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  • Chris Hunter "Alaska Star" releases an O U PDF

    It has been many years since I last Spoke with Chris , he has shared something
    truly wonderful.


    A truly exemplary Human being.


    Enjoy.........


    Chet
    PS
    This was shared By "Mehmet"


    at OverunityResearch.com

    Link works now
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    Last edited by RAMSET; 05-12-2014, 01:56 PM.
    If you want to Change the world
    BE that change !!

  • #2
    Hi Chet,

    This sounds interesting but I see no link?

    Gene

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    • #3
      Excellent!

      Chet,

      Thanks for posting this. I've worked on a similar set of ideas for years, using air and water as the working fluids, where the air is in an open cycle and the water is re-used over and over.

      The front end is essentially an off-the-shelf piston compressor. Ambient air is drawn in and compressed, raising the temperature. This hot, compressed air is pushed into a small reactor chamber just off the piston head. Water is preheated by the input cylinder heat and then injected into the reactor chamber to flash to steam. Next, the valve opens and the compressed air and the expanding steam produce the power stroke in a "steam engine" type wet environment piston (like brass or bronze) with a shorter stroke so the water re-condenses right at the bottom of the stoke. Finally, the exhaust valve opens and the cool air and water are evacuated to be separated and the cycle starts again. The water is recycled but new ambient air is used with each stroke.

      The machine is essentially a "solar powered steam engine" that works on the heat in the ambient air for 24/7 operation.

      Chris Hunter's design, using LPG in a closed cycle, uses the same basic physics and this document looks to be the description of a real, working system. By using a single refrigerant in both its liquid and gaseous forms, it simplifies the engine design considerably. Is there any way to find out more? Pictures, diagrams, test results? There are people who would fund development of this technology.

      I also discuss a variant of this idea published by Nikola Tesla in 1900 in a lecture I gave last summer titled Open System Thermodynamics.

      Tesla called his machine the "Self-acting Engine." He believed that the "heat in the ambient air" was the largest, untapped energy source on the planet, and the engine that tapped that source would be the most important engine ever developed for the future of civilization.

      Thanks for sharing.

      Best regards,
      Peter
      Last edited by Peter Lindemann; 05-13-2014, 03:28 PM.
      Peter Lindemann, D.Sc.

      Open System Thermodynamics Perpetual Motion Reality Electric Motor Secrets
      Battery Secrets Magnet Secrets Tesla's Radiant Energy Real Rain Making
      Bedini SG: The Complete Handbook Series Magnetic Energy Secrets

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      • #4
        Thanks RAMSET, Thanks Chris Hunter!

        Thanks RAMSET, Thanks Chris Hunter!

        Below is just a copy-paste from pdf (SO ANYONE COULD READ THIS)

