they separates.

                          All the best

                          Luc

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                          • #58
                            UPDATE - April 13 - From the QEG Team in Taiwan

                            From: Quantum Energy Generator Forum :: Topic: UPDATE - April 13 - From the QEG Team in Taiwan (1/1)

                            Latest Developments with QEG replication in Taiwan .... significant breakthrough in understanding the tuning process

                            " You've got to let the machine do what it wants to do ....it's a high voltage machine"

                            4 13 14 QEG Taiwan Update - YouTube
                            Last edited by energicjoe; 04-13-2014, 05:22 PM.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Mario View Post
                              ...
                              I get that the inductance changes when shorting or changhing the core path, I just couldn't see how that could start any voltage fluctuations. Now that I've tried tapping a few coil cores I know that it somehow induces a voltage just from the vibration.
                              ....
                              Not only vibrations, another 'chance' for the oscillations to start is any tiny remanent magnetism in the core(s) even if they are so-called soft iron cores.
                              A third possibility is the Brownian motion of particles in the cores like in any metals due to heat, their random movements can be lined up and got organised in a tank circuit due to the selectivity property of the tank (like in an active LC oscillator at start up but of course other conditions must be met in the latter case).

                              Another member has also addressed this question, perhaps you have seen his post? http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post253914

                              Gyula

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by gotoluc View Post
                                Hi everyone,

                                I was out most of the day but had a chance to further test and video what happens when it hits resonance.

                                Please note, once I finished this test video the two rotor set screws had worked them self loose with the powerful vibrations.

                                I don't think I can go any further with this tests device as my design was mostly to confirm the effect Inductance parametric change have and confirm the effects that have been shared. My design becomes a disk brake at Resonance because the powerful vibrations flexes the rotor and the cores rub together, so I can't confirm how it affect the prime mover at Resonance.
                                I know that's the big question but I ask myself, why would it not be as they say since all the other effects are as shared.

                                Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_CN6aE2meY

                                Luc
                                Hey Luc,
                                Thanks for your interesting measurements.

                                Wouldn't it cause less vibration to place the two "cutted" transformer radially rather than axially ?
                                The resulting force trying to pull the two cutted pieces, and thus the motor will hopefully counterbalance themselves, since both sides want to pull (the shaft and welds have to be strong enough though ...)
                                The problem is that the air gap will be greater except if you can grind your cutted transformer into a more circular shape to allow proper rotation
                                (small image because it is maybe not clear)


                                this would also begin to shape like a QEG

                                Keep up the good work, it has been a pleasure to watch your videos !

                                P.

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