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  • #16
    Originally posted by Dog-One View Post
    BTW, that article you did on "C.A.R.D.", it beats even the strategy used by many big corporations. Good stuff there. All bases covered. I need to incorporate some virtualization addendums to it, since that is all I use anymore.

    what article what what what???? There are SO MANY


    NO IDEA

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    • #17
      Originally posted by TheoriaApophasis View Post
      what article what what what???? There are SO MANY

      NO IDEA
      You must have done a brain dump. hehe.

      https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-6031

      "compartmentalized autonomous redundancy of data"

      Simply Excellent!


      Anyway, back to the fun stuff. Video #60 you say...

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Dog-One View Post
        You must have done a brain dump. hehe.

        https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-6031

        "compartmentalized autonomous redundancy of data"

        Simply Excellent!


        Anyway, back to the fun stuff. Video #60 you say...



        Ohh yes yes , yup. Lack of sleep, I forgot!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by TheoriaApophasis View Post
          I know Ive seen the quote in the book TESLA SAID and one other place, I cannot recall.


          Ive been killing myself in experiments and discoveries, and I proved two of my formulas tonight alone, I would celebrate but its too late, TOMORROW


          also I have about 60 more pages for the new book to crank out, I have SO MUCH to add, just TONS.
          I wanted to say hello and make a comment with due respect.
          Alot of your work after a month or so ends up on the back pages is difficult to refer back to. Your style is sometimes abstract but the content is deep.
          I would like to see more examples of how nuts and bolts projects relate and assist in developing concept so I would be inclined to take a closer look and see how I could use it more. thanks Joe

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          • #20
            Originally posted by mikrovolt View Post
            I wanted to say hello and make a comment with due respect.
            Alot of your work after a month or so ends up on the back pages is difficult to refer back to. Your style is sometimes abstract but the content is deep.
            Due to too many years of translating and reading Prakrit and translating Pali and ancient Sanskrit and Greek, and reading way too much (never too much) Plotinus.

            I live in a whole other area and time of thinking and methodology which is not inductive or deductive, but retroductive in premise for discovery.

            A genuine eccentric 'weirdo' that gets results.

            Originally posted by mikrovolt View Post
            I would like to see more examples of how nuts and bolts projects relate and assist in developing concept so I would be inclined to take a closer look and see how I could use it more. thanks Joe

            Im working on same, but I have promises to bring out a 3rd edition of the book here very soon, and there a MOUNTAIN of stuff to add, and just piles and piles for even a 4th edition.


            not to mention too many experiments to mention, and some I wont mention yet, including a few high potential patents, especially a new nanoparticle suspension which gives you a 25+ second "tornado in a bottle" effect that is just lovely.


            My premise is (as was Teslas who got it from R. Boskovich,.... and the Greeks) that tinkering with X (magnetism) for example, cannot be done intelligent unless one grasps the ENTIRE FIELD and its nature and attributes fully.


            I claim that intelligent manipulation of magnetism in devices requires an absolute grasp of how "magnets" (so-called) work, why etc etc etc ,.....and that currently, until now, did not exist.


            As is typical of humanity, we have magnets in a billion devices, and we know how to EXPLOIT them, but we havent barely a clue how they 'tick' or what makes them tick, etc etc etc.


            Ive made 62 videos in just one month,....I have at least 100 more to make, including biological experiments I keep resetting that have some stunning resultants.

            Its just endless. Which is both good and bad.

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            • #21
              how they work

              Originally posted by TheoriaApophasis View Post

              I claim that intelligent manipulation of magnetism in devices requires an absolute grasp of how "magnets" (so-called) work, why etc etc etc ,.....and that currently, until now, did not exist.
              It is remarkable how well you grasp the working of magnets but are unable to express your understanding in usable terms. I don't call your work fee Cs, because I don't have the mental ability to judge what it is. It be as it is.

              Were I to regard this thread as an introduction to your writings, I would be convinced to avoid the task of trying to understand it. I have some remaining curiosity in connection with your works, but I don't see how I would be able to apply it. I wish you the best and hope you come up with a simplified version at some future point in time.
              There is a reason why science has been successful and technology is widespread. Don't be afraid to do the math and apply the laws of physics.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by wayne.ct View Post
                It is remarkable how well you grasp the working of magnets but are unable to express your understanding in usable terms. I don't call your work fee Cs, because I don't have the mental ability to judge what it is. It be as it is.

