Basic Free Energy Device

[Matthew Jones]

Hi Matt,

Motors were new/old stock which means, never been used and collected dust in a warehouse but possibly lesser quality. It would be probably worth replacing bearings with a good ones but I'll try washing/lubricating first.

I can do silk/mask/gold plating and drilling with diameters specified in CAD/Gerber files. The largest boards I have done were plate antennas for MWO - 12inch round, double sided, double thick copper and gold plated (immersion).
My cost, depending on the size and quantity (at least 20-25 pcs) will not exceed $20 per piece, including worldwide shipping inside a gift card. Otherwise, PO will charge me close to $5 which is ridiculous and rip off.

Cheers
V

I'll make a few and then we'll see how much community support there is for that size order, after we know everything is working.

Thanks
Matt

[desa]

I agree motor bearing can create resistance. Most of motors and definitly industrial 3 phase motors create tremendous amount of residual heat. This Matt motor is deferent breed. It is 2 pole pulls motor with empty spot on the commutator. This is the where the magic happen. the Matt and Dave posited to this fact so many time. Heat in the motor is residual resistive power that did not have outlet to escape before new wave arrives. In this modified version Matt has brilliantly if I may say so created the perfect outlet for this residual capacitative cumulative magnetically induced load in the windings. As the motor switches of this empty spot permits in its abruptness of switching off to send induced power back to the charging battery. The magnetic field created in the winding after it made motion of the stator is there for taking as it now colapses and again induces power in the winding but this time we grab it instead let it sit there creating unecesery heat. Please forgive me for a long answer but first thing in the motor is timing. You get this wrong and hot it gets. As we wind the motor we are inprecise in many area and motor suffers for it. Read back instructions and look at videos that is what I deed and than improve as I deed. This is collective effort so please put it down in writing. My motor runs cool drows only 1 A at 12.4VDC. And I am sure in time yours will too. Please don't give up there is more to this motor than meets the eye.
David.

I've been busy with urgent outdoor projects (roofing/shingling etc.) and had to leave everything else on a back burner for the moment but I can help with manufacturing pcb's for Matt's circuit, if needed.
@Dave - I did notice same "anomalies" - reduced amp draw and increased speed in my motors with back plate adjusted. They're MY1016 and core width (without the frond/end caps) is 2.25 inch. I need to wash bearings and put good lubricant or replace them. I was blaming the motor or winding but it seems, the bearings are causing heating problem.

Cheers

V

[SkyWatcher]

Hi all, Hi matt, Here is a pic of the motor taken apart, let me know if you think this will work.
Those big blobs on the armature, if that is for balancing the rotor, that might be difficult to emulate, meaning rebalance.
Anyway, let me know please, thanks.
peace love light

[Matthew Jones]

Hi all, Hi matt, Here is a pic of the motor taken apart, let me know if you think this will work.
Those big blobs on the armature, if that is for balancing the rotor, that might be difficult to emulate, meaning rebalance.
Anyway, let me know please, thanks.
peace love light

No they won't work it only has 2 magnets.

Sorry Bud
Matt

[desa]

Gift that keeps giving.

I run the setup today for close to one hour. I had no need to run it longer because answer was there plain and simple. My total loss after batteries rested was .2 v on series and I was higher than start on batterie 3. In attachment you can see all that you need to do math, plain and simple. I attached the DC generator that in open voltage runs at 235vdc. As loaded it run 110 vac CFL 20w lighting to full potential at 142vdc. In this test I attempted to replace resistive load with another Matt's modified motor it was unloade and shaft power don't forget is now free for taking also. It run at battery 3 voltage of 15.1 VDC at 1.6 A. Recirculating power was 2.2A and potential difference was 3.3 v, Sufficient to hold all in balance. To my surprise variable resistor had been reduced but it has more place to give to be eliminated compleatly. As I loade second modified motor the first one increases in speed accordingly. Looking at this all together I could easily see the two motors running in same direction on same shaft with the radial flux generator in between. Second motor running with additional bust converter feeding batery 2. Load of the generator would eliminate variable resistor and any drop in speed of motor one would be self regulating boosted by motor 2. Naw please all of you with know how let me know what you think.
As it is set now if I only recuperate CFL 20W this is in the money. Please let me know if my measurments or asumptions is wrong.
David.image.jpg

[blackchisel97]

I'll make a few and then we'll see how much community support there is for that size order, after we know everything is working.

Thanks
Matt

I can run any size of batch, even a single board but at 20 pieces up the cost can be shared/divided and goes down to a very reasonable level.

@desa I was running mine under 1A at 12VDC with adjusted plate and it was a couple months ago when I PM Dave about it. I didn't want to mess with brushes board and only adjusted as far as magnets allowed for the bolt to go through. Moving in opposite direction would change the rotation and there will be another "sweet spot".
I'll get back to it once I have other things in order.

