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@cikljamas
Your responses were predicted.

Now consider the two exemplary efforts of the two school projects:

Toy Robot in Space! - HD balloon flight to 95,000ft - YouTube
and
HELLO KITTY IN SPACE - YouTube

Some conclusions might be drawn from these:

1) Helium was used to loft both cameras to ~93,000 to 95,000 ft. (Well above your cheesy lower-atmosphere aircraft photo taken at the cloud layer).

2) The helium expanded immensely at this altitude, bursting it's sole restraint (the balloon).
Look at both again to see it! Really cool! (Of course you will say that NASA later CGI'd those frames too. Poor kids! )

Your previous posts imply however, that the expanding helium, during ascent, may manifest a static 'anti-ether' bubble around the whole experiment, thus influencing the etheric medium itself to defeat the characteristic (well, for most anyway) 'gravitational' influence that, on this planet as you perceive, does not exist.

Yet, when the balloon allegedly bursts, what happens? The static ether-defeating bubble collapses, and it starts falling towards Earth again. Now, how could THAT be? Clearly, new nomenclature is required for this one: REMF (Reverse Ether Motive Force). Yeah! That works.

What a glorious descent these toys had though. All the while capturing, in elegant simplicity, the curvature of our home world for all to see during the spiral downward over and over again.

'Twas a wonderful example that reminds me of the importance of pliable perspectives during our rapid 'advancement'. [yikes!]

Sorry, but did anyone see the 400,000 mile long seawater-fall spilling her guts into the Sun's (in orbit around us?) corona during the return spiral down (or is it UP), hmm? I think not.

3) The payloads (camera, gear, and attached toys) begin their journey (falling?) BACK to Earth (needing a parachute to slow its descent, though. hmm) so that those junior mission-planner parents could take out 2nd and 3rd mortgages on their homes (either before or after) to Professionally ALTER the videos to hide the fact that their 12 year-old children (and teachers and support crew) suddenly came to the conclusion that the Earth IS once again flat! Yes, these damaged associates must be protected from the impending defamation campaign!

Sorry, our fellow humans (represented above) AND NASA playing THAT game is a stretch for me, and I'm hoping you might concede that notion!

Anecdotally:

No need to get your camera wet at the beach (boldly accusing a University of fudging the visual departure of a 100+ ft masted Clipper over the distant horizon) in lieu of these TWO examples.

And YOUR exemplary 'jets' flying low over the water at high speed!

Impressive, but come now!

I'm betting (as a pilot myself) their hands are all over those joysticks making 'minute' adjustments (as one MUST at that altitude) or God help them, they are flying on auto-pilot (radar-altimeter) to ensure things stay nice and [s]flat[/s] err ... sorry, relatively level.

Seek YOUR TRUTH! Are we round, flat, or something better?

As you cannot trust ANYONE with a camera these days, why not give those kids a call, borrow their balloon and SEE FOR YOURSELF!

Build a team! Yes, LEAD and ASSERT instead of filling your basket with suspect fruit!

Slap a GPS(.gov-owned gear though, hmm), altimeter, and supporting gear on several of them, triangulate, and prove that what those deviant children accidentally photographed - is totally wrong. Should only cost a few thousand crowd-funded dollars for a little piece-of-mind, no?

Are you ready to be the likes of Columbus all over again?

[cikljamas]

For those who are interested to see how we have refined some of our FET arguments: "Equator" problem

[cikljamas]

The view from the height of 8650 m from the ridge of Mt Everest:



On the right MAKALU (8463m - distance 12 miles)
In the back KANCHANJUNGA (8456m - distance 78 miles)

Dip for MAKALU : 29 meters
Dip for KANCHANJUNGA : 1 217 meters

HOW COME THAT KANCHANJUNGA IS AT EYE LEVEL AND ABOVE THE LEVEL OF MAKALU???

WHERE IS THE GROUND DROPPING FOR 1 217 METERS AT A DISTANCE OF KANCHANJUNGA?

Now, you eagerly want to see this video, don't you: FLAT EARTH COMPASS CONFUSION : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX1PXYThzkU

In addition:

[aljhoa]

Crux /ˈkrʌks/, located in the deep southern sky, is the smallest yet one of the most distinctive of the 88 modern constellations.
Crux - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


@cikljamas, haw meny krʌkses Shyp B & A si, respektyvly?