        FOR FREE THINKING RESEARCHERS ONLY
        "REFRIGERANT ENGINE" OR
        "AEROTHERMAL ENGINE"- "A.T.E."
        AN EXPERIMENTAL GASOLINE ENGINE MODIFICATION.
         TURN AN OPEN INTAKE/OPEN EXHAUST HEAT BASED GASOLINE ENGINE INTO A "CLOSED LOOP" COLD REFRIGERANT BASED ENGINE.
        THE ULTIMATE ENERGY SOURCE FOR THIS ENGINE IS HEAT.
        IN PRACTICAL USE, HEAT IS PROVIDED BY THE SUN, AND IS EXTRACTED IN AN ECONOMICAL FASHION.
        EXCESS HEAT ENERGY IS PRESENT IN INEXTINGUISHABLE QUANTITIES ON PLANET EARTH.
        CONSTRUCTION
        COMMON GASOLINE ENGINE, 2 CYCLE OR 4 CYCLE.
        NOTE: 2 CYLINDERS MUST HAVE 180 DEGREE CRANKSHAFT. NO 3 OR 5 CYLINDER ENGINES. NO DIESEL.
        1. CONNECT EXHAUST PIPE/TUBE TO INTAKE PIPE/TUBE AT CLOSEST POINTS POSSIBLE, WITHOUT LEAKS, MAKING ENGINE CLOSED LOOP OPERATION.
        2. ADD A T-FITTING OR OUTLET CONNECTION TO THE EXHAUST/INTAKE LOOP, PREFERABLY NEARER THE EXHAUST MANIFOLD.
        3. ADD A ONE WAY CHECK VALVE AT THE EXIT OF THE T-FITTING/CONNECTION. CHECK VALVE EXAMPLE- PARKER PNEUMATIC
        VALVE OPENS AT 5-7 PSI (11 PSI MAXIMUM).
        4. BEYOND THE CHECK VALVE, ADD A BALL VALVE TO REGULATE FLOW.
        5. BEYOND CHECK VALVE/BALL VALVE ASSEMBLY, CONTINUE PIPE/TUBE TO INLET SIDE OF AN AIR CONDITIONING PUMP, THAT IS IN OPERATING CONDITION, AND ALREADY ATTACHED TO THE ENGINE.
        6. OUTLET OF THE AIR CONDITIONING PUMP GOES THROUGH ONE OR MORE CONDENSER COILS, AND THEN TO A SMALL ACCUMULATOR ABOVE THE FUEL INJECTOR, WHICH IS MENTIONED LATER. CONDENSER MUST BE COOLED BY FAN AND/OR AIRFLOW.
        7. REMOVE SPARK PLUG(S). MAKE AN ADAPTER TO INSTALL AN LPG/PROPANE
        TYPE FUEL INJECTOR INTO SPARK PLUG OPENING. REPLACE SPARK PLUG WITH LPG/PROPANE INJECTOR ONLY. GASOLINE TYPE INJECTOR WILL NOT WORK. FUEL INJECTOR EXAMPLE- MOTORCRAFT PART #CM5153, FORD TRUCK WITH LPG.
        8. THE FUEL INJECTOR IS FIRED AT TOP DEAD CENTER (TDC) AFTER COMPRESSION STROKE, AND REMAINS OPEN FOR APPROXIMATELY 90 DEGREES (THIS MAY VARY BY APPLICATION). A SMALL BALL VALVE ABOVE THE INJECTOR MAY REGULATE RPM/ENGINE SPEED.
        9. CHARGE SYSTEM AS TYPICAL FOR AC SYSTEMS USING R12a REFRIGERANT, OR LESS FLAMMABLE PROPANE/LPG. CHARGE TO 3-7 PSI. DO NOT EXCEED 11 PSI.
        10. ENGINE WILL RUN COLD. USE 5-20W
        MOTOR OIL, 0-20W IN COOLER CLIMATES. REMOVE THERMOSTAT, OR REMOVE CENTER OF THERMOSTAT (DEPENDING ON APPLICATION).
        11. REGULATING ENGINE SPEED AND TIMING PRESENT A CHALLENGE. MULTIPLE CAMSHAFT TRIGGERS MAY PROVIDE A GOOD WAY TO "TIME" THE LPG INJECTOR. A PWM CIRCUIT MAY BE USED WITH A VARIABLE RESISTER TO CONTROL ENGINE SPEED. MAYBE A SMALL ELECTRIC MOTOR AND SET OF POINTS AND VARIABLE RESISTER (5 OHM). MAYBE MANUAL BALL VALVES TO REGULATE FLOW.
        12. COULD IT BE SIMPLER THAN THAT?
        EFFECT
         THE INTAKE PLENUM IS PRESSURIZED TO A
        MINIMUM 3.0 PSI
         THE INTAKE STROKE HAPPENS. CYLINDER COMPLETELY FILLED WITH REFRIGERANT.
         THE INTAKE VALVE CLOSES.
         THE PISTON MOVES FROM BOTTOM (BDC) UPWARD AND COMPRESSES THE REFRIGERANT.
         AT THE POINT WHERE THE PISTON REACHES TOP OF THE CYLINDER AND THE REFRIGERANT HAS REACHED MAXIMUM COMPRESSION PRESSURE, THE LPG INJECTOR THAT IS IN THE SPARK PLUG OPENING "OPENS" AND SPRAYS A SMALL BIT OF LIQUID REFRIGERANT INTO THE CYLINDER.
         THIS REFRIGERANT BEGINS TO EXPAND IN THE HOT PRESSURIZED REFRIGERANT IN
        THE CYLINDER, PUSHING THE PISTON DOWN, GENERATING HORSEPOWER AND TORQUE.
         AT THE POINT THAT THE PISTON REACHES THE BOTTOM OF ITS POWER STROKE AND BEGINS TO RETURN UPWARD, THE EXHAUST VALVE OPENS AND THE PISTON PUSHES THE NOW EXPANDED REFRIGERANT OUT OF THE CYLINDER PAST THE EXHAUST VALVE INTO THE COMMON LOOP MANIFOLD.
         HEAT ENERGY FROM FRICTION, COMPRESSION, AND ATMOSPHERIC HEAT WORK TOGETHER AS THE READILY AVAILABLE FUEL.
         GASOLINE IS ALSO A HEAT FUEL. WHEN GASOLINE BURNS, THE HEAT PRODUCED CAUSES ATMOSPHERIC GASES LIKE
        NITROGEN TO RAPIDLY EXPAND, PUSHING THE PISTON DOWN.
         RATHER THAN USE GASOLINE, WHICH PRODUCES HUGE QUANTITIES OF HEAT THAT IS NEVER USED FOR POWER (BUT IS WASTED), WE MAY USE READILY AVAILABLE HEAT WITHOUT ANY WASTE OR TOXIC BY-PRODUCT.
        THIS DISCOVERY WAS MADE BY A BRILLIANT YOUNG SCIENTIST AND INVENTOR- CHRIS HUNTER, OF FAIRBANKS, ALASKA.
        MR. HUNTER WORKED FOR 9 YEARS, SPENDING LARGE SUMS OF HIS OWN MONEY TO COMPLETE THIS SYSTEM.
        MR. HUNTER HAS OPENLY SHARED ALL OF HIS
        DISCOVERIES WITH MANKIND.
        MR. HUNTERS KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE ARE UNSURPASSED, IN MY OPINION. HE IS AN EXPERT MECHANIC, AND HAS WORKED WITH TURBINES, QUASI-TURBINES, WANKEL, SCROLL EXPANDERS, TESLA TURBINE, STEAM ENGINES, 2 STROKE BASH VALVE, HHO WATER FUEL, EXOTIC ELECTRIC MOTORS, AND THE LIST GOES ON.
        THANK YOU MR. CHRIS HUNTER.

