COP 20.0 (2000%) Demonstration

[forelle]

Does someone know where i can read the SERPS patent.
Thanks

[SilverToGold]

This is a private secret device and no patents are available.

Here's the basic schematic:

Does someone know where i can read the SERPS patent.
Thanks

[Aaron]

another video by Jim Murray

An awesome video by Jim will be coming out soon going over more of his work on this topic.

[SilverToGold]

What exciting news Aaron!!

An awesome video by Jim will be coming out soon going over more of his work on this topic.

[ctglabs]

Jim Murray Radio Show

Dear all,

I am mentioning this as no one on the forums seems to be aware of it and some may find it useful.

Jim Murray was a weekly guest on a radio show hosted by his long time friend Don Nicoloff - Evident Footprints with Don Nicoloff | BBS Radio

Some weeks Jim would talk about his technology and others not. There are tons of shows and years ago I listened to them all and picked out the ones where Jim talks about his various technologies and ideas. If anyone is interested I can perhaps provide the relevant shows of which there are many. The show has now been cancelled so there are no new ones, I don't think Don had many listeners and they booted him.

I studied Jims work for a long time and constructed a Dynaflux alternator as best I could to I could better understand it. Balancing the 45 degree rotor is a real issue for a home build.

The concept of reactive-watts, or the var-watt as Jim calls it is the concept of negative real watts. Power flows backwards in the device for half the time but not as unused energy or vars but as negative real power. I am sure many will say that sounds like rubbish but all you need do is study the dynaflux patent enough times to see exactly what is going on and then suddenly it clicks! Real power can flow in both directions rather than just real power flowing forward with only vars returning. The system creates real power that can change direction which is what Jim calls oscillating watts or oscillating power. As the rotor is changing direction at twice the frequency of the electricity it generates there is a beat between the mechanical and electrical powers which represents oscillating power.

The "trick" as people refer to it is that the input meter averages out the forward and backwards power and averages toward zero, it sees the net value, it assumes they are vars and gives you the difference between the two as it is designed to do. It cant tell the difference between vars and var-watts.

SERPS apparently does the same thing as Dynaflux but in a completely different way, a cap is charged in series with a resistor via a mosfet and then discharged back to the mains. Charging occurs on one 1/4 cycle and discharging takes place on the next 1/4 cycle. The circuit itself is very simple and most of it consists of timing and control circuitry, but the switching itself is simple although the RC values are apparently critical.

Erik is the one who built the solid state devices. The only info I have ever found on Erik is the following site: www.taxpayerslavery.com - THE RUN FOR FREEDOM PROFILE PAGE You will recognise his face from the video. I believe Jim built a version of SERPS using tubes before he met Erik or at any rate before MOSFETS or IGBTs were used.



Regards to all,

David.

[Mario]

Hi David,

Charging occurs on one 1/4 cycle and discharging takes place on the next 1/4 cycle

Thank you for the precious info, by watching his scope shots I figured the switching times are 1/4 cycle. You can see how the voltage sine wave gets distorted a bit when he takes or gives back…
Do you think the discharging back takes place through the load also or is the load bypassed then?

regards,
Mario

[ctglabs]

Hello,

My understanding is it goes back through the load. I have not seen any evidence of it but my understanding is it is based partly on the transient you see in AC. During the first AC transient the current is a DC hump so the current reaches max at 180d and comes down to zero at 360. The voltage becomes in series with the supply at this point and the first discovery was made with RL serps! The backemf adds to the supply voltage instead of opposing it which creates an accelleration and a negative watt in the same way the rotor direction becomes aligned with the reactive current in dynaflux and suddenly lenz law causes an accelleration which reverses the direction of the power flow.

How that works with RC serps I really don't know. I built 4 versions over several years and tested them to death with a HAMEG power analyser and a TEK scope and various others measurements. They were controlled by PIC32mx microcontroller for accurate timing after being triggerred by a zero crossing detector. I never saw any of the effects at all and could always account for all the power in the circuit. I spent hours and hours pondering how the circuit could behave in the same way as the dynaflux alternator.

I did manage to get the same kind of measurements as seen in the video by hooking the power anayser up in a wrong way using input transformer incorrectly. Basicailly by using a transformer with two secondarys but only measuring one phase the meter can be tricked in to reading zero watts or even negative watts the more you move the switching point around... I have photos of all this and can post later.



Regards,

David.

[Mario]

Hi Dave,

maybe I'm just naive and oversimplifying things, but this is what I gather from the scope shot. Let's define 0 degrees to be the start of the positive voltage curve. Let's start our thinking process at 90degrees, at V peak, this is where we switch the source to the cap through the load, in fact this is where we get the pos. current hump.

