Basic Free Energy Device

[Turion]

The magnets were 1" by 3/4". I have a ton of those. The only other news I have are 1 1/2 by 1/4 or MUCH bigger.

Dave

[wantomake]

MY1016 36 volt

Hey Matt,
I have the my1016 36 volt that is modified per your post.
Amp draw: 2.2 volts
Rpm: 2100
Running off two batteries in series 20 volts or less. If both were fully charged I guess the rpms would be higher.

Dave,
Not tried the neo thing with these motors, I saw a guy on Youtube with a set-up that he claimed was efficient.

wantomake

[altrez]

Hello All,

I am still hard at it, hopefully can post some new stuff soon. Had a breakthrough with HHO and the Tesla Switch. If you have built one based on wave-forms and frequency your mind should of just had an awwwhaaaa moment

Some good stuff coming soon!

Almost ready to start winding my motors lol



-Altrez

[altrez]

I have run several HHO generators with a Tesla Switch. You get near lossless transmission of the power between banks.
If you look at those Stan Meyer plans he shows a load after his plates. Makes you wonder why a load? Why not just return the power.

Matt

You have to pull the energy through the HHO generator to get the best effect. It's crazy efficient.



-Altrez

[shylo]

Hi all, Would putting magnets on the outside not just magnitize the can for a short period of time, acting like bigger stators for awhile?
Causing more lenz, since the field has been increased, remove the magnets less drag ,less rpm and less power required?

To Matt, I have my mag track running 3 ft to a height of 10in. Sucks the magnet in at the start, but wants to hold it at the end of the run.
Thanks guys
artv

[Sawt2]

To All:
watch you tube video about the star gate motor.
search for "stargate motor full demo"

I got my new my 1016 280 watt motor. Ran it stock on 24 volts and at was at 3600 rpm with about 1 amp draw.Interestingly after I put those big neos on it sped up to 12000 rpm but the amp draw went way up. Pulled the neos back off and it was still at 5500 at about 1.4 amps.Will post a video.

Joe


YouTube

[shylo]

fields

Hi Joe, with those big neos, It would surley saturate the can.
I use layers of laminated cores from Xfrmrs for shims with magnets, if the layer of steel is small enough ,it becomes part of the magnet.
Did you let that motor rest and then hook it up again like the beginning? With out the neos ,Was the rpm higher?
6 amps compared to the 1.4 is quite a bit.
Excellent video btw.
artv

[Turion]

Magnet alignment

Rue,
If your razor scooter motor has magnets that are like this "+" in the case rather than like this "X" in the case, the top magnet has the North side facing the rotor and the South side against the case. So when you put magnets on the outside of the case, did you place the North face of the magnet against the case or the South side against the case? That is what Matt is talking about when he is talking about the alignment of the magnets.

When I did my video, I only put magnets on the left and right, and none on the top and bottom. I got acceleration and no additional amp draw. When I placed the magnets, the North side of the motor magnet was facing out (toward the case) and I put the North side of the magnet on the outside of the case against the case. So North to North.

Dave

[RUE]

Rue,
If your razor scooter motor has magnets that are like this "+" in the case rather than like this "X" in the case, the top magnet has the North side facing the rotor and the South side against the case. So when you put magnets on the outside of the case, did you place the North face of the magnet against the case or the South side against the case? That is what Matt is talking about when he is talking about the alignment of the magnets.

When I did my video, I only put magnets on the left and right, and none on the top and bottom. I got acceleration and no additional amp draw. When I placed the magnets, the North side of the motor magnet was facing out (toward the case) and I put the North side of the magnet on the outside of the case against the case. So North to North.

Dave

I was doing south to north.With north to north it didnt seem to speed up but maybe my magnets are too big. Will try it some more and see what it does.

Joe

[RUE]

Dave,
Went and double checked and it was south to south.Side motor magnets are south facing out And top ones are north out.


Joe

[shylo]

This is getting confusing The pic attached shows the can I have 4 magnets alternating poles.
Is this different from the my10....?
Thats not the winding I'm using just to show the magnets.
artv

[Turion]

Don't let it confuse you.

