TinMan's inertia drive RFDD Project

[TheoriaApophasis]

@TA
I think that's kind of like the chicken/egg dilema... is there a field in space or space in the field. It depends on one's perspective I guess, mine is the one below.
AC

Co-eternal conjugates, inseparable principle(polarized field)-attribute(space)



differentiating EITHER in itself is like cutting "the illumination out of the light"


obviously an impossibility.

[RAMSET]

taking shape

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63yJ...5GsZGLcj2rm-4w

TinMan
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Lets look at my rough sketch below,and asume that it is opperating in space.With out the 4 balls in place,once the flywheel (if we want to call it that)is up to motor running speed,only the energy required to spin the motor is required-no extra energy is required to keep the flywheel running at a constant speed. Now we add the 4 1kg balls,but still no extra energy is required to keep the flywheel spinning at that constant speed-BUT we now have four 1kg balls exerting a force against the rim of the flywheel. So we have added force without increasing the primary force which created these 4 extra forces in the first place.

Now lets have a look at my even rougher second sketch. We now have an offset in the flywheel that carries these 4 balls that create these 4 extra forces.If we take a momentary snapshot of the rotating flywheel(as the sketch shows),we can see that balls 1 and 2 are following a smaller orbit than that of balls 3 and 4.So at this very instant(as depicted)we have an offset of force which would give us an inertial unidirectional force that flows in the direction from center of motor shaft,through the center of balls 3 and 4.Now what if it were possable to keep that elliptical orbit shape of the flywheel while it rotated,and used only the rotational power of the motor to keep the elliptical shape of the flywheel,so as an equal and opposite force was not required to pull balls 3 and 4 back into a smaller orbit like balls 1 and 2. So if we look at sketch two,and picture it rotating in the depicted elliptical orbit,we can see that we would have a greater force in one direction.

So how can this be done.Well as i stated above(first paragraph),4 extra large forces can be applied to a system that are at a 90* angle to that of the force that gives them creation(motor rotation).The very opposite can be used in that,we can add a force (load) to the motor and remove the 4 extra forces created by the 4 ball's.This is the force we use to increase and decrease the orbit path of the 4 balls,so as they follow the elliptical orbit path. Now i know you are going to ask-what stops the motor spinning insted of the orbiting balls. Well thats an easy fix. We simply have a second unit bolted ontop of the first unit,but this is a counter rotating unit,and all rotation by the motors is canceled out.The thing to remember here is,we only have to reduce that opposite force by 1%(or less) to achieve a net force in one direction.

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thanks for looking
Chet

[TheoriaApophasis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63yJ...5GsZGLcj2rm-4w

TinMan
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Ask TINMAN if he realizes those angles are the SAME ONES in my formula for reciprocation

[Allcanadian]

@Ramset
I have been down this road before and it seldom ends well. Fundamentally the assumptions drawn from the first picture are flawed because it amounts to an overbalanced wheel running in reverse.

Note in the picture that mass B2 moves to position B3 in an increasing radius which denotes an acceleration force which translates directly to the center of rotation ... equal and opposite. The acceleration of the mass left to right (B2 to B3) is matched by an opposite force at the center of rotation acting right to left cancelling the centrifugal forces evolving at B3. Adding more wheels to dampen the torque at the axle does not change the fact that the primary forces are equal and opposite in nature.

It is not unlike a similar problem which is abstract in it's nature.
I have a bowling ball and a ball of identical size made of cork and drop them from the same elevation and they strike the ground at the same time. Now the Force of Gravity equation is Force = mass x g(9.81m/s^2) so why doesn't the heavier mass fall faster as the force due to g is greater?.

Well the heavier mass does experience a greater force due to gravity however the heavier mass also has more inertia due to it's heavier mass. An inertial force resists changes in acceleration and the accelerating force is gravity and as it turns out the inertial force resisting the accelertion due to gravity balances perfectly thus both balls fall at the same velocity and hit the ground at the same time.

Here we should understand that Force, Acceleration and Velocity are not the same thing and we can have many active forces present within a singular body.

AC

[RAMSET]

multi tasking....

There is probably a topic here somewhere for Gutoluc's old thread [i will try to find it]
however the TinMan is also helping Luc qualify his new design

here

Mostly Permanent Magnet Motor with minimal Input Power

and its quite interesting !!


thx
For looking

Chet

[TheoriaApophasis]

here:

[Allcanadian]

@TA
I like where your going and that is a wonderful picture however it seems all to human from my perspective. Consider that in nature there are no straight lines and there are no circles there are spheres. This of course relates to the human condition where we tend to straighten any curves and cram a three dimensional world into a two dimensional picture of how we see things.

I believe this also relates to the fact that creative minds include volume in their view of our three dimensional world where the analytical mind simply cannot grasp such an abstract concept and must resort to creating a mesh of straight lines to artificially create three dimensional curved objects.

In any case all we have to do is take a good look at what we have done and what we are presently doing to understand we must be doing something wrong. Personally I reject the norm because the norm is insanity in it's finest hour and I'm better than that, we should all be better than that in my opinion.
Step outside the box and take it all in.
AC

[TheoriaApophasis]

@TA
Consider that in nature there are no straight lines and there are no circles there are spheres.
AC

Ive said 1000 times that "mother nature doesnt do straight lines"


There are however accretional disks, or 2D circles in nature however in abundance.

[RAMSET]

RFDD is Done and working

TinMan
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Well i ran the first test today on the RFDD-the pendulum test. The test was successful,although i was hoping for a little more deflection on the pointer. But as the sattllites are very small,and the device as a whole is very heavy,im happy with the result's. I have also decided to forgo the replication by another builder before showing how the device works,so you will also get a look inside the RFDD,and see it workings while running. This will all be in the video i will be posting tonight-as soon as it has uploaded. As per the norm here in WA this time of night,uploading is very slow-only 234 minute's remaining-then processing of course.

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thx
Chet

[RAMSET]

Enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-JF4a6qyDs

[wayne.ct]

Impressive!

Well done! What will you do next to improve the results?

[TheoriaApophasis]

You and or him need to get him a STROBE for not only seeing the ACTION, but also help him adjust the timing etc etc of his device


Borrow one from a car repair place, they use them for timing belt adjustments.



Considering his device he DESPERATELY NEEDS to be using a STROBE


A cheap disco strobe might even work perfect

[TheoriaApophasis]

“All inherent inertia is centripetal, there are no exceptions; all centrifugal presumed inertia is not inherent and a resultant effect and only connotatively inertia, but not inertia definitionally” – Author

[RAMSET]

additional experiments proposed ?

Inertia Drive project. RFDD.

thx for looking
Chet

[RAMSET]

Brad adds some focus to his new direction

Inertia Drive

thx for looking

Chet

Ps
any problem with the link let me know.