At 180 at 0 voltage the cap is full. Here through switching we reverse the cap (like Silvertogold suggested) and reconnect to the source and let it discharge through the load, in fact fro 180 to 270 you see the current hump still positive and voltage negative.

At 270 you leave the cap connected as is and reswitch it at 360 degrees, same process as from 90 to 270 but opposite polarities. sort of like a forced resonance...

like I said maybe this is just too easy...

regards,
mario

[ctglabs]

Hi,

It may be. From the video we can see there are 4 caps. They are connected so there is 2 caps in series and another 2 in series. So instead of 4 caps we really have 2 caps. Looking closely each 2 caps is conneced so they are +--+ or -++- I cant remember which way around but they are connected so that they can be used with AC even though they are electrolytic caps.

I understood it to be that at 0d when V = 0 and voltage start to go positive we discharge cap no 1. At 90d when Vmax we charge cap 1. At 180d we discharge the cap 2. At 270d we charge cap 2. And we repeat.

So each cap is is used on each half cycle with one cap charging on 1/4 cycle, then discharge next 1/4, then for next 2/4 cycles the other caps handles. The unit could be simplified to use only one half cycle and one cap set rather than full cycle ?!

I have to say though that when I was able to replicate the measurement by connecting the watt meter to the input transformer and was able to straight away get such measurements I lost all faith in this.

Furthermore Dynaflux appears to be only able to be 100% efficient by making use of reactive power in its design, as can be seen in the measurements in the patent Jim says it can be made up to 99% eff by making use of the reactive power and making average in one direction rather than average to zero.

Oh I forgot, I also built a small transforming generator as well and I can post picture of that too but I found that it has a problem where it can result in a magnetic lock which requires a really large drive motor to overcome, certainly one the size in the video and not a small one like I was using (150w).


Regards,

David.

[ctglabs]

Also regarding the transforming generator, in the video it speeds up and has to be shut down as it will apparently continue until it breaks apart but I could not fathom at all how what mechanism could do that. Jim says it has the same oscilaltion of power between the coils and the rotor but I just can't see it in this design. Seems more to me like it has a magnetic break on which is released and it simply starts to speed up to it's max!


Regards,

David.

[Aaron]

Jim Murray's Dynaflux Alternator

Dear all,

I am mentioning this as no one on the forums seems to be aware of it and some may find it useful.

Jim Murray was a weekly guest on a radio show hosted by his long time friend Don Nicoloff - Evident Footprints with Don Nicoloff | BBS Radio

Some weeks Jim would talk about his technology and others not. There are tons of shows and years ago I listened to them all and picked out the ones where Jim talks about his various technologies and ideas. If anyone is interested I can perhaps provide the relevant shows of which there are many. The show has now been cancelled so there are no new ones, I don't think Don had many listeners and they booted him.

I studied Jims work for a long time and constructed a Dynaflux alternator as best I could to I could better understand it. Balancing the 45 degree rotor is a real issue for a home build.

The concept of reactive-watts, or the var-watt as Jim calls it is the concept of negative real watts. Power flows backwards in the device for half the time but not as unused energy or vars but as negative real power. I am sure many will say that sounds like rubbish but all you need do is study the dynaflux patent enough times to see exactly what is going on and then suddenly it clicks! Real power can flow in both directions rather than just real power flowing forward with only vars returning. The system creates real power that can change direction which is what Jim calls oscillating watts or oscillating power. As the rotor is changing direction at twice the frequency of the electricity it generates there is a beat between the mechanical and electrical powers which represents oscillating power.

The "trick" as people refer to it is that the input meter averages out the forward and backwards power and averages toward zero, it sees the net value, it assumes they are vars and gives you the difference between the two as it is designed to do. It cant tell the difference between vars and var-watts.

SERPS apparently does the same thing as Dynaflux but in a completely different way, a cap is charged in series with a resistor via a mosfet and then discharged back to the mains. Charging occurs on one 1/4 cycle and discharging takes place on the next 1/4 cycle. The circuit itself is very simple and most of it consists of timing and control circuitry, but the switching itself is simple although the RC values are apparently critical.

Erik is the one who built the solid state devices. The only info I have ever found on Erik is the following site: www.taxpayerslavery.com - THE RUN FOR FREEDOM PROFILE PAGE You will recognise his face from the video. I believe Jim built a version of SERPS using tubes before he met Erik or at any rate before MOSFETS or IGBTs were used.



Regards to all,

David.

Jim and I are planning some regular talks like the radio show he did in the past. Jim is not just a genius with his work, he is really funny and entertaining.

Yes, it's real power going back as it is heating the resistor (or lighting bulbs) on its way back to the source and it turns a generator into a motor for that moment (in the non-solid state units of course).

