Basic Free Energy Device

[Sawt2]

Your Welcome. I'm glad you tried it.

I am glad you used a motor too. Even though you didn't have a load on it, it fundamentally proves what we're saying. If you can turn that motor for free and generate or do work from the torque, then its free work done. Free energy. And with the right tools you can always balance it out. I promise you that. Thats the goal in the end. This circuit..

http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...e-diagram1-jpg

With this working you could pull a load between B2 and B3 with an inverter and pull off extra power until something fails.

I have been trying to get this Generator together and was hoping to have it tested out and drawings and everything by this weekend but I had tractor go up on me right in the middle of planting Strawberries. One of my most valuable crops for spring. So my priorities got rearranged.

I'll catch up here soon. I am real happy people are trying things I wish more would report but this is life on forums.


Matt

Matt
I had a look at that circuit, maybe a stupid question, but, what do you use as a voltage regulator? I am only somewhat familiar with an automotive reg, and i don't think that they are a simple voltage in voltage out setup.
I have most everything on that circuit except the reg.

[Matthew Jones]

Matt
I had a look at that circuit, maybe a stupid question, but, what do you use as a voltage regulator? I am only somewhat familiar with an automotive reg, and i don't think that they are a simple voltage in voltage out setup.
I have most everything on that circuit except the reg.

Well it would depend on the output voltage of the gen. If the gen puts 14 volt no regulator needed. If it put 24 volt you might want some kinda buck circuit in there to regulate the voltage to just above the charge portion of the battery. That would leave you with the most efficient setup to put power back into the system. Just something to hold the generator steady and keep the voltage where it needs to be.

Ideally you might want 14.5 volt in each battery, that give 14.5 volts of potential to use for an inverter or something. Most inverters alarm over voltage at 15 volt. Then you would have running power plus with the batteries in the system you could have surge power for startup on what ever you ran.

The goal would be to try to keep the batteries charged by balancing the additional load to what ever the gen keeps in the system. It could even be controlled by an outside micro controller, well placed power monitoring, and a good algorithm. But having it running first would be the key to getting all that in place.

Matt

[Sawt2]

Well it would depend on the output voltage of the gen. If the gen puts 14 volt no regulator needed. If it put 24 volt you might want some kinda buck circuit in there to regulate the voltage to just above the charge portion of the battery. That would leave you with the most efficient setup to put power back into the system. Just something to hold the generator steady and keep the voltage where it needs to be.

Ideally you might want 14.5 volt in each battery, that give 14.5 volts of potential to use for an inverter or something. Most inverters alarm over voltage at 15 volt. Then you would have running power plus with the batteries in the system you could have surge power for startup on what ever you ran.

The goal would be to try to keep the batteries charged by balancing the additional load to what ever the gen keeps in the system. It could even be controlled by an outside micro controller, well placed power monitoring, and a good algorithm. But having it running first would be the key to getting all that in place.

Matt

Thank you Matt, hope you get your tractor going soon, i love strawberries

[Matthew Jones]

Little Teaser

Just wanted to give everyone an update. The little Gen is right on track. I'll write a PDF with the details and put all the models and G-code out for anyone who can print or machine, plus templates for people who have to hand craft.

Be back soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLpU...ature=youtu.be

Matt

[Sawt2]

Just wanted to give everyone an update. The little Gen is right on track. I'll write a PDF with the details and put all the models and G-code out for anyone who can print or machine, plus templates for people who have to hand craft.

Be back soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLpU...ature=youtu.be

Matt

Looks nice Matt, anxious to hear the details and to see it running.

[Turion]

Info

Just so you guys know, we have had this little generator running for a while now Matt sent me a prototype, and I built it. I have it here, and I have video of it running with inputs and outputs, but unfortunately, I have all that on my computer that is in my garage and NOT connected to the internet so it cannot be hacked. And I am out of town for a week to ten days. I have a video of it assembled and connected to the razor scooter motor here that is on my phone and I can share:

Little Gen 0001 - YouTube

and I have another video of it running. That one is on my phone too, and I can post it if you are interested, but it has no input and output numbers.

