Radiant Energy and Actual Results?

[Aaron]

venturi effect?

What I believe is happening is that when the spike collapses it creates a sort of vacuum in the battery being charged and that vacuum literally sucks energy from the earth.

Hi Kevin,

This is what I think is happening too.

The Aether is blasting from the coil through the diode to the + on the battery you're charging...as it moves by the diode from the ground rod, it is like a venturi effect that pulls Aether from the ground rod through the diode into the battery + that is being charged.

[Kevin]

Kevin, have you tried the superpole setup? I mean when there are two magnets glued together N side facing the other N side? That is what John Bedini uses in his setups. This config is supposed to increase the efficiency

Jetijs,

I did not know it was called the superpole setup.

This was also in the TRV data on how to improve my SG charger. At the time we got information via TRV to doublestack the magnets with north's facing each other, this was something that John has only been doing for a little while and he had not published it anywhere.

Of course, it is old news now.

It definitely improved my SG quite a bit when I started doing that....if I remember correctly, I instituted that change at the same time that I went to two circuits on one coil, and that is when I crossed above COP 1.0.

[Jetijs]

Nice
Thanks Kevin
I today I upgraded my SSG rotor to a superpole setup and I must say, that it looks like the charging is faster with the same power input. I cant be certain yet, because I need to do some testing, but it looks promising. I will just add the ground wire and the diode and see what happens
Thank you one more time

[Kevin]

@Kevin: I've been meaning to ask: Is your setup the one that uses capacitors for charging on the back end, and are you able to swap batteries from the back end to the front end if it isn't (i.e., more or less stock SSG)?

I do not use capacitors, and perhaps I should not rotate my batteries from what has been said here.

Since we can measure the work leaving the primary battery with traditional measuring devices, I have never really cared how fast they discharged (though they do not seem to discharge unreasonably fast). What I have always been much more concerned with is the comparison of the work used to power the unit and the work the charging batteries are able to produce as a result.

As a side note-for over a year I was in a living situation where I had to position a wireless repeater in a location where there was no electrical outlet. I used deep cycle marine batteries and an inverter. Prior to using batteries charged with my unit, they were lasting about 2 days between conventional charges. When I started using the same batteries (not the same model, but the EXACT SAME Batteries) that had been charged and conditioned with my SG unit, they last 4-4.5 days between charges.

[Shamus]

@Kevin: So you are rotating your batteries on your setup. If it's been working for you, I can't imagine why certain people (who shall not be named ) would tell you that you can't do it with that setup. It doesn't make any sense to me. And of course when you ask about it, all you get is the stock 'we don't answer questions like those on this list'.

Ok, one more stupid question than I'll shaddap. With the 'superpole' setup, how do you orient the magnets on the rotor? Do you just stack them as you normally would with one north facing the outside of the rotor and one facing in, or do you orient the magnetic "sandwich" so that the plane where the norths meet faces outward?

[Ted Ewert]

Plane of the "sandwich" out is the correct way. The two north poles are squirting out the middle of the sandwich.

@Kevin: So you are rotating your batteries on your setup. If it's been working for you, I can't imagine why certain people (who shall not be named ) would tell you that you can't do it with that setup. It doesn't make any sense to me. And of course when you ask about it, all you get is the stock 'we don't answer questions like those on this list'.

Ok, one more stupid question than I'll shaddap. With the 'superpole' setup, how do you orient the magnets on the rotor? Do you just stack them as you normally would with one north facing the outside of the rotor and one facing in, or do you orient the magnetic "sandwich" so that the plane where the norths meet faces outward?

[elias]

@Kevin: So you are rotating your batteries on your setup. If it's been working for you, I can't imagine why certain people (who shall not be named ) would tell you that you can't do it with that setup. It doesn't make any sense to me. And of course when you ask about it, all you get is the stock 'we don't answer questions like those on this list'.

Ok, one more stupid question than I'll shaddap. With the 'superpole' setup, how do you orient the magnets on the rotor? Do you just stack them as you normally would with one north facing the outside of the rotor and one facing in, or do you orient the magnetic "sandwich" so that the plane where the norths meet faces outward?

In fact you can imagine holding the end of the water hose with your thumb to increase the pressure of the water.
Doing this with magnets make the fluid (which behaves like water) to increase pressure between.

[Ted Ewert]

In fact you can imagine holding the end of the water hose with your thumb to increase the pressure of the water.
Doing this with magnets make the fluid (which behaves like water) to increase pressure between.

You can also bond your magnets with a slight gap on one side. This will further direct the flux in a direction towards the gap. The gap would be "V" shaped. The size of the gap and the angle it creates will give a variety of results. This would be a good experiment.

Cheers.

