This drives me crazy and extreme confusion

[TheoriaApophasis]

@TA
I didn't think you would let that one slide through,lol, and after I thought to state this is just a rough analogy
AC

I had no premise to attack anything you said, so you shouldnt feel that way.

just free thinking back and forth.


All communication is only modality of the Knower and expressed by and thru same. We all give and take .....and "spitball" ideas, analogies, etc etc etc.

[Ernst]

TA, I am so sorry.....

the opposite of inertia isnt rest, .....its movement

No, it is not

Inertia is the resistance of any physical object to any change in its state of motion, including changes to its speed and direction. It is the tendency of objects to keep moving in a straight line at constant velocity.

throw a stone up in the air.....thats charge, dielectricity
it reaches a loss of inertia
stone falls back in your face...thats magnetism

It reaches a loss of inertia?????????
According to Newton (F=m.a), mass and inertia are equivalent, I can actually prove that they are identical. So you are saying:
It reaches a loss of mass. What on Earth does that mean?

the stone loses inertia and FALL into the water..............it loses its dielectric component and sinks........magnetism....

Again, a stone loses inertia???? (this time it does not "reach a loss", though, phew!)
Falling, perhaps collapsing in itself(?), you compare to magnetism. But falling is finite, it always ends. So how can you have a permanent magnet?

To keep the wordy narcissists at bay

Sorry to see it did not work.


Ernst.

[TheoriaApophasis]

It reaches a loss of inertia?????????
According to Newton (F=m.a), mass and inertia are equivalent, I can actually prove that they are identical. So you are saying:
It reaches a loss of mass. What on Earth does that mean?
Ernst.

There is much Newton did not comprehend. Namely "action at a distance" which he himself admits outright.

“It is inconceivable that inanimate Matter should, without the mediation of something else, which is not material, operate upon, and
affect other matter without mutual contact. Gravity should be innate, inherent and essential to matter, so that one body may act upon
another at a distance thru a vacuum, without the mediation of any thing else, by and through which their action and course may be
conveyed from one to another, is to me so great an absurdity that I believe no man who has in philosophical matters a competent
faculty of thinking can ever fall into (for) it. Gravity must be caused by an agent acting constantly according to certain laws; but
whether this agent be material or immaterial, I have left to the consideration of my readers.” - Sir Isaac Newton, Letters to Bentley,
1692

likewise you have no idea that a MASS of matter is a collection of stable fields IN INERTIAL STABILITY.

Try again, your comprehension does not exist except at a sophomoric rate.



all matter/ mass is a collection of stable (for a time) dielectric inertia.

However mass/matter is not an equivalent for or with inertia, that premise was poo poo'd by Tesla and all those with the intellectual prowess to see the obvious.


NO matter is lost in, for example, an atomic explosion. NONE; only a loss of the system's collective binding inertia at the inter-atomic.

It is believed that when an atomic bomb explodes, matter is transformed into enormous amounts of energy. This is not true. After the explosion, all of the original matter still exists. All of the protons, and neutrons making up the uranium, plutonium, or tritium are still within the mushroom cloud. Elements were transformed, but in no case was a single particle of matter converted into energy. All of the original components needed to reconstruct the transformed atoms to their initial nuclear states are speeding away in all directions and could, in principle, be reassembled back into the original nuclei. The same exact number of protons exists after the explosion as existed before. To reassemble these components would require the same amount of kinetic energy that was released in the explosion. The energy of the explosion comes not from converting matter to energy, but from the kinetic energy released when the light elements combine and when very heavy elements break apart. This energy did not just appear from a miraculous transformation of matter into energy, but was always contained within the internal motions of the electrons and protons making up the structure of the fissioning or fusing atoms. The only transformation that occurred was the conversion of rotational kinetic energy into linear kinetic energy.

But falling is finite, it always ends. So how can you have a permanent magnet?
Ernst.

I see you have no idea what a "magnet" is. A magnet is a coherent dielectric object.


Its ok, most all have no idea about this either.

Likewise you are confusing a connotation with a denotation.

A falling object is not to be compared to dielectric inertia which is NOT finite, NOT with a finality or ending.



Suggest you study much more and re-approach your specious conclusions and premises.


The "Ontology of Ernest" is 'lacking'.

[Hrothgar]

Wtf!?!?!

When you overdraft your checking account it is at a negative ie a - and the usual color for denoting a negative balance is red. yes - and red together. if you look at the battery in your car the + is red and the - is black. You cannot spend negative balance only positive money can be moved toward the negative balance.

in nearly every other system on earth positive is a symbol of movement and goodness. The protagonist is is the swashbuckling hero. The negative and evil festers. Money is held in the hand and applied to debt. Filling a hole with dirt we perceive the dirt to be the surplus and the hole lack there of. You cannot move the hole to the dirt.

I did not say that it is contrary that a charge travels toward a proton. I said that is contrary that the minus goes to the plus.

[TheoriaApophasis]

You cannot spend negative balance only positive money can be moved toward the negative balance.

In FIELDS, you can "spend a negative balance"

that balance is called dielectric voidance,. Same thing 'running' so-called "magnetic attraction" (which does not exist, its sourced at dielectric voidance)

likewise the same with gravity.