        180 DEGREES CRANKS:

        [IMG][/IMG]



        Above are Motorcycles engines crankshafts...

        This Engine should work perfectly...and is very low psi...not even an HVLP (High Volume Low Pressure) Spray Gun works this low pressure, but at seven(7) or 9 psi...

        "Air Conditioning Pump" he means an AC Compressor, and the "Inlet" is the Low Pressure/Suction Line (he recommends to keep it closer to Exhaust Pipes)...Outlet or Discharge Line (High Pressure Side) goes to the Condensers and the SMALL Accumulator (Drier) Bottle (all this are automotive AC Parts) He says accumulator to be above fuel injectors...

        One thing that I notice, is missing to be explained here (as I see this whole thing already) is the distribution from the high pressure line from accumulator to a "DISTRIBUTOR" Type Pump (similar to a Diesel Fuel Pump), and then to each individual Propane Injectors installed at each spark plug housing...and they should work with a Timing with each cylinder following and starting by TDC on #1

        I really see no need to "fund" this type of making/replication...just a nice shop and some good mechanic(s) (also an AC guy)could convert this engines in a few days...parts available though.

        This Engines could be rebuild to even better spec's...junk yards, etc,etc

        A completely looped engine...beautiful!

        I will make some diagrams and share them here.



        Kind Regards


        Ufopolitics
        Last edited by Ufopolitics; 05-12-2014, 08:59 PM.
        Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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        • #5
          Thanks Chet, Ufo
          Gene

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          • #6
            Contact

            Gents
            I will try to call Chris for more info/details .
            I see UFO post below ,I believe Chris has a variable Pulse fire system /Mod in mind for timing.

            Here is an example of some unrelated work he has been doing

            http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:ArcticTek:Chris_Hunter_(Alaska_Star)'s_A xial_Flux_Motor



            Thx
            Chet
            Last edited by RAMSET; 05-12-2014, 10:09 PM.
            If you want to Change the world
            BE that change !!

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            • #7
              Why not a Small Diesel Engine?

              Hello again,

              This are my own conclusions based on the description above...

              What I see "not inconvenient at all" is the use of a small Four Cylinder Diesel Engine...like the VW Jetta TDI or Golf 1.9 Litters (for example)...have to check if they have 180º Cranks.

              Turbo Diesel Engines are designed to work with much higher pressures (500 to 700 psi) than Gas (160-180 psi)...therefore, I see no problems for them to perform at such low pressures...they guarantee no leaks at all....but one main part I see already solved...is that we could use the BOSCH VE Diesel Pump as the Distributor for Refrigerant to fire the Four Cylinders in correct Timing that is already set from factory...?