What you need to understand is the progression that happened here. Matt built a SIMPLE two coil prototype that output over TWICE the power that it took the motor to run it, and we could recover better than 80% of the power the motor was using by running it on the 3 battery system. DEFINITELY COP>2

I replicated that small prototype and saw what Matt saw. Then I built my BIG GENERATOR. It puts out about 1,800 to 2,000 watts depending on speed. So I have to have everything nice and tight and adjusted to get the higher output.

When we saw THAT would work, Matt wanted to put out something that all of YOU could replicate that didn't cost you an arm and a leg to build. My big generator was over $700.00 just for the WIRE. That's why I have NEVER released all the details on it on this forum. It's just too expensive to build unless you BELIEVE what we are telling you and have seen it happen for yourself on your bench measured with YOUR meters.

But here is a video of the big generator running off a larger modified razor scooter motor. This video was taken by the son of my machinist and my machinist is in the video. I am not. I asked him to video it for me, since at the time, the generator was at his shop where he was doing modifications to mount the bigger razor scooter motor. Some of the coils are hooked up to run some lights, so he could show me the output. This machine was DESIGNED to put out between 120-130 volts per coil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fwUI8FcWVY

So it isn't that we have built this thing and are still experimenting with what it can do. I have had my big generator running for over a year now. From time to time. It has ALWAYS had problems, and I have had to rebuild it several times to address each problem as it came up. In the video I am showing HERE, it only has ONE rotor between two sets of coils. That was a test setup. The final version has THREE rotors with two sets of coils. Greater output.

BUT, I have solved ALL those problems, and have a design that is not only pretty much bullet proof, but is FAR less expensive than what I started out with and will be cheaper for others to replicate once they see what is possible with the small prototype. Unfortunately, wire, magnets, bearings and shaft are NOT things I can save you money on, so a bigger version is still going to have a hefty price tag. I am putting the new prototype together right now. Unfortunately, the holiday cut into the middle of that, and I won't be home for a week or so. Once the new machine is up and running, I will shoot some video of inputs and outputs so you can see what it can do.

What you people have to remember is that running on the three battery system, the motor that is turning this generator is running almost for FREE between the positives. If we use just a LITTLE of the generated power to keep the primaries topped off, everything else is USABLE ENERGY.

There are 3 things that make this work.

First is the circuit we have been trying to get people to pay attention to for EIGHT YEARS now.
Second is coils on the generator that allow the motor to speed up when the generator is under load.
Third is a generator configuration where the magnetic attraction of the magnets to the coil cores doesn't put extreme stress on the motor.

I am STILL experimenting with a flywheel, but the flywheel action of the three big rotors I have seems to be enough for now.

If you look at the video of the little gen I posted, you will see a stack of wire spools sitting on my bench. That is the wire to wind the coils for the new generator. I am building it from scratch, and I actually need one more spool of wire than what is shown there. I am leaving my existing version as is, so that I can continue to experiment with it while I build the new one. The current prototype needs CONSTANT adjustment, which is why I have scrapped MOST of that design.

Dave

[Turion]

Point

Just think about this...

If the ENTIRE output of the generator is only used to do ONE THING...keep the primaries charged up... you can connect an inverter to battery 3 and run a continuous 100-200 watt load. What is THAT worth?

[Matthew Jones]

...you can connect an inverter to battery 3

http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...e-diagram1-jpg

Not battery 3, why burn the power? Between the potentials use the gen to cover your loss.

Matt

[Turion]

Example

Matt,
I know what you're saying is the BEST way. I was just trying to give a SIMPLE example to show what is possible. At least something simple that people who have tried this setup would easily understand. The WHOLE purpose of running between the positives is NOT TO USE UP the energy, but to just move it around and use it as it moves. ;-)

[jettis]

http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...e-diagram1-jpg

Not battery 3, why burn the power? Between the potentials use the gen to cover your loss.

Matt

Matt,

Like your motor, that uses two coils to compress the iron of the rotor then quickly switches coil polarity to release the scalar wave... Are you using that design in your generator as well? I see you also have the offset in your generator as it appears in the Bedini Ferris wheel, Muller and Watson designs. Are you wiring up your generator like the Bedini Ferris wheel?