Al

[cikljamas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cswZ...ature=youtu.be

[aljhoa]

@cikljamas, if UN flag & spoke wheel represent FA
than what kind of Nut uses Crux-nuts for nipples?


Al

[cikljamas]

Shills never get enough of my cakes, i would say... http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum....420#.VJgN5iAA

Marry Christmas and Happy New Year!!!

Don't forget: You live on a flat earth!

[aljhoa]

Shills never get enough of my cakes, i would say... GLOBAL CONSPIRACY

Marry Christmas and Happy New Year!!!

Don't forget: You live on a flat earth!

The Earth has two celestial poles.
Your UN-Flat-Earth has only one N-pole
and at least 360 Cruxes.

Thanks for the miracle of 360 crosses
and Happy Birthday of the God Jesus.

"Once a 'Slav' always a slave."

Al

[cikljamas]

It will be interesting to see an answer to this question:

Map, Please?

On top of that:

Haven't you noticed how your friends were throughly delighted after i throw before them one wrong, but absolutely insignificant argument (which intention was nothing else but to play a little game with them)?

But why they were so delighted? Because, from the beginning of this "joke-case", they were absolutely sure that i had pulled wrong card, only they haven't had a clue why i did it! Since they thought perchance i had lost my mind, their joy was tangible, we could almost touch it. So, you should ask yourself why we couldn't have felt ever before (before i gave them this Christmas joke wrapped as a present) such a joy and delight in their words?

Because they know very well that everything else that i previously brought forward in this thread was throughly true and they also very well know that HC theory is just a big joke from bottom to top, and nothing else but a joke!

Since they have lost every single battle with me, so far, they are eager to take control over at least one thing, no matter how insignificantly this could be, no matter if it is absolutely insignificant, pure joke.

So much joy over something so insignificant is the best proof of their absolute misery, and of utter wrongness of their insane HC religion...

Why shouldn't we enhance their happiness?

Christmas' joke was about the alleged Tilt of the Earth (HC holly grail), isn't it?

So, let them read something serious about this holly grail issue:

GLOBAL CONSPIRACY

[aljhoa]

Since they have lost every single battle with me...

Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on December 26, 2014, 06:16:10 PM

I really don't understand this incessant whining for a map. Obviously maps designed for a round Earth work fine for the purposes of navigation. Obviously they accurately represent everything a map is supposed to represent, despite the fact that the Earth is flat. Why should we be expected to produce something better?

There is no evidence whatsoever for your assertion that round earthers have been "whining" for a flat earth map. We've simply asked—quite reasonably, and uncountable times—for a flat earth map. And thus far, not one flat earthers has been able to provide any sort of flat earth map.

As part of any argument in favour of your purported flat earth model, it's imperative that you provide a working map, otherwise your flat earth model is proven to be even more based on fantasy. And please don't bother regurgitating the silly UN logo thing again—as most of your peers do ad nauseam.

You somehow claim that our round earth map also accurately represents your flat earth model—which is absurd of course. The round earth map is based on non-Euclidean geometry, EG great circles, whereas you proposed but non-existent flat earth map would be based on Euclidean geometry. They can't possibly be one and the same. This seems like just another half-hearted attempt by a flat earther to explain away a lack of any working map of theirs.
Map, Please?

Herrgott cikljamas,
thank you for another miracle.
The circumferences of the Arctic and Antarctic Circles are equal on your FE map.

Al

[cikljamas]

You can easily remember my latter FET argument under this very short name:

"Drilling the tunnel below the Atlantic ocean on the spherical Earth we should go slightly downhill for the first 150 miles, then we should drill uphill for the next 1000 miles, then we should drill downhill for the next 1000 miles, and then we should drill slightly uphill for the last 150 miles, instead of drilling DOWN - STRAIGHT - UP, as any sane engineer would do in our FLAT reality!"

Reality:

RET sick wet dreams:

Something more on ocean basins - abyssal plains:

The ocean basins constitute one of the two major topographic features of Earth's surface, the other being the continents. Ocean basins occupy more than 76 percent of the total ocean area.

In contrast to the landforms of the continents so familiar to humans-features such as mountains, plateaus, hills, and rivers-the various topographic features of the ocean basins, the "oceanscape," are still not well understood by scientists. Some authorities claim that scientists know more about the surface of the Moon than they do about the ocean basins here on Earth. This situation exists because the ocean basins are thousands of meters below the water's surface, and they can be explored only with remote measuring equipment or, rarely, in special research submarines known as submersibles.