                Were I to regard this thread as an introduction to your writings, I would be convinced to avoid the task of trying to understand it. I have some remaining curiosity in connection with your works, but I don't see how I would be able to apply it. I wish you the best and hope you come up with a simplified version at some future point in time.

                I have 5 ongoing experiments, 3 with HIGH results, and 2 DONE experiments seeking (via my associate) potential patent.

                Denotatively , that is "usable".


                Some however arent trying to get rich, I retired at age 32, and am in love with PURE DISCOVERY BOTH AS MEANS AND ENDS



                The 3rd edition will explain MUCH MORE in MUCH detail.

                There is a mountain to add.





                “There are only four types of people in the world regarding discovery and invention:
                The most common are those who watch and observe, and profit from invention and discovery; are intrigued by its discoveries.
                The second most common are those who dissuade others from invention and discovery, and try to prevent them both mentally and physically from discovery claiming: ‘this can lead to nowhere’, or ‘that course is a dead end, there is nothing there.’
                The third most common are greedy and lustful inventors who desire only fame, profit, and acclaim, nothing matters but any angle that can be exploited to be used to exploit others for their own ends. Discovery is not an ends to these people, only a means to exploit others.
                The fourth, and most rare are those who do not care about the first three types of people; these rare few have a vision or visions and are hell-bent to uncover the mysteries of the universe, not out of desire for profit or fame or empirical motives, but the only pure, noble, and righteous intent, that being pure discovery and understanding as its own ends. The expansion of comprehension and wisdom”. – Author


                FM below stands for FIELD MOVEMENT

                AM for APPARENT MOVEMENT


                D = divergence

                C = convergence


                Ergo, this is ONLY ONE vector below, not both shown. ...........and hence the SPATIAL CONFUSION others (almost everyone really) have.

                P1 = pole one

                P2 = pole two



                both pics are same from diff. angles




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                • #23
                  Originally posted by wayne.ct View Post
                  It is remarkable how well you grasp the working of magnets but are unable to express your understanding in usable terms.

                  I wish you the best and hope you come up with a simplified version at some future point in time.

                  Simplified theory you will find here
                  http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...mer-field.html
                  whereas Ken seems to have the solid theory.

                  Al

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
                    Simplified theory you will find here
                    http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...mer-field.html
                    whereas Ken seems to have the solid theory.

                    Al



                    those well made video are so ripe with errors it makes me want to beat my head against a wall.


                    It makes NO claim to the fact that magnetism isnt driving a magnet or its magnetism

                    it makes NO statement about dielectricity

                    it makes no mention about WHY their "bowl shaped" large magnets do anything, and has no theory as to magneto-dielectric field dynamics


                    If them put 5% effort into grasping things as they spent on making those fancy videos......... uggh.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by TheoriaApophasis View Post
                      It makes NO claim to the fact that magnetism isnt driving a magnet or its magnetism

                      it makes NO statement about dielectricity

                      it makes no mention about WHY their "bowl shaped" large magnets do anything, and has no theory as to magneto-dielectric field dynamics





                      Al
                      Last edited by aljhoa; 08-12-2014, 01:20 PM.

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                      • #26
                        @TA
                        I did not mean by the title that there IS NO "instantaneous action at a distance (within fields)" Of course there is, within fields 'instant action at a distance' without propagation speeds
                        I think the problem with instantaneous action at a distance is that if it was in fact instantaneous then by definition it could never be measured as a function of time. So we are left with the notion that one thing which has happened here has led to something happening over there with no apparent connection between the two. Which begs the question, are they directly connected events or have we just imagined they are?.

                        I understand this is all fun to imagine and dream of possible applications however Dollard's work may be a good example. Writing book after book of "how it is" and yet decades later I have yet to see any real practical applications which I consider to have real value. I understand that it feels like progress is being made however real progress is always tangible, it is that thing working right in front of all of us which has value. It is not writing 100 books on how it is which nobody can seem to understand and has no practical application in the foreseeable future if ever.

                        I hope I don't sound to critical but I have been down this road more than a few times and it seldom ends well. As such I have tempered my expectations to some extent and try to build simple things that work better. It's not nearly as much fun but it is real and in this day and age we need all the reality we can get our hands on, we have big problems and few solutions. We live in the age of hype which seems to be much ado about nothing.

                        I have a theory, when the power goes out the one's who have what it takes will be the one's with their lights on.

