Basic Free Energy Device

[liber63]

Hi Dave
I have tried recently Alexkor’s Self-Charging Circuit from chapter 6 of PJKchapters. I did not have the same size of batteries as Alexkor's but it did work for me. In my tests I only needed two prime batteries in parellel in order not to be discharged a lot. So I thought to have three bank batteries, 36v to 24v like 3bgs, 24v to 12v and 12 to 36 or 48v like Alexkor's. I am sure it 'll work fine, as I have tried the two different systems and find them very satisfying. Especially if you don't load very much and leave some time for the batteries to recover and then charge them. This way I've done tests with double gain just from discharging and charging after 2 hours.
I really like to see and work and test your new idea. Just let us know which direction. Does it have any similarities with Carlos Benitez?
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[Sawt2]

RUE,
Working on it.

Sawt2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-anNcJ_4-LM

Turion
Thank you

[mainsen]

Alexcor+Turion system

Hi Dave
I have tried recently Alexkor’s Self-Charging Circuit from chapter 6 of PJKchapters. I did not have the same size of batteries as Alexkor's but it did work for me. In my tests I only needed two prime batteries in parellel in order not to be discharged a lot. So I thought to have three bank batteries, 36v to 24v like 3bgs, 24v to 12v and 12 to 36 or 48v like Alexkor's. I am sure it 'll work fine, as I have tried the two different systems and find them very satisfying. Especially if you don't load very much and leave some time for the batteries to recover and then charge them. This way I've done tests with double gain just from discharging and charging after 2 hours.
I really like to see and work and test your new idea. Just let us know which direction. Does it have any similarities with Carlos Benitez?
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Hi liber63,

nice to see your post, because thats exactly what I also wanted to try, Turions 3 Battery system combined with Alexkors BEMF charger and a 4th (or more) battery charged by it.
Sadly my Alexkor seems to perform underunity, though it works great for refreshing and charging batteries. May I ask you about the specs of ur Alexkor, you use only the bifilar coil or additional slave coils too? Wire diameter, turns? With what battery you drive it, what batteries (and how many in series) do you charge with it?

kind regards,
mainsen

[liber63]

Hi mainsen
I used the exact components of the photo i posted, only the drive battery was a 10 Ah, over three years dead and revived a bit (meaning i would be lucky if it had 60% capacity) so I used another one of the same kind (but even less capacity). Totally two parallel drive batteries. But I think it mentions somewhere that the system might work better with 24volt drive and implies good, not dead batteries! Charging batteries were 4 7Ah. I used two coils one bifilar, one slave! The specs exactly as in the book. Maybe few more turns on the bifilar. The amps from the drive were around 550miliamps. I count and found that I used much less energy from this system than using my normal charger CTEK MXS 5.

[mainsen]

Hi liber,
thank u very much for the info. I will try to add a slave coil too and see if it improves efficiency =)
kind regards

[Turion]

Boost circuit

Don't forget that the boost circuit allows you to keep the voltage higher than the charge battery. When you have two batteries in series and then a third battery you are trying to charge, the voltage hitting that third battery needs to be at LEAST 2 volts above the battery voltage. So if battery 3 is at 12 volts, you BETTER be hitting it with 14, or you are NOT charging it in a way that is good for the battery. If it is at 12.8, you better be hitting it with 14.8. The boost circuit allows you to do this without too much waste.

What I am looking at now is basically a "home made" shunt motor run on the 3BGS with the boost circuit. I am trying the rotor windings and stator windings in both series and parallel. This machine has TWO rotors. One for the motor, containing no magnets, and one for the generator which does have magnets.

The generator coils must be disconnected from the storage device when the load is running off it. High impedance coils produce high voltage. The circuit produces the amps. Worry about getting your voltage up and let the amps take care of themselves.

[Turion]

WW,
If you are out there, thanks for everything. I finally figured out the magnetic polarity. It does everything you said it would do. Simply amazing.

[Wistiti]

if you have something to share..... .....just share!

[Turion]

Response

Wistiti,
Now you sound like me!!

When I have something that has been thoroughly tested and iron clad results that I can post detailed instructions for others to replicate, you will see it here. Until then, I will continue to work behind the scenes with a few people I trust trying to improve on what we have.

[Wistiti]

[Turion]

There's a bunch of stuff I am not yet in a position to share, but there is at least one thing I will throw out there even though I started a WHOLE THREAD on "Your Basic Coil" just to talk about this stuff and couldn't wade through the idiots to make the kind of progress I wanted. As usual, I just got together with a few folks I trust and we did the testing ourselves.

