Basic Free Energy Device

[Wistiti]

help!

shylo,
Look at post #409
That's where Matt gave instructions for winding the motor and listed videos of how to do it.

Three strands of #24 approximately 75 feet in length (each strand) gives you 100 turns. I would go longer to be safe, but after Matt wound his he UNWOUND it and measured the length so we would have a rough idea.

Dave

Hi guys!
Can someone point me where i can find a schematic/information about the Matt motor modification..? I found nothing at the post #409...
Thank you!

[wantomake]

dave or matt.could you post your preferred circuit diagram, and maybe a fresh link to the voltage booster. i tried the link on page 19 post 563, and a malware warning came up. thanks. i know youse are busy.

Hey Voltan,
This is the booster I purchased and using.

150W DC DC Boost Converter 10 32V to 12 35V 6A Step Up Voltage Charger Power | eBay

Hope the link works,
wantomake

[Matthew Jones]

Hi guys!
Can someone point me where i can find a schematic/information about the Matt motor modification..? I found nothing at the post #409...
Thank you!

Check your PM.

Matt

[voltan]

thanks anyway wantomake, but the same big red flag came up.citfta. thanks for the tip.wistiti, could you post a circuit diagram to go with the pic. happy to tidy it up with your consent,if helpful.
cheers.

[Peter Lindemann]

Just Talked with Aaron

Hey guys,

I just talked with Aaron and he is going to figure out what's going on with the malware in the links and fix it!! He'll also lock the thread or individually BOOT the disrupters if needed.

Peter

[Aaron]

bogus warning

Try this link: Correction. DO NOT try this link. I am going to leave it here so Peter or Aaron can click on it to see what happens.

DC DC Step Up Converter Boost Power Supply Module 10 32V to 35 60V 120W | eBay


Ok just tried it and it took me to the attack page. Apparently even new links on this forum are being redirected to the attack site. I had already learned the older links were being redirected. Peter or Aaron can you please look into this.

Voltan you will just have to go to Ebay and look for a 12 to 20 volt boost converter that boosts the output to 24 to 60 volts. It should be at least 120 watt output.

Carroll

Thanks for the heads up - I checked it out and that is a bogus report - if you mouse over it, it is nothing more than a redirect to Ebay. I've submitted the redirect url from here to the website for review. Click the ignore warning link at the bottom right and it will take you to Ebay.

[Aaron]

Rules for this thread

Turion started this thread and below is a quote of his first post. He started this thread and announced the rules for his thread so everyone needs to honor that. If anyone does not respect his wishes that he clearly stated in the first post, "So here is what I propose. Let us begin with a basic concept for THAT free energy device. EVERYONE who contributes to the thread must first show that they have built the basic prototype or their comments will be completely ignored and we will ask that they just leave." - they will be blocked from posting in Energetic Forum.

If anyone simply wants to post criticism without having ever built anything mentioned here, save it. This thread is not the place to post that. Go start your own thread so that this thread can proceed without disruption.

I can barely stand to come to this forum anymore. Most of the builders I have worked with for so many years have given up and moved on, although I am in contact with MANY of them by email or phone on occasion. All we are left with now are a bunch of folks who jump from thread to thread posting videos they have seen on YouTube that they believe are "for real" and a bunch of others who feel compelled to share how the "THEORY" they have come up with applies to every possible thread on the forum.

That was NEVER the purpose of this forum. NEVER.

I read yesterday that John Bedini doesn't come here because of all the nasty things that people here say to each other. Obviously this person knows John Bedini personally and John has confided in him right? I doubt it. Perhaps John doesn't post anymore because he got sick and tired of trying to tell us exactly how to do something and then having everyone do it their own way, or posting all kinds of crap theories about how it works without ever having built a single thing themselves. YEARS of that can wear you down. Do I know this for sure? No. Because I don't know John personally. But then I am not CLAIMING to know WHAT John thinks. I simply made a suggestion as to a POSSIBLE motive. Unless you DO know John and he does confide in you, I DOUBT you know why he doesn't post here very often either. But John already said his piece. We just need to LISTEN.

So here is what I propose. Let us begin with a basic concept for THAT free energy device. EVERYONE who contributes to the thread must first show that they have built the basic prototype or their comments will be completely ignored and we will ask that they just leave.

If you have an idea, great…build it. If you have a theory, great, implement it. If you have a suggestion, modify your OWN build and THEN report the results. DONT come on here with half assed ideas you expect others to implement because you had a wet dream about how something should be constructed or it came to you in a vision because you ate some mushrooms you grew in your back yard. Don't give us theories on how it should work or why it should work. Build the thing and show us that it DOES work and THEN tell us what you DID, not what you're "GOING to do." We don't want theories, we want action. A theory is not something you should share. It is something you should APPY to your own build, and IF it is successful and produces free energy, THEN you share it. Otherwise, keep it to yourself.