The positive balance is magnetism which is spent (so to say) AS space (not IN space).

in nearly every other system on earth positive is a symbol of movement and goodness. The protagonist is is the swashbuckling hero. The negative and evil festers. Money is held in the hand and applied to debt. Filling a hole with dirt we perceive the dirt to be the surplus and the hole lack there of. You cannot move the hole to the dirt.

I did not say that it is contrary that a charge travels toward a proton. I said that is contrary that the minus goes to the plus.

The hole is charge voidance, in FIELDS you can "move the hole"

AND you can also "use two holes" to cancel two holes


That MINUS you think is a MINUS is really a PLUS IN VOIDANCE

that is counterspace

that is gravity

that is "attraction"

All you are really saying is that 2 SPATIALLY separate like on like entities are undergoing acceleration in voidance (which you call a minus).

[Hrothgar]

No, what I am saying..

In FIELDS, you can "spend a negative balance"

that balance is called dielectric voidance,. Same thing 'running' so-called "magnetic attraction" (which does not exist, its sourced at dielectric voidance)

likewise the same with gravity.

The positive balance is magnetism which is spent (so to say) AS space (not IN space).






The hole is charge voidance, in FIELDS you can "move the hole"

AND you can also "use two holes" to cancel two holes


That MINUS you think is a MINUS is really a PLUS IN VOIDANCE

that is counterspace

that is gravity

that is "attraction"

All you are really saying is that 2 SPATIALLY separate like on like entities are undergoing acceleration in voidance (which you call a minus).

you educated idiot, has nothing to do with fields gravity magnetism or any thing of that nature. What I am saying is that the world teaches us to perceive + and - to mean one thing and dealing with energy has them labeled backward according to those sensibilities.

I am also saying you are as useless as tits on a boar.

[TheoriaApophasis]

you educated idiot, has nothing to do with fields gravity magnetism or any thing of that nature. What I am saying is that the world teaches us to perceive + and - to mean one thing and dealing with energy has them labeled backward according to those sensibilities.

I am also saying you are as useless as tits on a boar.

You said "has nothing to do with fields"

without saying WHAT "has nothing to do with fields"


What the world teaches is idiocy, the point is to get AWAY from what the talking heads (= fools) are teaching.


the rest is ad hominem and useless.




I can assume by your avatar that you're 16 years old or less.

[Hrothgar]

Actually

I'm middle aged and quite "dumpy". No matter how earth shattering anything you may have uncovered is, if you cannot effectively communicate that information then it is of no import and you are no better than a fool. This thread was started to help someone understand something and you and your irrelevant self serving clap trap nor your trolling have done anything to answer his question.

[Matthew Jones]

I am also saying you (TheoriaApophasis) are as useless as tits on a boar.

I second that!!

[TheoriaApophasis]

You said "....has nothing to do with fields"

without saying WHAT "has nothing to do with fields"



what is that "X" again ?

This thread was started to help someone understand something.

In which case youve contributed NOTHING

Further worse, you said "has nothing to do with fields"

without saying what that IS.

[Hrothgar]

What a fine researcher you are

You said "....has nothing to do with fields"

without saying WHAT "has nothing to do with fields"



what is that "X" again ?





In which case youve contributed NOTHING

Further worse, you said "has nothing to do with fields"

without saying what that IS.

You did not read the title of that post, which in fact is the answer you seek.

[Ernst]

This is about the funniest thread I have seen so far!
The humour may help to sort out the "extreme confusion".


Ernst.

[Hrothgar]

Thank you, good sir.

This is about the funniest thread I have seen so far!
The humour may help to sort out the "extreme confusion".


Ernst.

now down low, Thank you, good sir.

[TheoriaApophasis]

now down low, Thank you, good sir.

Maybe Lord Hrothgar (sic) can explain one thing about CHARGE

Increasing acceleration = decreasing movement.




Discharge:

Increasing movement = decreasing acceleration






love to see you explain that fact






If you say thats contradictory (which it seemingly is superficially), you would be wrong.

[Hrothgar]

Really?

Maybe Lord Hrothgar (sic) can explain one thing about CHARGE

Increasing acceleration = decreasing movement.




Discharge:

Increasing movement = decreasing acceleration






love to see you explain that fact






If you say thats contradictory (which it seemingly is superficially), you would be wrong.

I sir, (and I use that term loosely) am an ordinary "schmuck" not some lord mentalist of all things magnetic. While I don't see you as having any magnetism I cannot dispute that you are in fact mental. You want to have a protracted flame war geek off in the middle of a help thread?!?!?!? What kind of child are you? Here is a great idea, go on a quest to find a friend that isn't on the other side of a monitor or chained in your basement.

Acceleration is a rate of change in any direction and can be applied to any point in reference in the field that charge is moving/residing
Movement is relative to area and you can base any assumption on reference to start point the end point or the ratio of the remaining distance to that of the distance already traveled, yada, yada, yada.

Simply put you have laid an obvious landmine in the form of a question. While I cannot conceive of what answer you consider to be the correct interpretation or for that matter what color the sky is in your world. I see it as meaning your ego is suffering a bit of backlash and you need to prove to your self that you are above me and everyone here. I have this sincere advice, either learn to come down and connect with others so that knowledge may be exchanged in a sincere manner or change your forum name to "Ad nausium" so people will know what to expect from you before hand.