Single Shot CDI

[Aaron]

CDI Question - Does anyone know who makes a CDI that is only a SINGLE discharge per trigger? All I can find anymore is all the multiple spark discharge models. I need a single event per trigger. Thanks!

[pmazz850]

Arron,
Look up Dynatek cdi units. They make single and double fire units.

[mikrovolt]

to fire one time per trigger usually 1.5 V applied to the gate of an SCR.
I see the BT151 is popular with washer launchers ect.
it is possible to run them in parallel since the giant SCR (thyristors) are expensive.
Depending on the application and the need for more current. here is one data sheet:

https://www.futurlec.com/Diodes/S6020Lpr.shtml

[Les Banki]

CDI Question - Does anyone know who makes a CDI that is only a SINGLE discharge per trigger? All I can find anymore is all the multiple spark discharge models. I need a single event per trigger. Thanks!

Hi Aaron,

Below is the link to my Dropbox Folder and the 'checksum' for the WFGP (Water Fueled Generator Project) which contains the kind of CDI design you are after.

The information is COMPLETE with circuit diagrams, detailed circuit descriptions and pcb layouts in the original Protel (PFW) format for board manufacturing.

Shortly, there will be a second Dropbox link published for project updates (mainly photos) as the work progresses (rapidly).
(Note that this project is in its final stages with only the making of the electrolyzer and engine modifications remaining.)

http://goo.gl/ZgF7aS

#md5#LB_WFGP-Feb 2014.zip#2014.03.05@10.51:16
5240ca6b8faaef973486f41ccf661875 *LB_WFGP-Feb 2014.zip

Cheers,
Les Banki

[BroMikey]

Hello Les B

Hi Aaron,

Below is the link to my Dropbox Folder and the 'checksum' for the WFGP (Water Fueled Generator Project) which contains the kind of CDI design you are after.

The information is COMPLETE with circuit diagrams, detailed circuit descriptions and pcb layouts in the original Protel (PFW) format for board manufacturing.

Shortly, there will be a second Dropbox link published for project updates (mainly photos) as the work progresses (rapidly).
(Note that this project is in its final stages with only the making of the electrolyzer and engine modifications remaining.)

http://goo.gl/ZgF7aS

#md5#LB_WFGP-Feb 2014.zip#2014.03.05@10.51:16
5240ca6b8faaef973486f41ccf661875 *LB_WFGP-Feb 2014.zip

Cheers,
Les Banki

Hey Les good to hear from ya these days.

I still have your pwm3 channel circuits. I use to go by ELECTROGASMAN but changed to BROMIKEY.

I know you have been running engines on water for years.

Keep up the great work and thanks for sharing everything.

Michael Rowland (Central Kansas)

[Les Banki]

Hi Michael,

Oh yes, I remember you well and I suspected it was you under that new name!

Small world, isn't it?

Perhaps you recall that I designed that 3 frequency PWM purely as an engineering challenge to replace Bob Boyce's circuit which was almost impossible to tune!

I have come a long way since and things are a LOT simpler!

Despite some opinions to the contrary, there is NO NEED for fancy circuits!
Just study my current design and you will see what I mean.

To give you an idea, I am expecting the current generator (rated 7kW, continuous) project to use approx. 2-2.4kW to run itself with 4-5kW left over to run external load!!

Cheers,
Les Banki

[BroMikey]

Hi Michael,

Oh yes, I remember you well and I suspected it was you under that new name!

Small world, isn't it?

Perhaps you recall that I designed that 3 frequency PWM purely as an engineering challenge to replace Bob Boyce's circuit which was almost impossible to tune!

I have come a long way since and things are a LOT simpler!

Despite some opinions to the contrary, there is NO NEED for fancy circuits!
Just study my current design and you will see what I mean.

To give you an idea, I am expecting the current generator (rated 7kW, continuous) project to use approx. 2-2.4kW to run itself with 4-5kW left over to run external load!!

Cheers,
Les Banki

I will Les

Iread a bunch last night with excitement sending this info around to family. My brother has installed 3 large crown vic police car alternators on his geo tracker this week and has a 120 pack.

We are in need of your inspiration as we must go without to go forward with this work. Gotta git right now but I will talk again soon.

Michael

[BroMikey]

Reading Up

Hi Michael,

Oh yes, I remember you well and I suspected it was you under that new name!

Small world, isn't it?

Perhaps you recall that I designed that 3 frequency PWM purely as an engineering challenge to replace Bob Boyce's circuit which was almost impossible to tune!

