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  • Additional circuitry for tesla switch

    From the tesla switch document, it said:
    "It is likely that additional circuitry is needed to cut off the extra power when the energy in the batteries rises to the point where it could endanger the equipment which it is powering or component in the circuit...It might be sensible to have the control circuitry to kick in at 14 or 15 volts and drop out again when the battery voltage drops back to 12.5 volts or so."

    Another tesla switch document said that:
    "If left undisturbed, each battery would charge up to nearly 36 volts. Control circuitry is needed to prevent over-charging.

    1. What sort of electronic component can help me achieve this? Tell me please.

    2. How can I use one ne555 timer to operate 3 opto-isolator in ON state while another 3 opto-isolator in OFF state? How to invert the ne555 timer?

    3. What is the maxi. voltage that can be allowed for each battery in tesla switch? 12 volts, or 36 volts or even higher, I am confused? Any comments?

    4. Is having a higher switching frequency, the tesla switch will have a higher maxi power output? (note: not to exceed 800 Hz and must above 200 Hz)

    Your opinion is invaluable to me. Please share your opinion.

  • #2
    http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...to-mosfet.html

    This was your thread and you failed to reply on it. Whats wrong?

    All kinds of opinions at "Use for the Tesla Switch"

    None of us can help you, you already know it all. Maybe you should straighten that out first.

    Matt

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    • #3
      Icehouse

      Originally posted by holtage View Post
      From the tesla switch document, it said:
      "It is likely that additional circuitry is needed to cut off the extra power when the energy in the batteries rises to the point where it could endanger the equipment which it is powering or component in the circuit...It might be sensible to have the control circuitry to kick in at 14 or 15 volts and drop out again when the battery voltage drops back to 12.5 volts or so."

      Another tesla switch document said that:
      "If left undisturbed, each battery would charge up to nearly 36 volts. Control circuitry is needed to prevent over-charging.

      1. What sort of electronic component can help me achieve this? Tell me please.

      2. How can I use one ne555 timer to operate 3 opto-isolator in ON state while another 3 opto-isolator in OFF state? How to invert the ne555 timer?

      3. What is the maxi. voltage that can be allowed for each battery in tesla switch? 12 volts, or 36 volts or even higher, I am confused? Any comments?

      4. Is having a higher switching frequency, the tesla switch will have a higher maxi power output? (note: not to exceed 800 Hz and must above 200 Hz)

      Your opinion is invaluable to me. Please share your opinion.
      For years and years and year all people saw was John Bedini website here it is

      THE TESLA SWITCH

      I have watched many men showing a Tesla switch and these Tesla switch circuits are all a little different. One thing is the same, that is they can't get it to work easy.

      Temperamental is another word that is associated with tuning any Aether energy gathering device.

      It works trust me.

      Mike

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      • #4
        Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
        For years and years and year all people saw was John Bedini website here it is

        THE TESLA SWITCH

        I have watched many men showing a Tesla switch and these Tesla switch circuits are all a little different. One thing is the same, that is they can't get it to work easy.

        Temperamental is another word that is associated with tuning any Aether energy gathering device.

        It works trust me.

        Mike
        Mikey, you are nothing but an idiot. You have no business advocating anything. Shut up.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Matthew Jones View Post
          Mikey, you are nothing but an idiot. You have no business advocating anything. Shut up.
          That is not true Matthew

          I live on this planet also. You should be ashamed of the way you speak to adults.

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          • #6
            Switching Video

            Originally posted by holtage View Post
            From the tesla switch document, it said:
            "It is likely that additional circuitry is needed to cut off the extra power when the energy in the batteries rises to the point where it could endanger the equipment which it is powering or component in the circuit...It might be sensible to have the control circuitry to kick in at 14 or 15 volts and drop out again when the battery voltage drops back to 12.5 volts or so."

            Another tesla switch document said that:
            "If left undisturbed, each battery would charge up to nearly 36 volts. Control circuitry is needed to prevent over-charging.

            1. What sort of electronic component can help me achieve this? Tell me please.

            2. How can I use one ne555 timer to operate 3 opto-isolator in ON state while another 3 opto-isolator in OFF state? How to invert the ne555 timer?

            3. What is the maxi. voltage that can be allowed for each battery in tesla switch? 12 volts, or 36 volts or even higher, I am confused? Any comments?

            4. Is having a higher switching frequency, the tesla switch will have a higher maxi power output? (note: not to exceed 800 Hz and must above 200 Hz)

            Your opinion is invaluable to me. Please share your opinion.
            Here is a great Tesla Switch, remember mechanical switching it superior in some ways.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ5_dKeoojo


            Many beginners use commutators instead and is a great way to experience success, then go to circuits.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j74-CoPVY50


            Start with a single relay charger to learn how batteries charge first, then add another one till you get four of them working.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6nDf_pM2zM


            Here is a mechanical Tesla switch

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75MZ7KHOIu8


            I hope you get it working.

            Michael Rowland
            (central Kansas)

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            • #7
              Complexity

              @Holtage


              Here is a highly intellectual man who is well seasoned in the explanation.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pSHDXVoeJM

              Here is a video from a very smart man. He works selling John Bedini products and his circuit is all grown up using a microprocessor. Also he inputs energy from the sun.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtT2BqfRONE

              I have never seen John Bedini demonstrate a Tesla switch but this one is as close as it gets




              Mike

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              • #8
                Q&A

                Originally posted by holtage View Post
                From the tesla switch document, it said:
                "It is likely that additional circuitry is needed to cut off the extra power when the energy in the batteries rises to the point where it could endanger the equipment which it is powering or component in the circuit...It might be sensible to have the control circuitry to kick in at 14 or 15 volts and drop out again when the battery voltage drops back to 12.5 volts or so."
                Yes Holtage the details about 15volts is correct and you will need to find a circuit to shut down the system so damage does not occur or use a battery changer to switch the front and back batteries around.

