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    Ratchet mechanism to turn what? Tesla US685957 patent.

    Look at the drawing on the first page:
    Patent Images
    Same picture as in Fig2 --->
    File:PhotoelectricEffect(Tesla).png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    In Fig 2 why is there a mechanism that spins a cog wheel with a spring-loaded ratchet? Is that wheel supposed to modulate something like the distance between contacts (f) and (f')? It looks like there is a cam on this wheel. So it pushes something closer together and lets it come back further apart?

    This wheel will take many charge and discharge cycles to turn 360 degrees. So if it is used to make the Radiant Energy apparatus more efficient, it modulates some very large cycle.

    This patent is talking about negative voltage being applied to the plate that is exposed to radiant energy.

    If I take a Marx generator and energize a piece of aluminum foil to 100,000V, would I be able to efficiently build up more charge as particles (such as particles that can be seen in Cloud Chamber Cloud chamber - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I believe that this invention doesn't violate any laws of conventional physics because cloud chambers show this radiation that this circuit takes advantage of...

    Isolating a solar panel with the load from the ground and applying high negative voltage will help attract photons to the solar panel and make it more efficient?

    I want to know as much as I can before I continue experiments in this field.

    Thank you.

  • #2
    From memory, the ratchet is simply to illustrate a means of deriving mechanical or rotational energy from the arrangement. As for the "charged plates", note the break in the circuit. When sufficient energy is gathered the plates attract thus closing the circuit - electroscope style, discharging the condenser through a coil/electromagnet which operates the wheel/ratchet. It's effectively a self-triggering switch.
    http://www.teslascientific.com/

    "Knowledge is cosmic. It does not evolve or unfold in man. Man unfolds to an awareness of it. He gradually discovers it." - Walter Russell

    "Once men died for Truth, but now Truth dies at the hands of men." - Manly P. Hall

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    • #3
      Originally posted by dR-Green View Post
      From memory, the ratchet is simply to illustrate a means of deriving mechanical or rotational energy from the arrangement. As for the "charged plates", note the break in the circuit. When sufficient energy is gathered the plates attract thus closing the circuit - electroscope style, discharging the condenser through a coil/electromagnet which operates the wheel/ratchet. It's effectively a self-triggering switch.
      So the wheel is to illustrate how mechanical energy can be obtained.

      But what about "Negative Voltage"?

      So if I connect positive of my circuit to the ground and negative to the plate, like in old automobiles, I will get better results than if I supply my plate with a positive high voltage?

      So Tesla cosmic rays were indeed protons and other positive charged particles, such as alpha particles.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by tarakan View Post
        So the wheel is to illustrate how mechanical energy can be obtained.

        But what about "Negative Voltage"?

        So if I connect positive of my circuit to the ground and negative to the plate, like in old automobiles, I will get better results than if I supply my plate with a positive high voltage?

        So Tesla cosmic rays were indeed protons and other positive charged particles, such as alpha particles.
        If you study the diagram and read the patent text you will see that one of the plates is already grounded. That's the reason why the other plate will be attracted to it when the condenser is charged. The plates are supposedly oppositely charged therefore attract. After the condenser is discharged they are similarly charged and separate, ready to begin the cycle again.

        It's an electroscope style triggered switch that automatically cycles because of the charge on the plates which either attracts or repels the plates, each plate being connected to each terminal of the condenser. When the condenser is discharged they repel, and when it's charged they attract.
        http://www.teslascientific.com/

        "Knowledge is cosmic. It does not evolve or unfold in man. Man unfolds to an awareness of it. He gradually discovers it." - Walter Russell

        "Once men died for Truth, but now Truth dies at the hands of men." - Manly P. Hall

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        • #5
          Drawing

          Hi tarakan
          I was looking at making a few simple but accurate model of Tesla's works, I usually draw a picture in some detail that helps me get the right vibe. I hope this helps. Regards Arto

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          • #6
            Originally posted by artoj View Post
            Hi tarakan
            I was looking at making a few simple but accurate model of Tesla's works, I usually draw a picture in some detail that helps me get the right vibe. I hope this helps. Regards Arto
            This is a very beautiful diagram.
            I was just trying to understand what Tesla was thinking and what electric components he would have used to solve a problem.
            Thank you for the illustration.

            So you are the author of an excel table for the Eric Dollard Coil?
            I want to make one to see what makes it so unique.
            May I have a link to the spreadsheet?
            Thank you.

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            • #7
              @ Artoj,

              That sure is a nice drawing!
              Have you done any other patents/works of Tesla?
              Will you be publishing your collection?


              Ernst.

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              • #8
                The mechanism timing was a brief and coordinated along with the pulse coil.
                Tesla was interested in the energetic forms of electricity as seen in
                his utilizing radiant energy.

                Both AC sine wave and straight Direct current did not produce the effect
                that he was after.

                Like many great ideas it had a simple beginning.
                Much like a clock ratchet-wheel but not driven by a spiral spring.
                Having not seen it but Tesla worked big so the 3D might be closer to the original size.
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heAS0L1jANs

                I have not measured the emission from the rays discussed in the patent.

                Envisioning the use of the clock clicking mechanism could have been the idea that Tesla initially
                used to develop this. Some will argue that there was never any electro-mechanical parts.
                It would be some time later and more development before he would tell Hertz that he was correct.
                Last edited by mikrovolt; 08-26-2015, 12:24 PM.

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                • #9
                  More Pics

                  Thanks Ernst,
                  Yes I will be putting at least few(4-15?) completed Tesla Patents in my next volume. It should be released in a few months, regards Arto.

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