We tested welding rod, coat hanger, #12 shot, ferrite and Metglass as a generator coil core on a generator running under 4,000 RPM. While different wire configurations, higher rpm or other variables might change the results, for our purposes the ferrite was the clear winner. At higher RPM's it might not be, and I doubt we will spend the time to determine that since we are running at the lower frequencies. There are lots of kinds of ferrite and some may be better than others. We found one we like. You find yours. We wound a lot of coils to be able to put out that information, and it would have been much easier if ten different people had wound the same sized coil and tested it on the same sized rotor with the same magnets on it. But I have given up expecting that there will EVER be that level of cooperation and teamwork on this forum. The stuff we know is because we are building and testing stuff every single day. Some of it we will share.

I redid my big generator. This is the 5th time I have rebuilt it and it costs a couple hundred dollars each time to modify the parts and have them machined to new specs or replaced. Right now it is running on a razor scooter motor at 1800 RPM. It is running on 12 volts at 6 amps or 72 watts. It is outputting 170 volts DC after the bridge at 1.5 amps per coil, and there are 12 coils. YOU do the math. With the windings I have on the coils it requires 24 volts to get it up to 2800 RPM, at which point it speeds up under load. I have not done any output testing at the higher RPM because I haven't had TIME. Trying to figure out the best way to convert high voltage DC to lower voltage higher amps has been my priority.

Not only that, but we have another project, the 3BGS, that is showing results with the modifications to the basic circuit we have made that are even better than this generator, so I get sidetracked with that trying to put together a decent demo to show what we have.

And then there is Matt's motor project which SHOULD run itself and produce usable power.

Free energy is out there. You just have to do the work to get it. Oh, and it isn;t really FREE. You will spend time and money to get there.

[citfta]

What amazes me is how many people want the answers but are too lazy to do any of the work. And look how many times some idiot has posted his great idea for a free energy device and wants someone else to build it. They're too lazy to even build something based on their own ideas. Everybody wants to be a genius when it comes to theory but very few are willing to test even their own ideas.

I am done wasting time for those kinds of people. I will gladly share privately with those that have shown the willingness to do some work. The loafers and free-loaders will get nothing from me.

For Bob French, check your PM's here. I can't answer your email from my present location.

Carroll

[erfinder]

Turion,

Back when hot topic was acceleration under load, you challenged the community to demonstrate the acceleration under load effect using air core coils. Have you accomplished that task? If so can you demonstrate it? If not do you have any ideas why you cannot accomplish the task?

Regards

[Wistiti]

There's a bunch of stuff I am not yet in a position to share, but there is at least one thing I will throw out there even though I started a WHOLE THREAD on "Your Basic Coil" just to talk about this stuff and couldn't wade through the idiots to make the kind of progress I wanted. As usual, I just got together with a few folks I trust and we did the testing ourselves.

We tested welding rod, coat hanger, #12 shot, ferrite and Metglass as a generator coil core on a generator running under 4,000 RPM. While different wire configurations, higher rpm or other variables might change the results, for our purposes the ferrite was the clear winner. At higher RPM's it might not be, and I doubt we will spend the time to determine that since we are running at the lower frequencies. There are lots of kinds of ferrite and some may be better than others. We found one we like. You find yours. We wound a lot of coils to be able to put out that information, and it would have been much easier if ten different people had wound the same sized coil and tested it on the same sized rotor with the same magnets on it. But I have given up expecting that there will EVER be that level of cooperation and teamwork on this forum. The stuff we know is because we are building and testing stuff every single day. Some of it we will share.

I redid my big generator. This is the 5th time I have rebuilt it and it costs a couple hundred dollars each time to modify the parts and have them machined to new specs or replaced. Right now it is running on a razor scooter motor at 1800 RPM. It is running on 12 volts at 6 amps or 72 watts. It is outputting 170 volts DC after the bridge at 1.5 amps per coil, and there are 12 coils. YOU do the math. With the windings I have on the coils it requires 24 volts to get it up to 2800 RPM, at which point it speeds up under load. I have not done any output testing at the higher RPM because I haven't had TIME. Trying to figure out the best way to convert high voltage DC to lower voltage higher amps has been my priority.

Not only that, but we have another project, the 3BGS, that is showing results with the modifications to the basic circuit we have made that are even better than this generator, so I get sidetracked with that trying to put together a decent demo to show what we have.

And then there is Matt's motor project which SHOULD run itself and produce usable power.

Free energy is out there. You just have to do the work to get it. Oh, and it isn;t really FREE. You will spend time and money to get there.

Great to know you have made this progres!

As i am also a builder i know it could be really expensive... I think the real chalenge here is to highlight the working principe and to find an easy low cost way (with easy salvage component around us) to reproduce it... This way, many people with all kind of budget can reproduce it...

Keep your good work!

[Turion]

Air core coils

erfinder,
Yes, I was able to get air core coils to speed up under load. I have a theory about why, and since that same theory applied to coils with cores seems to work, I am sticking with it for now. Yes, I can demonstrate it. As of now I am no longer working with air core coils. I need the core to produce the voltage I need.