Thanks

V

[Matthew Jones]

I run the setup today for close to one hour. I had no need to run it longer because answer was there plain and simple. My total loss after batteries rested was .2 v on series and I was higher than start on batterie 3. In attachment you can see all that you need to do math, plain and simple. I attached the DC generator that in open voltage runs at 235vdc. As loaded it run 110 vac CFL 20w lighting to full potential at 142vdc. In this test I attempted to replace resistive load with another Matt's modified motor it was unloade and shaft power don't forget is now free for taking also. It run at battery 3 voltage of 15.1 VDC at 1.6 A. Recirculating power was 2.2A and potential difference was 3.3 v, Sufficient to hold all in balance. To my surprise variable resistor had been reduced but it has more place to give to be eliminated compleatly. As I loade second modified motor the first one increases in speed accordingly. Looking at this all together I could easily see the two motors running in same direction on same shaft with the radial flux generator in between. Second motor running with additional bust converter feeding batery 2. Load of the generator would eliminate variable resistor and any drop in speed of motor one would be self regulating boosted by motor 2. Naw please all of you with know how let me know what you think.
As it is set now if I only recuperate CFL 20W this is in the money. Please let me know if my measurments or asumptions is wrong.
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Thats what it is all about!! Your doing it. If the gen power was going into the system you would get a gain.

Matt

[HuntingRoss]

I have a video series on how to wind the motor...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faZI...7WsknDG4439vV3

I don't know you so I cannot tell you its an easy thing to do. We are not even promising a result. Plenty have already had good results but they worked to get there.
You can pick up about 10 pages back. The beginning we we're looking at other things so its relatively invalid by now.
If you have more questions just ask.

Matt

Thank you for the video link Matt. One question from watching the series of videos before I jump back into this thread, 10 pages or so. Are the 3 coils independent coils or one length of wire concentric on the first post. I'm wondering because you explain about tieing the wire off against 3 tabs on the commutator starting 3 tabs back from the centre line ?

mark

[HuntingRoss]

mark,

Matt showed you the mechanics of how to wind the motor, but if you go back to where he told you to, you will see that the winding wire (#30 now) and number of turns has changed. Desa has also shown some changes in the timing that are a little tricky to deal with because to do it you have to leave the bolts out of the motor that hold it together. I'm working on something for my 3D printer that would externally take the place of those bolts that I would gladly send out to folks for the cost of shipping plus $1.00 if I can get my dang printer up and running. I'm not out to make money on this but I don't want to go broke either, or run out of printer wire.

Glad to see you here. We need more folks giving this a shot.

Thanks Dave. I have boxes of MY6812 two magnet motors from my single comm motor experiments but will need to expand the stock to the 4 magnet version here.

Time to absorb info...

mark

[Matthew Jones]

Thank you for the video link Matt. One question from watching the series of videos before I jump back into this thread, 10 pages or so. Are the 3 coils independent coils or one length of wire concentric on the first post. I'm wondering because you explain about tieing the wire off against 3 tabs on the commutator starting 3 tabs back from the centre line ?

mark

They are 3 wires in parallel hooked to all 3 tabs. But recently Desa wound his motor with 6 strands of 30 Litzed at about 40' per side. This a has yielded better results for him. I am going to try it first myself before I totally endorse it but as of now its probably going to be the standard for winding.

Matt

[HuntingRoss]

Thanks Matt

[desa]

Thank you Matt.
Your incouragment and contribution is greatly apprisiated. Presently I am waiting for additional boost converters so I am in stby mode. I am interested in the desine of lenzless generator you proposed. When ready please fill free to throw a bone. Any info you have would be apisiated. This is the last component we need to complete system and I am ready to start building. I have ample experience with generators because it is what I do but this built has to be specially desined. The wind type, core material, number of turns, bucking pairs ,cycling. So many places to go astray. I hope to start building soon. P.S. I have intention of adding more capacitors to setup. Question, would it be beneficial by your opinion and what type of connection would you consider better, series or parallel?
David.

Thats what it is all about!! Your doing it. If the gen power was going into the system you would get a gain.

Matt

[Turion]

Generator

Desa,
We will both have to wait and see what Matt says about the generator. I built one based on Matt's prototype, and it DOES speed up under load. However, it is just TOO expensive to disclose here and TOO large to run with this small motor.

I know Matt has been hard at work designing a smaller prototype. I'll let him talk about that because it's his baby. He did send me one for testing and I will have it assembled and ready for testing sometime today. Got the coils done and finished putting the cores in yesterday. Can test for speed up under load with a stock motor, but need to finish modifying a razor scooter motor to replicate your results and test the combination of the two. Can take pictures and video whenever Matt says it's ok. He doesn't like to show ANYTHING until all the testing has been done. Should get to the testing sometime today. Just waiting for my shaft coupler to get here as motor and generator shafts are different sizes. But like I said, this generator is Matt's baby. I just build what he tells me to and test it. It's a pretty cool little unit. All made on his CNC machine. Would make a great "kit" if he decided to sell them. I'd buy a few just to have to attach to modified motors and give to a few people I know to show them what is possible. That's all I am going to say about it and that was probably too much. I do know of at least TWO other working Lenz free generator Models. One is by Mr Angus Wangus on YouTube, and the other is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etFC...eature=related

The big difference is probably output. This guy doesn't have cores in his coils so his output isn't as much as what Matt's should produce. But it WORKS. Or just build a high impedance coil like Thaine Heinz.

Dave

[Jeff Pearson]

When you order a MY6812, How do you know if you are ordering a 2 magnet or 4 magnet version??

[Matthew Jones]

When you order a MY6812, How do you know if you are ordering a 2 magnet or 4 magnet version??

All MY6812 have 2 magnets, order MY1016.

Matt