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    Originally posted by Turion View Post

    I don't know what the solution is, and maybe some others should throw out their opinion as to where we go with all this.

    Dave
    Well the 3 bat forum was entirely devoted to the dead battery in position three. There is very little additional information that is relevant to the present build. If you wanted to sum up the important items and repost them here, that would make sense, along with a disclaimer of what was no longer of any importance.

    Of course you realize that the announcement made of 120 watts in and 800 watts out, cop 6.6, is what brought this forum to life.

    People are waiting for information as to that setup... not diversions.

    So I feel it is safe to ignore the start up forums as the mother lode is here. And you are in control of that

    Ron

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    • Thanks!

      Thanks Matt,

      OK, I bought a bunch of these and will chime in again after my project gets a little farther along. I'm really glad this thread is working so well now!!

      Peter

      Originally posted by Matthew Jones View Post
      150W DC DC Boost Converter 10 32V to 12 35V 6A Step Up Power supply module | eBay

      We know these work and can be paralleled safely with a common cathode diode array.

      Matt
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      • Originally posted by Brodie G View Post
        say if you were running a 24/48v system....is it not possible to run a 2nd boost converter off the 24v battery that was outputting say 72v and then run another inverter inbetween that 72v and the 48v system? or would that cause a short???
        Yes that would be possible and all combinations of potential differences becomes open.
        If you wanna try thing and you unsure post a makeshift schematic and we'll try to help.

        But what I suggest is to get a simple setup going with 12 volt difference and a boost circuit on the load.

        I cannot stress it enough if you can make that one work you make any of them work. Its the concept of keeping the voltage high enough after the load to resupply the serial bank through the ground leg is what your after. Period.
        This is not something easily measure but you can see it. You get the thing running and it keeps running. Now it can be measure but you need mp probes for scope to look at the wave form.

        I am trying to get some time allotted this week so I can set one up and try to show you what can happen.

        Matt

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        • Originally posted by i_ron View Post
          ....
          Of course you realize that the announcement made of 120 watts in and 800 watts out, cop 6.6, is what brought this forum to life.

          People are waiting for information as to that setup... not diversions.

          So I feel it is safe to ignore the start up forums as the mother lode is here. And you are in control of that

          Ron
          And they'll be waiting a while.

          Matt

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          • Originally posted by wantomake View Post
            Mario,
            This is something I can start experimenting with. Dave said a lenzless generator that can work with the modified Matt motor.(hope I quoted right) Having a lot of the round microwave magnets and scrap metal, I may build a smaller version to test with.

            I'm not going to discuss how to build it cause this is new area of learning for me. I've studied Thane Heinz videos with the acceleration under load method. As for conventional generators, I have a bone yard of them. Like my battery bone yard.

            wantomake
            Wantomake,

            I've never built one of these type of gens, only the kromrey/G-field type. I have no idea if this one will make a difference, I suppose you still need the same parameters as a kromrey type setup for it to work, coil type, low impedance load etc….

            regards,
            Mario

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            • Matt,

              the boost converter running on the potential difference has smoothing caps on its output, so does it matter what kind of load you put on it? I suppose It's the pulses that allow for this to happen, so is a motor as a load needed to get the pulses or are the pulses from the boost converter enough to make the series back charging happen in your opinion?

              regards,
              Mario

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              • Originally posted by Mario View Post
                Matt,

                the boost converter running on the potential difference has smoothing caps on its output, so does it matter what kind of load you put on it? I suppose It's the pulses that allow for this to happen, so is a motor as a load needed to get the pulses or are the pulses from the boost converter enough to make the series back charging happen in your opinion?

                regards,
                Mario
                Should be enough. Just get one running and then we can start improving it.

                No one has any long runs yet to look at.

                Matt

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                • I_ron,

                  You guys are going to have to cut me some slack when it comes to my big generator.