For example in the Ainslie circuit that some people have contacted me about thinking Jim's is similar, but it is not. In the Ainslie circuit, A DC pulse is moved through an inductive resistor by switching on a mosfet. When it is turned off, the magnetic field in that inductor collapses and sends a spike backwards through the freewheeling diode in the mosfet (intrinsic diode) back to the power source (battery) - but that is not returning power...just voltage potential with virtually no current so the battery gets hit with a potential charge but it doesn't like to be alternately charged and discharged. The resistor is just heated in one direction. Jim's is real power going backwards to the source.

I have a new video that is coming out shortly about Jim's work and he goes over the beat frequency, etc... and a lot of other details.

Jim's SERPS was originally made with tubes 30 years ago but the mosfets are still a weakness. Paul Babcock's switching methods are THE PERFECT solution to the whole thing - a match made in heaven.

[Aaron]

more or less

I have to say though that when I was able to replicate the measurement by connecting the watt meter to the input transformer and was able to straight away get such measurements I lost all faith in this.

Furthermore Dynaflux appears to be only able to be 100% efficient by making use of reactive power in its design, as can be seen in the measurements in the patent Jim says it can be made up to 99% eff by making use of the reactive power and making average in one direction rather than average to zero.

Oh I forgot, I also built a small transforming generator as well and I can post picture of that too but I found that it has a problem where it can result in a magnetic lock which requires a really large drive motor to overcome, certainly one the size in the video and not a small one like I was using (150w).


Regards,

David.

You lost faith because you can do metering tricks?

James Randi the great fraud "debunks" quite a few things by explaining how they COULD be done with magic tricks, etc... but that has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not that is how something was actually done. Losing faith because of seeing one of many different possibilities doesn't sound very rational to me. Not attacking you and not trying to say you're just trying to debunk this because that isn't what I think your intention is, but the logic isn't really there.

What do you think is acceptable in a patent, to say 150% efficient?

Here is a quote from one of John Bedini's patents:

US Patent # 6,392,370 May 21, 2002 ~ US Cl. 318/140
Device and Method of a Back EMF Permanent Electromagnetic Motor Generator
John Bedini

"The device and method of the present invention is a new permanent electromagnetic motor generator that recycles back EMF energy (regauging) thus allowing the motor to produce an energy level of COP=0.98, more or less, depending upon configuration, circuitry, switching elements and the number and size of stators, rotors and coils that comprise the motor."

Silver to Gold - didn't you work in the patent office? If anything is stated over this, it will be automatically denied because impossible claims.

[Aaron]

Transforming Generator

Also regarding the transforming generator, in the video it speeds up and has to be shut down as it will apparently continue until it breaks apart but I could not fathom at all how what mechanism could do that. Jim says it has the same oscilaltion of power between the coils and the rotor but I just can't see it in this design. Seems more to me like it has a magnetic break on which is released and it simply starts to speed up to it's max!


Regards,

David.

Yes, it will speed up until it self destructs.

That is only because he doesn't have the control circuit for it to cut out the input to regulate its speed.

[Aaron]

Jim Murray

Jim will have a new website up pretty soon and the new video will be available as well so stay tuned. Jim is excited that others are interested in his work.

[Mario]

Hi,

It may be. From the video we can see there are 4 caps. They are connected so there is 2 caps in series and another 2 in series. So instead of 4 caps we really have 2 caps. Looking closely each 2 caps is conneced so they are +--+ or -++- I cant remember which way around but they are connected so that they can be used with AC even though they are electrolytic caps.

I understood it to be that at 0d when V = 0 and voltage start to go positive we discharge cap no 1. At 90d when Vmax we charge cap 1. At 180d we discharge the cap 2. At 270d we charge cap 2. And we repeat.

So each cap is is used on each half cycle with one cap charging on 1/4 cycle, then discharge next 1/4, then for next 2/4 cycles the other caps handles. The unit could be simplified to use only one half cycle and one cap set rather than full cycle ?!

I have to say though that when I was able to replicate the measurement by connecting the watt meter to the input transformer and was able to straight away get such measurements I lost all faith in this.

Furthermore Dynaflux appears to be only able to be 100% efficient by making use of reactive power in its design, as can be seen in the measurements in the patent Jim says it can be made up to 99% eff by making use of the reactive power and making average in one direction rather than average to zero.

Oh I forgot, I also built a small transforming generator as well and I can post picture of that too but I found that it has a problem where it can result in a magnetic lock which requires a really large drive motor to overcome, certainly one the size in the video and not a small one like I was using (150w).


Regards,

David.

Hi Dave,

Sorry but I don't know your generator so I can't comment on that.

What you describe with the two caps accomplishes the same as I described if I'm not mistaking, only that in my version you use one cap which has to be flipped (switched) around in polarity, while in your version you connect one or the other cap depending on what 1/4 cycle you are.

Aaron, would you agree with this to be the bottom line of the concept?

regards,
Mario