In the early Bill Jenkins radio programs I posted http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...l-jenkins.html, it seems to me that Thomas Bearden explains that compressing an iron plate between two equal forces it sums to a net zero force under stress. In order to get scalar waves you have to pump or vary the rise and fall time of the forces equally on both sides of the metal plate, for those who do not understand. I am pretty sure that the outside coils as found in Bedini's Ferris wheel produces these scalar waves, as we have two opposing forces that sum to a stressed zero, along with the hidden information located inside the wave form that comes from the center coil in between the two outside coils.

Bearden does say in Energy From The Vacuum 1 that the quicker your rise and fall time the higher the spike voltage you will receive.

Do you guys think that the scalar wave is simply tapping the earths gravitational spin? It is my view that this is were all electric current comes from... gravitational waves. It seems John and Tom have been saying this since this all began. A compressed zero, with the hidden information, opens the window to receive an in phase (for lack of better wording) portion of the tapped gravitational spin of the earth.

Anyway I assume you guys have seen this patent before... US5514923.pdf

Dave Wing

[Matthew Jones]

IN this generator all your doing is pulling the power from the coils through a rectifier. I use the offset to make the startup easier, it also has some other effects on the overall voltage.

As far as that other stuff its a little to mystical to me.

There is some simple math involved in the formula for a lenz free generator based on prior experience. I won't be discussing that, just giving you a recipe for this particular model.

I am not sure the motor has any particular scalar function either. The truth is the capacity of the coils is low, they come on quick because the resistance is low and they stay on a long time so torque is developed. Energy is stored not dissipated. Do to the bi product of the windings it relieves itself of it charge lowering the overall BEMF CEMF count making the overall power to torque ratio more efficient through the employment of a surge current, even though it uses more power at idle. It also has a predictable pattern that boost the voltage and can be controlled and recovered relatively easily.

There is not really any other way to explain it. Really at its root its just simple.

Matt

[altrez]

I am still working on the battery side of this project but I can say that I can run a 1 watt lamp 10 time's longer on the 3BGS at 21 amps then 1 35 amp battery.

that is still with manual switching. Still lots to figuer out on the power side of things.

-Altrez

[Matthew Jones]

Update

https://youtu.be/yjT-KHowI6I

So here is a little video of the gen running. Shows some of its potential.
In actual fact is I have one coil that is short of wire and it is bogging down the gen under load about 140 rpms. But I'll get that fixed.
Overall the motor is cranking out really well at 5000+ rpms with gen at idle at 25 volt 3 amp. The gen is putting out 80+ volt open with no load.

The great thing about this little setup is the gen peaks its its current while running the motor about 8 volt (1500 rpm) and after that it winds up the voltage. All generators may be like that I am not positive. But at high rpms you get small voltage drop and all your current is available.

I am pretty positive now that I know the current draw of the motor under load I can get the driver going and least cut that in half.

Dave's version of the gen is speeding up under load at least at the moment without rectifying the output. He'll be home next week to add the rectifiers.

I hesitate to put out any literature on the gen until he tested his. We are also going to have results on a different build of the same model.

So before the gen is published I hope to have the motor driver running.

Stay Tuned.
Matt

[Turion]

Progress

My prototype only speeds up about 100 rpm under direct short, while Matt's slows down. Just goes to show how accurate he was as to the windings on the coils, and that 30 feet of wire he is missing on one coil makes a BIG difference. By the time I get home a week from today, maybe there will be two folks with prototypes up and running besides mine. Then we can all compare numbers and go from there.

I know Matt is ALREADY talking about changes to make this even more efficient and MORE productive, but you gotta start somewhere.

[Mario]

Hi Matt,

thanks for sharing. There is one thing i would like to say, the rotors seem to be out of perspex (plexiglass), if so please be very careful and never stay in front of the running machine. I had a muller type motor a few years ago that had a tiny little crack in the perspex right next to a magnet. At some point I ran it at very high speed. All I heard was a very loud boom and that was it. I can still see the signs on the wall, ceiling and furniture where the magnets hit, evenly spaced out like from a machine gun. I found one magnet deeply encased in a LA battery! Fortunately I always had the motor standing on the bench sideways, otherwise I wouldn't be here writing this lol. Since then I only used aluminium or other types of plastic material for my rotors. Perspex is just too brittle.
I even had more space between the magnets and the outer rim than you do, I know you're no fool and know about the danger, but I just thought I need to say something..

cheers,
Mario