                  I had a medical issue a while back and my Neurologist put a halt to my driving for the last seven months. I still haven't gotten a medical release, so I am without transportation except when my wife is home on the weekends. My machinist came and picked up the generator frame to mount a slightly larger razor scooter motor so I can increase the rpm's and boost the output a bit. He still has my machine and I have to work out a way to get it back. He lives right down the road from my old house which is 2 1/2 hours from where I live NOW, so it may be another week before I get it back and can make a video of inputs and outputs that will satisfy everyone. I have video of it running five 200 watt bulbs and a 60 watt bulb, but that's not quite the same as putting meters on it. I haven't forgotten. Matt wants data too, for some others stuff we are doing, so I'm working on it.
                  Last edited by Turion; 06-12-2016, 04:29 AM.
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                  • Originally posted by Turion View Post
                    I_ron,

                    You guys are going to have to cut me some slack when it comes to my big generator.

                    I had a medical issue a while back and my Neurologist put a halt to my driving for the last seven months. I still haven't gotten a medical release, so I am without transportation except when my wife is home on the weekends. My machinist came and picked up the generator frame to mount a slightly larger razor scooter motor so I can increase the rpm's and boost the output a bit. He still has my machine and I have to work out a way to get it back. He lives right down the road from my old house which is 2 1/2 hours from where I live NOW, so it may be another week before I get it back and can make a video of inputs and outputs that will satisfy everyone. I have video of it running five 200 watt bulbs and a 60 watt bulb, but that's not quite the same as putting meters on it. I haven't forgotten. Matt wants data too, for some others stuff we are doing, so I'm working on it.
                    Dave,

                    We can live with that. Thank you for sharing your current situation with us. We all (I am sure!) wish you good health. What you propose is very positive and I look forward to this information.

                    All my working life I built stuff from detailed plans. So am not good at building things from vague and nebulous ideas only. I can visualize items in my mind and draw them and build them but it has to be fairly concrete to begin with. I have always considered myself an improver, not an inventor. Good pictures and even videos then are a big help.

                    And as I said, it is your option if you want to only send this out to a select few.

                    Take care,

                    Ron

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                    • As i am still waithing to receive my boost converter, i continue to play with this system.

                      I find it quite effective for restoring sulfated battery in the tird position!
                      See the picture; 2 good battery for the 24v, 6 sulfated smaller battery// for the 12v (3rd position) and an inverter with re-emf charger charging another batt as the load!

                      It is a real interesting system to play with! Can't whait to receive the boost module to see the difference...

                      Ciao!
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                      • Ready to Buckle Up

                        Greetings Matt and Dave,

                        Very intrigued by your work on this and prior threads. Jumping in on this in a simple mode with an inverter. Have ordered recommended boost converter and initially intend to perform a series of tests for quantifying the actual performance for baseline data, but will have to wait until the China freight arrives. Ready to buy US, but pricing is over the top, if the components can be found without reinventing the wheel.

                        Appreciate your sharing of ideas and actual builds. As always, will share my data and results.

                        In for the ride as summer time permits,
                        Yaro

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                        • Originally posted by yaro1776 View Post
                          Greetings Matt and Dave,

                          Very intrigued by your work on this and prior threads. Jumping in on this in a simple mode with an inverter. Have ordered recommended boost converter and initially intend to perform a series of tests for quantifying the actual performance for baseline data, but will have to wait until the China freight arrives. Ready to buy US, but pricing is over the top, if the components can be found without reinventing the wheel.

                          Appreciate your sharing of ideas and actual builds. As always, will share my data and results.

                          In for the ride as summer time permits,
                          Yaro
                          It usually only takes 10 days or so and I am on the east coast.

                          Matt

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                          • Originally posted by Matthew Jones View Post
                            It usually only takes 10 days or so and I am on the east coast.

                            Matt
                            are you ever lucky, my deliveries usually run to 5 weeks. And I am on the west coast. My May 2nd order for a K type thermocouple for my brass foundry is not here yet!

                            But that said, the boosters came through in 6 days, a record!

                            Ron

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                            • Originally posted by i_ron View Post
                              are you ever lucky, my deliveries usually run to 5 weeks. And I am on the west coast. My May 2nd order for a K type thermocouple for my brass foundry is not here yet!

                              But that said, the boosters came through in 6 days, a record!

                              Ron
                              You give me some hope to recive mine soon! I ordered it the 30 may... And i am in the east coast of Canada...

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                              • Originally posted by Wistiti View Post
                                You give me some hope to recive mine soon! I ordered it the 30 may... And i am in the east coast of Canada...
                                Oh I didn't know you were in Canada, sorry I didn't mean to get your hopes up. LOL.

                                Matt

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