                This is why I recommend that experimenters start with a single pulsing circuits to first understand the basics of the way batteries are best charged.

                One big thing you learn is that battery plate will resist a charge if to much power is used and so learning the best amount for a single pulse for a given battery.

                Originally posted by holtage View Post
                Another tesla switch document said that:
                "If left undisturbed, each battery would charge up to nearly 36 volts. Control circuitry is needed to prevent over-charging.
                Again holtage this statement shows that you do not understand the basic rules of battery charging or you do and the document was a misprint. No offense.

                Take a look at two batteries. The highest that 2 batteries of 12vdc each will go is 16+16vdc and the fluid is bubbling like mad, so two batteries MAX at 32vdc for flooded cells. Again know your battery.

                For dry charge AGM batteries stop at 14.5 and if it won't pulse charge up to that you need fluid. See John Bedini video's in living color how to maintain batteries and to know what to expect from a single battery before starting an advance project.

                Raising the charge from a MAX or 30vdc or 32vdc all the way up to 36 volts means you are over driving the batteries with way to much power to begin with.

                Originally posted by holtage View Post
                1. What sort of electronic component can help me achieve this? Tell me please.
                Simple voltage shut down circuits are everywhere on the web.

                Originally posted by holtage View Post
                2. How can I use one ne555 timer to operate 3 opto-isolator in ON state while another 3 opto-isolator in OFF state? How to invert the ne555 timer?
                I have seen this arrangement of having many many opto's like John Kroon circuit I posted of his switch and I must say I don't know how they are used.

                Originally posted by holtage View Post
                3. What is the maxi. voltage that can be allowed for each battery in tesla switch? 12 volts, or 36 volts or even higher, I am confused? Any comments?

                4. Is having a higher switching frequency, the tesla switch will have a higher maxi power output? (note: not to exceed 800 Hz and must above 200 Hz)

                Your opinion is invaluable to me. Please share your opinion.

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                • #9
                  Tube Video's

                  Here are a few Tube Video's on variations of the Tesla switch or as John Bedini calls it a SSS or Solid State Switch. And the reason I focus on John B is that his version on the Tesla switch has evolved into using a rather large coil that resembles his coils for other inventions.

                  So other circuitry variation never ends.

                  I give you "YOUTUBE"


                  radiant ser par charger.avi - YouTube






                  Tesla 4 Switch - Proof of concept - YouTube


                  Tesla-switch part 1 - YouTube


                  Tesla-switch part 8 - YouTube


                  Tesla-switch part 7 - YouTube



                  https://app.box.com/shared/z82ur8o9b5




                  Mike

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
                    .....So other circuitry variation never ends.....

                    Mike
                    What variant would that be?

                    Explain to us Mikey what a Tesla switch does? Please...

                    Matt

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                    • #11
                      Tesla Switch

                      Hi Matt I thought you would never ask.

                      I really am no match for you Sir and so it is best that I start by giving you my only simplistic understanding about the Tesla Switch diagram's I see on the web.

                      First TS I ever saw was just one battery being dump to the next battery in a row till all 4 batteries were pulsed and back around it went.

                      This may have been a bad example? I don't know. Is that a wrong example Matt?

                      Okay then I see many other Tesla switch circuits, some with 2 batteries dumping to one battery and also another style where a coil or 4 coils are used to pulse energy through plus collect the BEMF or CEMF.

                      This is all I understand. I don't know much about ratio's of 1/4 wave design or balancing out the mass of windings. I can't do that and make sense of it.

                      I hope we can come to some kind of a friendly exchange Matt I really do for the sake of others.

                      God Bless

                      Mike

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                      • #12
                        Just wonder which will be suitable

                        I have four stuffs: PMIC-Battery Management, Zener Diode, PMIC Voltage Regulator, Solid-state relay. Which will be the most suitable to build the charge control circuitry for tesla switch? I want the easiest, solid-state(method), cheapest solution in the above four? Give me some example, brothers.

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                        • #13
                          Examples you had in mind

                          Originally posted by holtage View Post
                          I have four stuffs: PMIC-Battery Management, Zener Diode, PMIC Voltage Regulator, Solid-state relay. Which will be the most suitable to build the charge control circuitry for tesla switch? I want the easiest, solid-state(method), cheapest solution in the above four? Give me some example, brothers.

                          Hi Holtage

                          Since you are well versed in circuits give us an example of each other of those types of circuits that you are able to build. The versions of any idea are endless. Give us something to work with before you stop answering for another 8 weeks.

                          This will show that you are really interested by the effort you put into the discussion. Anything short of that is showing that your questions are meaningless.

                          I think you have been given answers you don't understand yet.

                          Do I even have your attention? I wonder.

                          Originally posted by holtage View Post
                          Warning: Please do not tell me to see/refer to the thread "Use for the Tesla Switch", the thread wastes my time and is COMPLELETLY USELESS. I found nothing relevant for constructing my Tesla Switch.....
                          Other questions: How about darlington pairs transistor? What "2N3055/2N2222A combination"...?




                          Either way if you really desire a working answer please reply in a timely manner before everyone forgets the question.

                          Mike
                          Last edited by BroMikey; 09-21-2014, 07:25 PM.

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