I have come a long way since and things are a LOT simpler!

Despite some opinions to the contrary, there is NO NEED for fancy circuits!
Just study my current design and you will see what I mean.

To give you an idea, I am expecting the current generator (rated 7kW, continuous) project to use approx. 2-2.4kW to run itself with 4-5kW left over to run external load!!

Cheers,
Les Banki

Hey Les

I have been doing more reading and see some of your circuits to control everything, super job, awesome collection of ideas. You are a real thinker.

I read up at the pesn site to where you were talking about getting the right pneumatic or gaseous fuel injector and how liquid injectors differ.

Running low pressure say 5 psi with keep the molecule from transitioning back to another form. Getting the HHO gas right into the cylinder so the HHO does not just disappear laying around the intake manifold is very important.

I heard where if injectors were not possible that a tiny hole could be drilled in the manifold right over top of each intake valve will help immensely.

So many other important factors also that you keep pointing out all seem to be ignored by the average shade tree mechanic that will run tests and just walk away thinking that he could never run a car on less than 200 LPM.

It is far and few between hearing anyone talk about HHO running an engine that can address the challenges associated with doing it.

Bent plates with tap water and hot steam pouring out of cell going to an out of time engine can only pose a danger to the unsuspecting back yard skeptic.

Every one I know says it can't be done and I tell them that they are full of beans. I won't back down on that. The reason folks can't run engines on HHO and water mist is because most of what has been shown as an example is incorrect.

Thanks for leading the way for the lesser who are unable to rise to this task.

Michael Rowland

(Central Kansas)

[Les Banki]

Hi Michael,

I am glad you find it all interesting.
Just wait till you get into more details!

The article you read at pesn originated at the "watercarTWO" Forum which was created by Michael Couch.
I wrote it for that Forum and posted it there.
Michael Couch created a document from it and gave it to Sterling A. to publish on peswiki.

By the way, that article is available as a document in my collection with the name: "LesBankioninjection1.doc".

As I have stated and repeated MANY times, there are only TWO key elements to run ICE on HydrOxy - enough gas and engine management!

What is "engine management"?

Correct ignition timing and fuel (HydrOxy) delivery!


However, most people don't know that with CORRECT engine management gas demand falls to an all time low!!

Cheers,
Les Banki

[BroMikey]

I totally Agree

Hi Michael,

I am glad you find it all interesting.
Just wait till you get into more details!

The article you read at pesn originated at the "watercarTWO" Forum which was created by Michael Couch.
I wrote it for that Forum and posted it there.
Michael Couch created a document from it and gave it to Sterling A. to publish on peswiki.

By the way, that article is available as a document in my collection with the name: "LesBankioninjection1.doc".

As I have stated and repeated MANY times, there are only TWO key elements to run ICE on HydrOxy - enough gas and engine management!

What is "engine management"?

Correct ignition timing and fuel (HydrOxy) delivery!


However, most people don't know that with CORRECT engine management gas demand falls to an all time low!!

Cheers,
Les Banki

Hey Les

Here are a few pictures of a gaseous fuel rail but I think they still run 100 psi?

BroMikey's Science Projects

I am compiling to my website.

Mike

[Les Banki]

Hi Michael and ALL who read here,

Due to feedback at overunity.com Forum ("Selfrunning HHO system with additional 400W output") it was discovered that ALL circuit diagram files (.pdf) are MISSING from my Dropbox Folder!

Some people have suggested that perhaps all files should be displayed on the Forum for everyone to see!

As a "quick fix", I have attached the 14 missing files to two posts there.

I will create an additional Dropbox Folder (and link) for the 14 circuit diagram files.

Cheers,
Les Banki

[Les Banki]

OK guys,

It is all done!
Here is the link to that additional Dropbox Folder (and its 'checksum') which contains all 14 circuit diagram files!

http://goo.gl/8zY8Um

#md5#WFGPsch.zip#2014.06.16@12.58:54
3f00292dfc1a630f047b705e0dc6192d *WFGPsch.zip

Cheers,
Les Banki

[BroMikey]

Goodie pile

OK guys,

It is all done!
Here is the link to that additional Dropbox Folder (and its 'checksum') which contains all 14 circuit diagram files!

http://goo.gl/8zY8Um

#md5#WFGPsch.zip#2014.06.16@12.58:54
3f00292dfc1a630f047b705e0dc6192d *WFGPsch.zip

Cheers,
Les Banki

You know are right there when the goodies come around. Thanks Les


Mike