Basic Free Energy Device

[machinealive]

Matt , I pulled my post just when you were posting. What are you ****ng stupid, I had 3 videos posted since last night, what you didn't watch them? Too ****ing bad for for you. I'll never post nothing to this ****hole again.
Kiss my ass, your the puke,

And like I said, hopefully someday, we'll get too meet.
I've met people like you before. Bet you start crying as soon as someone with balls gets in your face.

Your All talk. Blow me.

[Matthew Jones]

Matt , I pulled my post just when you were posting. What are you ****ng stupid, I had 3 videos posted since last night, what you didn't watch them? Too ****ing bad for for you. I'll never post nothing to this ****hole again.
Kiss my ass, your the puke,

And like I said, hopefully someday, we'll get too meet.
I've met people like you before. Bet you start crying as soon as someone with balls gets in your face.

Your All talk. Blow me.

PM me, give an address, we'll see if we can work something out. Didn't catch your video's sorry. Give me...Give me... Give me!!!!

Your a LOL
Matt

[wayne.ct]

Number Active

There are only 11 active now, but you want us to speak up? I am a builder and experimenter and have shared here in the past. I don't expect anyone to give away their hard earned knowledge, but everyone needs a starting point. My starting points have not been very good up until now, so I have nothing to show. I keep coming back hoping to pick up a few morsels of truth. Thanks for at least being active and offering some hope. A high voltage "spike" of input to a coil does have some interesting properties and value. But, many factors, listed elsewhere on this forum, are involved and need to be specified. I'm still looking for the correct combination of factors. Thank-you.

[jettis]

As I see it, an energizer is a DC biased magneto. This biasing enables it to operate as its own prime mover. In the energizer we find two generating functions, the two operate more or less simultaneously, they are regular generator action, and self-induction. The generator action proper is not accessible, as is true in just about every "motoring" apparatus, the generator proper sees the supply as if it were a load, one which it cannot charge for reasons all should be very familiar with. This doesn't stop this device from being considered (at least by me) as generator. In it the generating mechanism that one capitalizes on is self-induction, I have come to understand and experience self-induction multifaceted.

JB's Energizer

The way I see things now, after various discussions with erfinder because of my curiosity and of my need to know how things really are... I have come to agree with most and if not all of his viewpoints, they simply have turned out to be true on the bench and or by simply thinking about what was said. Plain and simple.

[altrez]

The system will work. I have spent a lot of money and shared a lot of info. This system needs lots of tuning that can only be done through hours and hours of hard work.

Matt and Dave have shared every thing that is needed! You cant put an exact PDF together as it will be just a bit different for everyone.

Get the Tesla Switch / 3BGS working, post your progress and both Matt and Dave will help you along the way.

-Altrez

[DavidE]

Matt

Ya well when you start showing yours, then we'll weigh in on that. When you spend money to find answers we'll consider you. But so far all we hear is talk and not a ounce of support in equal research or financial support. Just talk!!!
Your kinda talk, "Give me, give me, give me... I somehow deserve it. I am noble heart with all good intentions"....PSSS! Nothing but lazy pacifist BS
Put your money or time where your mouth is, then you get to see good things.

I didn't realize that this was a competition. My objection is the attitude that forms from people that get a ways down the road and then lecture all others how it should be. And then they bait... they start saying things like... "I know more than you, but don't trust any of you to know unless you pay the price, and the price is what I say it is."

Coming to a public forum and then blustering about what you think you know is ONLY ABOUT YOUR EGO. And I point this out because its a complete waste of time for you, and anybody else here.

If your true spirit is for mankind, don't assess a value on what you think you know, post it as a collaborative share, and let it live or die in the wild.

My comment is strictly about the choice of the attitude of sharing some, and then stating you know far more, but won't go further because... you have become so self important.

This kind of choice behavior is poison to true open collaborations. And the minute you let it root, your group will die from the lack of sustenance sharing.

You exude the attitude that I am making note of here. And sadly over time I think you have infected Dave. The Dave I knew could live in the moment of wonder and discovery, versus power over others. And that my friend is the beginning of the end...

[erfinder]

What was the energizer for? What was its purpose?

In the Bedini Free Energy Generator its clear that it wasn't its own prime mover, this modification, or upgrade if you will was introduced to us through the SG/SSG variants.

If you don't know what a coil is or how it works, look into it. We don't need to pretend that we are in the position to school one another. I am here to share my impressions, realizations, and insights gained through tireless experimentation, and observation, not to teach or be taught.


Regards

[i_ron]

Lol

It's all yours.