              Got to extract the Diesel Injectors and adapt the Propane ones (Head must come off, big job)...then seal the Glow Plug holes.

              On the other end, the Turbines works from the Plenum Pipes (Inlet Manifolds) to the Exhaust Manifolds...I mean, they already "Join" in some part that "Loop" We need.

              However, to keep it simple (KIS...) a small 2 cycle , 2 piston gas engine could be MUCH easier to convert...remove small carburetor, remove one pipe exhaust...then build piping and bolting brackets...MIG Weld plates...seal them gaskets...run vacuum or pressure tests make sure no leaks, etc,etc...


              Regards


              Ufopolitics
              Last edited by Ufopolitics; 05-12-2014, 09:45 PM.
              Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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              • #8
                more to come.........

                I am corresponding with Chris

                I have invited him to assist.

                Will keep you posted.

                thx
                Chet
                If you want to Change the world
                BE that change !!

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                • #9
                  Oh!, that is awesome Chet!

                  Originally posted by RAMSET View Post
                  I am corresponding with Chris

                  I have invited him to assist.

                  Will keep you posted.

                  thx
                  Chet
                  Hello RAMSET,

                  Oh that is awesome Chet!

                  But I must admit I was wrong in my interpretation of his pdf...since I was not familiar with Liquid Propane Injectors...and they do have an open/close electronic switch, just like a Fuel Injector does...so, there was no "missing" explanation from his end...it is obvious the AC Compressor outlet goes to the Condensers then to Accumulator, then to Injectors Bank Main Line.

                  Then I realize why Chris mentions PWM or an electric motor to control sync/timing to Fire each injector in bank according to the typical engine fire order.

                  Awesome, I love this project, and so many thanks to you and to Chris for doing this!

                  I called my Ford parts guy...and FORD does not sell any Propane parts...so, this is "aftermarket" stuff...

                  The Motorcraft CM5153 that Chris is referring to:

                  [IMG][/IMG]

                  Is a typical FORD 5.4 Liters/Econoline Gasoline Fuel Injector...and that is NOT good.

                  The ones to use are:

                  [IMG][/IMG]

                  LPG Injector Kit

                  Therefore, all misunderstandings are gone now...


                  Kind Regards Friend


                  Ufopolitics
                  Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                  • #10
                    A few questions on "bar"

                    UFO
                    yes the PDF does cover that ,however a few questions have come up from Graham at Overunityresearch [thread being settup] on Pressure in the system and how it may apply to the design parameters of the mentioned injectors operating range.[back pressure]

                    Graham scratch builds ICE's in the UK,but like most of us is unfamiliar with
                    Chris's unique thoughts and hands on experience with this type system.

                    We gonna learn...........

                    Thx for your contribution,and for the record I am just a grateful messenger
                    completely dedicated to assisting true open source get out to the world
                    [like most here ]

                    This is Chris's legacy to the world [along with those who helped him]

                    more to come
                    thx
                    Chet
                    If you want to Change the world
                    BE that change !!

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                    • #11
                      Diesel to steam engine

                      This is a cut and paste from Advanced RV Research and development pdf by Hector if you look at Rudolf Diesels story you will find it similar to Stan Mayer’s .
                      DIESEL TO WATER CONVERSION
                      ALL you need to Run a car on water is a DIESEL motor 14:1 compression and a WATER injector
                      system.. as long the temperature is above 80 deg F you can operate it well. The Energy will come from
                      dry steam detonation and EXPANSION SUBLIMATION OF ICE VAPOR within exaust gases
                      (FREEZING ) . It TRANSFORMS ATSMOSPHERIC HEAT INTO ENERGY.
                      You will never see it in a GM dealer nor in this peoples hands as pictures are ENGINEERED PSY ops ..
                      WERE are the CARS ? the engines the conversion kits theory.

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                      • #12
                        Takes temperature

                        "Z"
                        Water becomes useful for combustion when high Temperature forces
                        stoichiometric state [or other methods]... as Johan_1955 has shared.

                        Yes we are getting much closer to the place we should have been 100 years ago
                        Chris has just given Us a nice reminder..........
                        a truly gifted young man with Many wonderful ideas for "efficiency" in modern times.

                        thx
                        Chet
                        If you want to Change the world
                        BE that change !!

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                        • #13
                          Nope, this is NOT!

