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  • #16
    Kool Stuff VeProject

    Originally posted by veproject1 View Post
    good idea but how to visualize the pumping?
    Did you get this off youtube?

    Can this stuff be used for anything other than a talk piece like people put on their fireplace mantle? I see so many of these fun things and wonder why they have not been put to any practical use in the last say 6000 years?

    Any thoughts on why we are the first people to decide it means something?

    Maybe when gravity is taken into consideration this magnet car principle stops?

    Ya know like if we put magnets on a wheel and tried to rotate it using this idea.

    I am trying to think of ways that might make this magnetically driven car into something that is useful. If cars were built like this we might need to make them out of non metallic structures so as not to inhibit the magnetic forces?

    It seems like someone would have used this magnetic car principle on a skate board by now if it indeed does work.

    Any thoughts on why we might be the first people to decide this should be a working principle applied to practical engineering?

    I have not tried this yet. Have you tried this? Or is this a video you found on the web? Or is this really a first hand experiment done by you and this is you in the video?

    I know this is a long line of questioning for such a playful suggestion.

    We first must establish who is the author and the purposes that the investigator had in mind.

    You are dealing with inquisitive minds, investigators also, who are unwilling to spend time on anything less than something having a basis for concrete facts.

    I could use these tiny experiments for my children for learning science. We home school and when i saw these video's I thought how nice it would be if this was not a hoax, so i could give the children these simple blocks and spools to learn with.

    Sorry about the rant I had changing the subject on your thread.

    The experiments you show seem excellent at least for children?

    Only if you can actually verify that they do work first hand.

    Mike

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    • #17
      Originally posted by BroMikey
      Any thoughts on why we are the first people to decide it means something?
      Maybe when gravity is taken into consideration this magnet car principle stops?...
      There you go.
      That is what I meant with:
      Originally posted by myself
      Really great video's!
      And they belong in this place, because I know a few people here who would certainly be fooled by them. Sometimes I really wonder what people learn at school.


      Ernst.

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      • #18
        Ufo Tech

        Originally posted by Ernst View Post
        There you go.
        That is what I meant with:



        Ernst.
        This stuff is for metaphysical purposes only

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        • #19
          fakery

          the tilting stage trick. His waste never moved from the wall and the camera shakes on one of the tilts.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Hrothgar View Post
            the tilting stage trick. His waste never moved from the wall and the camera shakes on one of the tilts.
            I don't think the magnet-toy video should have made it through veproject1's QC-stage - there's lots of camera-shake whenever he goes to tilt the set.

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            • #21
              Magi

              Originally posted by Hrothgar View Post
              the tilting stage trick. His waste never moved from the wall and the camera shakes on one of the tilts.
              Whats a matter boys don't like to be played by magic men? Illusion is all those oneness folks have to captivate the underclassmen. This is where we stand in thankful awe of the magnificent machine.

              Here it comes , here it comes




              Mikey

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              • #22
                tilted table? how to explain a water level here
                Wedge - shaped vehicle - YouTube

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by TheoriaApophasis View Post
                  Im sorry we let your thread get 'hijacked"

                  OUR fault. Your vids are AWESOME STUFF, and are mental gasoline for thinking

                  back to the regularly scheduled programming
                  Here's one I know much about. He got me with it, but I did learn something you can only learn by having the real-deal setting on your desk and playing with it:

                  Magnetism & Gravity 永久機関 - YouTube

                  The work Ken has done will explain it to you fully, but without that knowledge, forget it. All you will be left looking at is the horse poop.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Dog-One View Post
                    Here's one I know much about. He got me with it, but I did learn something you can only learn by having the real-deal setting on your desk and playing with it:

                    Magnetism & Gravity 永久機関 - YouTube

                    The work Ken has done will explain it to you fully, but without that knowledge, forget it. All you will be left looking at is the horse poop.


                    its a cute video, I like it, .....makes people THINK

                    fake or not, no big deal






                    better video:

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wm6oEhynTQ

                    Last edited by TheoriaApophasis; 09-30-2014, 02:14 AM.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by TheoriaApophasis View Post
                      its a cute video, I like it, .....makes people THINK

                      fake or not, no big deal
                      But the question is...

                      How many average dudes would know what to expect just by looking at it?

                      Nevermind how it was faked.


                      I can look at it now and know exactly what it will do. Anyone want to take a guess?

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                      • #26
                        horse poop

                        Originally posted by Dog-One View Post
                        Here's one I know much about. He got me with it, but I did learn something you can only learn by having the real-deal setting on your desk and playing with it:

                        Magnetism & Gravity 永久機関 - YouTube

                        The work Ken has done will explain it to you fully, but without that knowledge, forget it. All you will be left looking at is the horse poop.
                        The magnet applies a horizontal force to the ball, gravity a vertical force. Both combined a force radial (outward) with respect to the wheel. This force is counteracted by a radial (inward) force from the wheel on the ball (perpendicular to the plane of contact).
                        Net force = 0
                        no rotation
                        Fake.

                        (and no need to go through Ken's work)


                        Ernst.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Ernst View Post
                          The magnet applies a horizontal force to the ball
                          Ernst.

                          NO SUCH THING


                          NEITHER horizontal NOR a denotative FORCE

                          ABSOLUTELY no "horizontal"


                          ( I ASSUME YOU MEANT RADIAL)......also NOT A RADIAL "force" either


                          See my book on the FERROCELL on the shrinking SPHERE of dielectric VOIDANCE.


                          you can also see this SPHERE with (crappy) iron filings:





                          see that in the MIDDLE? Its a SPHERE, and its SHRINKING..........horizontal / radial my ARSE


                          Doesnt exit, NOR has anyone ever SEEN such nonsense


                          EVER







                          Youve much to learn, which is no big deal.

                          that you THINK YOU KNOW, and wont learn, thats the BIG deal, but its YOUR PROBLEM.


                          Apparently , regardless of my book, you dont know simplex things.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by TheoriaApophasis
                            see that in the MIDDLE? Its a SPHERE, and its SHRINKING..........horizontal / radial my ARSE

                            Thanks for enlightening us on your spherical, shrinking, horizontal/radial arse!


                            Ernst.

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                            • #29
                              Made For Eachother

                              Originally posted by Ernst View Post

                              Thanks for enlightening us on your spherical, shrinking, horizontal/radial arse!


                              Ernst.
                              That does sound about right.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Ernst View Post

                                Thanks for enlightening us on your spherical, shrinking, horizontal/radial arse!


                                Ernst.


                                All too happy to correct your errors, however there are far too many to keep track of.



                                By the way, that isnt "MY" sphere, its the same sphere across the entire UNIVERSE


                                Dull minds take no note of such IMPORTANT THINGS

                                Lucky for you, I DO.

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