Dave, That is good, look forward to working with you

Ron

[i_ron]

Advise

Dave, That is good, look forward to working with you

Ron

Dave,

You know the rules of this game. If you have what you claim then you are in danger.

You know that you can not patent a free energy device in the States. Even if you could, do you have $40,000 and two or three years? Do you have $500,000 to defend a patent if you could get one? What are you going to do when some company from India or China changes a couple of details and makes it their own patent? It is pie in the sky thinking of a patent for this device.

As it stands now all "they" have to do is off you and its gone. To protect yourself and progress the device it is imperative that you get an information package out to as many people as you can. Do it!

Ron

[citfta]

Matt



I didn't realize that this was a competition. My objection is the attitude that forms from people that get a ways down the road and then lecture all others how it should be. And then they bait... they start saying things like... "I know more than you, but don't trust any of you to know unless you pay the price, and the price is what I say it is."

Coming to a public forum and then blustering about what you think you know is ONLY ABOUT YOUR EGO. And I point this out because its a complete waste of time for you, and anybody else here.

If your true spirit is for mankind, don't assess a value on what you think you know, post it as a collaborative share, and let it live or die in the wild.

My comment is strictly about the choice of the attitude of sharing some, and then stating you know far more, but won't go further because... you have become so self important.

This kind of choice behavior is poison to true open collaborations. And the minute you let it root, your group will die from the lack of sustenance sharing.

You exude the attitude that I am making note of here. And sadly over time I think you have infected Dave. The Dave I knew could live in the moment of wonder and discovery, versus power over others. And that my friend is the beginning of the end...

I would like to make a humble suggestion to you DavidE. Go back to the beginning of the 3BGS thread and just skim through it looking for all the times Dave asked for people to get involved. Do the same for the basic coil thread. Do the same for this thread. Now how many people did you find that actually took Dave up on his asking for help. He has pleaded with the people on this forum to get involved and help work toward a solution to get this system to work. With the exception of a very small handful he has been ignored over and over again. But still he has continued to share what he has learned. As soon as he makes a claim that he is pretty sure it is all worked out now everyone is making a cry he should share all he knows.

I am totally bummed by this entitlement attitude our society has turned into. Please explain to me why he should share anything with those that have consistently refused to do any work toward the goal. This whole fiasco on these last few pages reminds me of the old Aesop's Fable about the grasshopper and the ants. Maybe you should read it.

Respectfully,
Carroll

[Turion]

All,
Several months ago it was ME giving erfinder crap because HE wouldn't disclose things and his reply was that he would disclose WHAT he chose WHEN he chose to WHOM he chose. But I make a similar statement NOW and I'm the bad guy.

I_ron
I have disclosed everything to folks I trust. Your arguments are the SAME ones I have used to try to convince others who have claimed to have something to share.

But you want to know something REALLY funny? Over the course of the last TWO years on either THIS thread or the 3BGS thread I have shared ALL the specifics of this build either in written word, pictures I have posted, videos, or commentary on videos. If people had followed along When I was BEGGING them to, they would be standing right where I am right now. In fact, we would probably be even farther along because we would have been working together on this. All those videos and pictures were pulled down a couple weeks ago. Why? Because NOBODY was building and I am sick to DEATH of asking people to get involved. Now that its done they want me to hold their hand and walk them through it like two year olds. Snooze you lose. It's NOT ego. It's bitterness and disappointment that people won't get off their butt and DO anything unless someone is holding their hand.

In 1944 eighteen year olds stormed the beach at Normandy in the face of almost certain death.

In 2016 eighteen year olds need a "safe place" because words can hurt their feelings.

Times have certainly changed.

Now this stuff WILL get posted here...eventually. That I promise. If something were to happen to me there are others who know what I know. I WILL go home and shot a video showing inputs and outputs, but even THAT may take a while as my FIRST priority is to Replace the core material to increase output.

[wantomake]

Dodging bullets

Hello Dave,
I was finally able to order the Boost Module I think you posted on #565(?) or so. Wanted to try and piece together the ole 3GBS again to try the advise you posted about. Still have the Matt motor and another one not modified. Will need more batteries since the last set up those batteries are gone.

I dont post unless I've something to share to add to the discussion. I'm still learning and growing with enthusiasm for this movement to free us.

As former military i want to thank All who served and still serve to keep us free.

wantomake

[i_ron]

I_ron
I have disclosed everything to folks I trust. Your arguments are the SAME ones I have used to try to convince others who have claimed to have something to share.

But you want to know something REALLY funny? snip Now that its done they want me to hold their hand and walk them through it like two year olds. Snooze you lose. It's NOT ego. It's bitterness and disappointment that people won't get off their butt and DO anything unless someone is holding their hand. snip

Now this stuff WILL get posted here...eventually. That I promise. If something were to happen to me there are others who know what I know. I WILL go home and shot a video showing inputs and outputs, but even THAT may take a while as my FIRST priority is to Replace the core material to increase output.