Building
Experimentation
Trial and Error
Presentation of FACTS NOT THEORIES. Let YOUR theories influence YOUR build not everyone else's
Replication of successful builds.
THAT'S the foundation this forum was built on.

John showed us what he said was a working free energy device and stated that we had everything we needed to make it work.

It consisted of:
A battery
A motor
An energizer or generator
A flywheel
A control circuit to pulse the motor and charge the battery during the off time between pulses.

Oh, and by the way…John showed how to build the device. He did not spend pages and pages going into the theory of why or how it worked. He just explained how to BUILD it. If you build it and it works, then we will figure out the why and the how so we can apply the concepts to other models.


How many of you who claim to be builders have actually taken the time to build this simple device and see the results? And then modify your device. And then modify it again. And discuss your results with others who are also building. That is what I am asking that we get back to on this thread. If you want to talk theory, go find another thread.

I have built such a device. It produces more out than in. I built a small prototype and then spent a few thousand dollars developing a larger prototype which I was sure would be "it." I have come to understand enough that I will have to build yet a third prototype. But I have gone back to working with a small unit to perfect it before I go to the expense of building another 12 coil unit

But I am NOT done experimenting. Length of coil. Distance of winds from magnet. Size of magnet. Distance between magnet and core. Core material. Size of wire. Length of wire. Number of coils vs number of magnets on rotor. One rotor, or rotors at both ends of coil. Universal motor or pulse motor. Motor run in standard configuration or 3BGS configuration. Standard winding on stock motor or rewound motor that uses far less amps to run. Weight of flywheel. Distance of weights from center axis. Pulse length. Position of magnet to coil when pulse is initiated. These are some of the things I am experimenting with. It would go way faster if I had some others working with me, but make no mistake. I WILL keep improving this design.

A simple two coil device should put out TWICE the power that the motor consumes in running and 80-85% of what the motor uses should be recoverable. That is the basic unit. Just two coils and a rotor run by a motor with a flywheel.
Build it. Show it. Let us see your results. THEN lets figure out how to make some history.

Oh, and before I forget to mention it…..the device I have built, while it would seem to be a replication of John B's device, it really is NOT. John never gave specifics as to size of coil, size of wire, length of wire, size of magnet, etc. He just gave the basics. The specs I quoted above are for my replication of ANOTHER builder's device. His name is Matt Jones. All the "specifics" are his, based on a whole heck of a lot of actual BUILDING and EXPERIMENTING.

Dave

[wantomake]

Pictures

To All,
Just a snap shot of two battery (one primary, one charging) setup so far.

download.jpgdownload (1).jpg

wantomake

[erfinder]

- they will be blocked from posting in Energetic Forum.

Please delete, not block delete my account here at the Energetic Forum. I would do it myself, however, I do not have the authority.

Regards

[i_ron]

Hey guys,

I just talked with Aaron and he is going to figure out what's going on with the malware in the links and fix it!! He'll also lock the thread or individually BOOT the disrupters if needed.

Peter

Peter,

I have a problem with all links on this forum and the other Energetic forums also... the dreaded RED get me out of here screen.

But that is with Google Chrome, when I go to Opera I can view the links just fine!

To soon to lock the thread and I can't think of any one who needs blocked. There will be more info coming down the track... we just need to be patient... and more tolerant.

Thanks,

Ron

[wantomake]

Idel ?

Aaron,
Why was I red flagged as "idle"?

wantomake

[Turion]

PLEASE Be aware that some boost modules WILL NOT WORK on this circuit because of the chip on the module. I don't know which ones. I have several that DO WORK and one that DOES NOT work.

The negative of the boost module is a "through" connection between the low voltage side and the high voltage side, so it doesn't matter WHICH "negative" you connect up as shown. The other negative will not be connected to anything.

If you need the pdf of how to wind the motor, PM me with your email address and I will send it to you, or I could post it somewhere that everyone can get to if anybody has a suggestion.

[soundiceuk]

Hi Turion, send it to me and I will gladly host it on my dropbox account.

I've acquired 3 x 12v batteries - Big ones.

I've got a 12v/24v wind turbine alternator

So the magic happens in the motor right?

What magic is happening in the motor?


Of course I get that ultimately the motor turns the alternator.


Will this work with using 3 voltmeters and me manually moving wires just for experimentation purposes?

Best regards,

Paul

[Turion]

Magic

The Magic happens in the circuit.
The boost module makes it more efficient
The RIGHT motor makes it more efficient.

Here's the pdf of Matt's modified motor
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r5uiiydg86...motor.pdf?dl=0


Here's a video of me running the basic circuit
Boost Circuit Demo - YouTube

There is a reason I have so many batteries lying around, but I will go into that another time.
As long as you aren't running things down too far, and are switching batteries around, this thing will keep on running.

Dave

[soundiceuk]

Can a permanent magnet motor work?

Superwinch 90-33295 12v Motor to suit Power Drive and S4000


I wanted something high torque as the alternator I have can output 180 amps at 12v.