If you put the north face of a magnet against the outside of TOP of an MY1016, it turns out the magnet on the inside MIGHT have its north face up and it MIGHT have its south face up, depending on the motor. I was trying to decide whether opposing magnets was causing the motor to speed up or attracting magnets, so it is important to know this, but it turns out there is no way to know which it is without taking the motor apart. And some MY1016 motors do not HAVE a magnet on top. the magnets are in an "X" pattern inside the case rather than a "+" pattern (in relation to the flat base on the bottom of the motor). But they are still four magnets in a NSNS pattern, so are all the same. It only matters if you are sticking magnets to the outside and are wondering if you are opposing or attracting the magnet inside.

Dave

[Turion]

Information

I can tell you that Matt has the generator all designed, (I replicated it) has got most of it put together, but has NOT gotten all of the testing done. He is the type of guy that wants to build it and make sure it works before he puts anything out there that any of YOU are going to spend your money on. If he says build it, it will be because he KNOWS it works. You will not be testing some half assed theory he came up with, but will be replicating a working model.

You also need to understand that we have some stuff that works, but what we are trying to do here is SIMPLIFY things so that you can build something WITHOUT having to spend several thousand dollars (as I have done) to have a working system. So he knows WHAT will work. He built a small working prototype. I replicated it. Then I built my BIG gen which will really put out some power. Now he is trying to put together a "basic" model that can prove the concept (to YOU) without a lot of expense. And what he has come up with , he believes, will be better than the small working model he has, which ALREADY proves this will work. That's why we are so confident. We have already seen it. AND we have it on video.

If you got a few thousand lying around, I can get you the plans for the gen I built. That few thousand isn't for me by the way, it's the cost of materials and machine labor. But what Matt has come up with here we think will be simpler and even BETTER on a $ for $ cost basis. Since I built MY generator we have come up with half a dozen improvements that require a complete rebuild, but will make it a much, MUCH better generator, and I am in the process of making those modifications now. All it takes is time and money. Have to completely disassemble it and change all the rotors, the core material on the coils, and a couple other things. But this is a learning process.

And this NEW design, scaled up, may be even better. With what he is going to have YOU build, it will NOT be as expensive as mine, it will be much simpler, but it also will not put out the power I was going for. It would have to be scaled up to do that. The idea is to show you it works so you will be committed enough to figure out a way to come up with the money to BUILD a bigger unit. And if we get ENOUGH people interested, maybe we can figure out some ways to get the cost down for everybody. By the way, my remodeled gen is powered by the modified razor scooter motor, and uses the kind of circuits we have been talking about.

[Turion]

Plain Truth

The big gen I have had running will speed up under resistive loads only. It was setup to output AC, and even when rectified to DC would slow down the motor when trying to run inductive loads. I never tried AC loads other than light bulbs as load. (Except that once to test it) And I have been running it during all previous tests with an off the shelf Razor Scooter motor rather than a modified one. Mainly because the specs on amp draw and output are known.

I am currently in the process of making parts to either modify the machine to output high voltage DC, or put together an entirely NEW machine that outputs high voltage DC, so we will have to see.

Honestly, looping it has not been our primary concern or focus. Our focus has been to assure that the output is more than the input. It is. AND to get the thing to put out as much as possible for as little in as possible...hence the work on pulse circuits, recovery circuits, flywheels, etc.

Yes, it would be great to loop the thing and shoot video. Some day I will get to the point where I am ready to try that, but for right now it is not a priority. Not until I feel like I have explored all the possible ways of making the production of power more efficient. WHY NOT? Because I can always dump power to caps or batteries to supply the input, and when you can recover 85% of the input or better with the right circuit, you can run for quite a while before you have to mess with switching out batteries, and if you have a flywheel on your setup, it barely notices the blip of switching over to a charged battery.

And looping has its problems, as we have already seen. Until we can figure a way to do it without the motor being affected by the load, I'm good with what I've got. There much research yet to be done on on a couple of things I am NOT even going to bring up here, because I want to explore some possibilities on my own.

Dave

I could care less about people who want to argue that this isn't for real. I know what I know. I have it on my bench.

[citfta]

Hi Matt and Dave,

Well I just finished reading the whole thread. You got me enthused again. It is especially nice to see builders only participating in the thread now instead of the naysayers that were here at first.

I have dug out my spool of 24 gauge wire and found a couple of scooter motors so I guess I need to get busy and start rewinding. It looks like spring is almost here as the grass is getting green and a lot of the trees are starting to bloom. So I better get busy on the motor soon before I have to start taking care of the yard and garden.

I'll post some pictures and results when I get one done. Also remember guys I can help with some other things if you need me too. You know what I mean. I reminded Matt a while back so drop me an email if you need something.

Carroll