Among the things we do know about the ocean basins is that the familiar landscapes of continents are mirrored, and generally magnified, by comparable features in the ocean basin. The largest underwater mountains, for example, are higher than those on the continents, and underwater plains are flatter and more extensive than those on continents.

These "oceanscapes," at one time unseen and unknown, may resemble familiar landscapes, but on a much grander scale.

The four main ocean basins are those of the Pacific, Atlantic, Indian, and Arctic Oceans. The Pacific Ocean, which occupies about one-third of Earth's surface, has the largest basin. Its basin also has the greatest average depth at approximately 14,000 feet (4,300 meters). The Atlantic Ocean basin is half the size of that of the Pacific Ocean and is not quite as deep, averaging about 12,000 feet (3,660 meters). While slightly smaller in size than the Atlantic Ocean basin, the Indian Ocean basin sits at a lower average depth, 12,750 feet (3,885 meters). The Arctic Ocean basin is less than 10 percent the size of the Pacific Ocean basin and lies at an average depth of 3,900 feet (1,190 meters).

These areas hold the majority of the planet's water. In fact, it will help you to recall this term if you remember that a 'basin' is a large bowl, much like your kitchen sink. So, an ocean basin can be thought of as a large bowl that holds ocean water.

The sea floor is a huge flat area. Abyssal plains are the flattest places on earth.

There is no light on an abyssal plain. The temperature averages around 36 degrees Fahrenheit (2 degrees Celsius), much colder than at sea level, and atmospheric pressure is hundreds of times higher. Because there is no sunlight, plants cannot live here. The animals here eat decaying organic matter that sinks to the bottom of the ocean.

A tongue-in-cheek study a few years ago found that Kansas is flatter than a pancake. For their next work, the geographers who compared the two might want to study the ocean floor. Great stretches of it, called abyssal plains, are the flattest places on Earth.

Read more : GLOBAL CONSPIRACY





Wow, what a curvature (at eye level - 35 km above the surface of the Earth):



Allow me to repeat this remarkable sentence:

Some authorities claim that scientists know more about the surface of the Moon than they do about the ocean basins here on Earth.

Since scientists know nothing about the surface of the Moon, then you can easily guess how much they know about the ocean basins, except that they are flatter than Kansas, let alone a pancake...hahahahhaha...

Come on shills, amuse me some more...

[aljhoa]

at
GLOBAL CONSPIRACY
We know that the general shape of the surface of the Earth is flat and we have proved it beyond any reasonable doubt!

Amazing Earth "w/o Stars" - Time lapse sequences of photographs taken by the crew of expeditions
28 & 29 onboard the International Space Station from August to October,
2011, who to my knowledge shot these pictures at an altitude of around 350 km.

Shooting locations in order of appearance:

1. Aurora Borealis Pass over the United States at Night
2. Aurora Borealis and eastern United States at Night
3. Aurora Australis from Madagascar to southwest of Australia
4. Aurora Australis south of Australia
5. Northwest coast of United States to Central South America at Night
6. Aurora Australis from the Southern to the Northern Pacific Ocean
7. Halfway around the World
8. Night Pass over Central Africa and the Middle East
9. Evening Pass over the Sahara Desert and the Middle East
10. Pass over Canada and Central United States at Night
11. Pass over Southern California to Hudson Bay
12. Islands in the Philippine Sea at Night
13. Pass over Eastern Asia to Philippine Sea and Guam
14. Views of the Mideast at Night
15. Night Pass over Mediterranean Sea
16. Aurora Borealis and the United States at Night
17. Aurora Australis over Indian Ocean
18. Eastern Europe to Southeastern Asia at Night


Al

[aljhoa]

26158 Views on Feb. 14, 2014

The Foucault Pendulum remains the only "proof" for a rotating earth. (in 21th century!!!) - cikljamas


Citizen presents Chasing Horizons


Al

[aljhoa]

26158 Views on Feb. 14, 2015

32961 Views on April 22, 2015

Horizontal line is a "hula-hoop" where its diameter is a function of eyes-location.

Climbing 1500' TV Tower https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1BgzIZRfT8

Al

[Raphael37]

The Earth has two celestial poles.
Your UN-Flat-Earth has only one N-pole
and at least 360 Cruxes.

Thanks for the miracle of 360 crosses
and Happy Birthday of the God Jesus.

"Once a 'Slav' always a slave."

Al

aljihoa you are suggesting that clkjames theory about a flat earth is based on a particular religious POV?