                          Originally posted by ZeroMassInertia View Post
                          This is a cut and paste from Advanced RV Research and development pdf by Hector if you look at Rudolf Diesels story you will find it similar to Stan Mayer’s .
                          DIESEL TO WATER CONVERSION
                          ALL you need to Run a car on water is a DIESEL motor 14:1 compression and a WATER injector
                          system.. as long the temperature is above 80 deg F you can operate it well. The Energy will come from
                          dry steam detonation and EXPANSION SUBLIMATION OF ICE VAPOR within exaust gases
                          (FREEZING ) . It TRANSFORMS ATSMOSPHERIC HEAT INTO ENERGY.
                          You will never see it in a GM dealer nor in this peoples hands as pictures are ENGINEERED PSY ops ..
                          WERE are the CARS ? the engines the conversion kits theory.

                          Hello ZMI,

                          Sorry to tell you but "this ain't copy paste from anything else I have seen"...so far before.

                          Here there are absolutely "NO TANKS" to fill out...No HHO tank, No Water Tank, no fuel nor gas tanks...as also no "Exhaust Pipes"...so, nothing to fart...

                          Intake and Exhaust are on a closed loop, friend.

                          This time we will convert the farting obsolete machines to a closed loop...where they will literally "eat/swallow/inhale" a cleaner, better smelling fart, just a bit hot...


                          Regards


                          Ufopolitics
                          Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                          • #14
                            Great question...

                            Originally posted by RAMSET View Post
                            UFO
                            yes the PDF does cover that ,however a few questions have come up from Graham at Overunityresearch [thread being settup] on Pressure in the system and how it may apply to the design parameters of the mentioned injectors operating range.[back pressure]
                            Hello RAMSET,

                            Like Chris mentioned, the operating pressure is low...and the max is at 11 psi.

                            Also-as He said- every engine has different capacities/spec's in litters (US) and this has to do with the Vacuum Pressure each piston would effect at suction time into the whole system. So, every Engine Capacity needs to be filled out with refrigerant til reaching this number...and not all will take same amounts.

                            What I see on this, is to set a pressure gauge on Injectors Main Bar, then watch while running at idle, then observe how pressure comes down when slow acceleration starts. If engine starts stalling when acceleration...then we need to increase pressure to prevent "stalling from starvation" by either opening more the supply valve closer to exhaust to AC Compressor Inlet (low pressure), or the one Chris recommend at Injectors level (High Pressure)...if this does not work...then we need to fill the System with more Refrigerant.

                            This kind of testing would have to be done on each individual Engine as a final touch "Stand Tune-Up"...then later on while mounted on vehicle and standing the braking of the inertia forces load on accel.

                            Graham scratch builds ICE's in the UK,but like most of us is unfamiliar with
                            Chris's unique thoughts and hands on experience with this type system.

                            We gonna learn...........

                            Thx for your contribution,and for the record I am just a grateful messenger
                            completely dedicated to assisting true open source get out to the world
                            [like most here ]

                            This is Chris's legacy to the world [along with those who helped him]

                            more to come
                            thx
                            Chet
                            Well Chet, "unfortunately", I am pretty familiar with this stinking engines..., Unfortunately I said...cause I hate to get my hands very black greasy working on many Diesels, Turbo-Diesels, Gas, Pumps, whole engines rebuilding (as a hobbyist though)...and High Performance Racing stuff...so, I believe I could throw some ideas as well as understanding of the whole new concept Chris and You are showing here.

                            EDIT 1: On a separate note about "pressure":

                            Each Engine have their own specific cylinder compression values...we must know that...in order to "rate" all Injector Valves and Hosing to be installed, to stand direct pressure from strokes at the Intake Plenum levels. Adding the wrong LPG Injector pressure range could blow them up in first run...and refrigerant is not cheap.

                            One of the things that must be done, like in any AC System, is to run a heavy EXTERNAL Vacuum Pumping through regular AC recharging High/Low Pressure connectors to check system for leaks (if not maintaining steady measurements) and to test vacuum pressure (back pressure) capabilities.

                            We could regulate flow/pressure later on "electronically" through "AC Expansion Valves" set at each strategic points.


                            Regards


                            Ufopolitics
                            Last edited by Ufopolitics; 05-13-2014, 02:49 PM.
                            Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                            • #15
                              Sounds interesting, the perfect motor would be from a motorcycle as mentioned above you can find 2 4 and 6 cylinder version, Honda makes an opposed 6 cyl for their 1800cc motors (Goldwing). find one of those and you should have what you need for a car or generator.

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