Hey well it is your list and your invention so be my guest!

Good luck,
Ron

[erfinder]

All,
Several months ago it was ME giving erfinder crap because HE wouldn't disclose things and his reply was that he would disclose WHAT he chose WHEN he chose to WHOM he chose. But I make a similar statement NOW and I'm the bad guy.

Don't make this about you and me....

I haven't made a claim that I can get more out than I put in. I'm not the one who keeps making a promise to show something to people I know are hungry for guidance, and back out of that promise only to make it again to back out again....and again...... I've lost count of how many times you said you would show something and haven't or have shown but didn't show what you said you were going to show....I have nothing to disclose. I am only interested in sharing my impressions, and the few insights I have gained in my time looking for what I want.

I am not asking you to give me anything, other than a fair chance to explain myself and the room and respect a fellow researcher deserves when I choose to share my impressions. I don't have my hand out for support or a following. I don't need you to replicate anything I have done, nor do I feel the need to lead a campaign to replication what I think people want, been there, folk don't want what you want, they want what they want. That being said, regardless of how impressive something I may demonstrate may appear, I don't think anyone should replicate, I do however, suggest that if they were inspired by what they witnessed, that they try and figure it out, that is how I got to where I am. I saw something that impressed me, I set out and tried to figure it out.

Now I did ask you if you would demonstrate your 120 watt 800 watt apparatus, but I don't really care if you do or not. I am not interested in more out than in. Now unity, real unity, demonstrate that and we have something in common, and you have my attention.

What I disclose isn't appreciated by the majority, not enough detail I am told often. My presentation style isn't appreciated by all either..... I recall being told by a self appointed authority that theory is ****....put up or shut up...so I put up, and got crickets.....at some point the mob started throwing poo....they still haven't figured out what I shared with them...sad bunch....

I don't do batteries, and am not a fan of the concepts being shoved down our throats with regards to operating between positives. I don't care how promising the direction may be. It steers one away from where our attention should be focused. All we need to begin anew is a new perspective on that motor which you have planted between those two positives. Deny that if you want, debate it with yourself.....either which way you go with it, it won't change what my bench indicates.


Regards

[Matthew Jones]

Matt



I didn't realize that this was a competition. My objection is the attitude that forms from people that get a ways down the road and then lecture all others how it should be. And then they bait... they start saying things like... "I know more than you, but don't trust any of you to know unless you pay the price, and the price is what I say it is."

Coming to a public forum and then blustering about what you think you know is ONLY ABOUT YOUR EGO. And I point this out because its a complete waste of time for you, and anybody else here.

If your true spirit is for mankind, don't assess a value on what you think you know, post it as a collaborative share, and let it live or die in the wild.

My comment is strictly about the choice of the attitude of sharing some, and then stating you know far more, but won't go further because... you have become so self important.

This kind of choice behavior is poison to true open collaborations. And the minute you let it root, your group will die from the lack of sustenance sharing.

You exude the attitude that I am making note of here. And sadly over time I think you have infected Dave. The Dave I knew could live in the moment of wonder and discovery, versus power over others. And that my friend is the beginning of the end...

Ya I guess thats the truth. You have it all figured out. Just like I said, we work past the problems, we spend the money, we take the risk, and all of you who did nothing should benefit through our sharing. Then if it doesn't work for you for whatever reason we'll be to blame for sure.

Ya'll just don't even have a real perspective on the world and all that is changing. The amount of people who want to research further than we can and at the same time share among their peer groups. Really bring this tech to market on pure open source basis. And if you think cheap you up for a rude awakening, Free is not free.

Lets bring some other thing to light. Even if you are talented enough to replicate this work you cannot help us accomplish the rewriting of the math involved in this machine. Math that doesn't exist to prove whats happening is not only possible its purely natural.
You cannot compound materials that need to be made and machined.
Most likely you are not even up to par far enough on your physics to even be able to understand and argue lenz law and the things that are wrong with it. Ect...

So what are you really going to do to help share. Your going to replicate the work and show the world a machine running. Unfortunately that doesn't prove a thing. And at this point we can show you that, but the rest of the proof, man thats a big ticket item. You wanna help with that? You wanna share that responsibility with all the other people who feel the way you do? Then write the check. Setup the crowd funding. Make difference! Do something! We are! There will be no way around when we get done, it will be pure truth.

I won't bother ya'll anymore, You know where I stand, call it what you want.

Matt