Ted

[Aaron]

opposing magnets

In fact you can imagine holding the end of the water hose with your thumb to increase the pressure of the water.
Doing this with magnets make the fluid (which behaves like water) to increase pressure between.

Elias, I love the analogy. Water pressure and air pressure in pipes, etc... are the analogies that I always use because they are more accurate in describing the characteristics of these things. You painted the perfect picture.

I'll post a simple diagram.

[Aaron]

opposing magnets on rotor

If someone wants to send me a pretty picture of this, I'll upload it and replace this one with it. Hopefully, this shows the idea.

The switching is faster on an SG with this method because the opposing N field in between pushing out and interacting with the coil is narrower. Stronger but narrower.

[Kevin]

Just saw Aaron's post above of the magnet configuration and called him because I thought it was wrong.

Apparently this is how the "superpole" setup is supposed to be.

This is NOT how I set mine up.

I am going to dig through some files to verify how mine was set up, but I am 99.99% sure it was not this way.


As a note of explanation. I did all my work on the island of Maui. I have since moved back to the mainland and have not unpacked any of my SG stuff yet (records, pictures, parts etc.).

Further, when I was doing all my work on Maui the only websites I ever visited were the peswiki site and John Bedini's Icehouse site...and I have not looked at either of those sites in close to 3 years. So I am not familiar with the other sites being mentioned.

[Aaron]

magnet configuration

Kevin,

I'm very curious to see a test of this 'intended' configuration and the one you described even if you did it the 'intended' way. Will chat with you about it later.

[Jetijs]

Hi all,
Yesterday I tried out the circuit below. Basically it is something like the Bedini solid state oscillator. I used relay for switching and a basic 555 timer to pulse the relay. I had two pots to control the frequency and duty cycles of the impulses. The goal was to charge the coil to create a big electromagnet with a big field around it. And when the relay breaks the circuit, the fields energy of EMF wont have anywhere to go, except the + terminal of the battery thus charging it. I thought that by adding the ground wire with a diode like Kevin said, should make the battery to charge up. I had no ground wire so I simply made the circuit run without the ground and see what will happen. That is something like Ricks selfrunner. The voltages on the battery were jumping from 12.50 to 13.50 V (the resting voltage was about 12.5). But the battery did go down slowly. Then I placed a second battery in the system, like in the basic SSG circuit, to see if that battery will charge faster than the primary battery discharges. Also no luck this time, maybe because the batteries were not conditioned or maybe because the ground wire was not attached. But I noticed an interesting effect. I tried three different coils with the welding rods as a core. At first I tried a coil with about 2000 windings of gauge 21 wire. The resistance of this coil was 10 Ohms. When the circuit was switched on, the charging battery started to charge petty fast to a certain voltage (12.8) and then slowed down. The amp draw form the primary battery was about 90mA. Then I switched the coil for another one. This coil was a trifilar coil with 500 windings of gauge 24 wire and both ends of the coils were connected together, I mean the three coils were in parallel. That way the resistance of the coil was only 1.2 Ohms. When I switched the circuit on, the charging battery went to 14.5v very fast, in about 1 minute and then slowly started to decrease. But also the primary battery went down pretty fast as the amp draw was much bigger. But the interesting thing is that there was a much bigger field around the coil and at the ends of the coil core. I held a screwdriver in my hand and it vibrated in my hand about 2 inches from the core. The field was much bigger than with the coil with higher resistance. Also I made an experiment when I put two mumetal plates on both ends of the coils core. By doing that I retained much of the field in the coil, this decreased the amp draw from the primary, but also decreased the charging effect. That's why Peter Lindemann says, that by folding the magnetic field around the coil, we get more torque but less charging. I will try this simple circuit on conditioned batteries and with a grounding wire and the diode attached. Maybe these observations will help someone

[Jetijs]

Kevin, have you verified that Aarons magnet config was not right? Because I tested the superpole setup like in Aarons picture and did not get improved results. Yesterday I spent all night soldering the 6 transistor circuit for my SSG. I will use two trifilar coils. One strand of one coil will be used for triggering and the other five left strands will be used as power coils. I have still one transistor left unused, I think I will also use my recovery coil as a power coil so I will be using all the transistors. Just got the setup up and running. Will see if I get improved results. Later I will add the ground wire with the diode.
One more question for Kevin, can you tell me more about that ground testing you did? Did you simply put both leads of the voltmeter in the ground near each other and did get those voltages? Because by doing so I am not getting anything, maybe 0.01 - 0.02V.
Thanks

[elias]

Superpole

Jetijs,

I personally think that a super pole is formed by pushing two identical magnets side by side, where the norths are pushing against each other as well as the souths. The sharp norths and souths flow directly between and can be indicated by using a compass.

This is what I concluded from Bedini's explanations.
In Aaron's drawings the souths may interfere with your motor's operation and may not let the repulsion occur correctly.

Elias