                        Best of luck
                        AC
                        Last edited by Allcanadian; 08-12-2014, 04:22 PM.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Allcanadian View Post
                          @TA


                          I think the problem with instantaneous action at a distance is that if it was in fact instantaneous then by definition it could never be measured as a function of time. So we are left with the notion that one thing which has happened here has led to something happening over there with no apparent connection between the two. Which begs the question, are they directly connected events or have we just imagined they are?.

                          I understand this is all fun to imagine and dream of possible applications however Dollard's work may be a good example. Writing book after book of "how it is" and yet decades later I have yet to see any real practical applications which I consider to have real value. I understand that it feels like progress is being made however real progress is always tangible, it is that thing working right in front of all of us which has value. It is not writing 100 books on how it is which nobody can seem to understand and has no practical application in the foreseeable future if ever.

                          I hope I don't sound to critical but I have been down this road more than a few times and it seldom ends well. As such I have tempered my expectations to some extent and try to build simple things that work better. It's not nearly as much fun but it is real and in this day and age we need all the reality we can get our hands on, we have big problems and few solutions. We live in the age of hype which seems to be much ado about nothing.

                          I have a theory, when the power goes out the one's who have what it takes will be the one's with their lights on.

                          Best of luck
                          AC



                          PURE UNDERSTANDING both as means and ENDS are some peoples only motives.



                          Not to get rich etc. I have a few amazing experiments getting great results, however they are not in power generation, but in other areas.


                          Soon humans however will realize that a prime move can be replaced with field distortion and harvest the results.


                          That is all I would say on the matter.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Allcanadian View Post
                            @TA
                            I think the problem with instantaneous action at a distance is that if it was in fact instantaneous then by definition it could never be measured as a function of time. So we are left with the notion that one thing which has happened here has led to something happening over there with no apparent connection between the two
                            AC

                            This is true, empirical beings are living "in the ass" of fields. Space and time. We perceive something happening in time when in fact were are seeing rates of inductions between fields of which these are translational into time components.


                            Even the very NATURE of electrification is just ripe with fallacies of what is going on.


                            moving a stationary magnet which ALWAYS and EVER has spinning reciprocating magnetic fields and then taking the physical object and ROTATING it in space and time.


                            thereby COMPOUNDING what is already existent by adding a spatial and temporal vector and cause electrification against a dielectric reflector ("conductor")



                            As for "PRACTICAL", the world needs more PURE genuine comprehension of how fields work, etc etc rather than pure mindless tinkering.


                            Pure deep comprehension of these Ether field modalities will reap results, far quicker than tinkering for "the hell of it" will produce results


                            It can and does, but both components are needed.

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                            • #29
                              Exactly

                              Originally posted by TheoriaApophasis View Post
                              Pure deep comprehension of these Ether field modalities will reap results, far quicker than tinkering for "the hell of it" will produce results
                              I have been saying this same thing for a long time now.

                              Originally posted by TheoriaApophasis View Post
                              Soon humans however will realize that a prime move can be replaced with field distortion and harvest the results.
                              Which is exactly what Don Smith said, even after his stroke. This being so fundamental not even a dead man could forget it.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Allcanadian View Post
                                @TA


                                I think the problem with instantaneous action at a distance is that if it was in fact instantaneous then by definition it could never be measured as a function of time. So we are left with the notion that one thing which has happened here has led to something happening over there with no apparent connection between the two. Which begs the question, are they directly connected events or have we just imagined they are?.

                                I understand this is all fun to imagine and dream of possible applications however Dollard's work may be a good example. Writing book after book of "how it is" and yet decades later I have yet to see any real practical applications which I consider to have real value. I understand that it feels like progress is being made however real progress is always tangible, it is that thing working right in front of all of us which has value. It is not writing 100 books on how it is which nobody can seem to understand and has no practical application in the foreseeable future if ever.

                                I hope I don't sound to critical but I have been down this road more than a few times and it seldom ends well. As such I have tempered my expectations to some extent and try to build simple things that work better. It's not nearly as much fun but it is real and in this day and age we need all the reality we can get our hands on, we have big problems and few solutions. We live in the age of hype which seems to be much ado about nothing.

                                I have a theory, when the power goes out the one's who have what it takes will be the one's with their lights on.

                                Best of luck
                                AC
                                Freaking love and miss you man. Always spot on. Hope all is well in your world. Give me a call sometime...ill pm you my new phone number.

                                Andrew Manrique

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