Fusion Chip OU Piggy Back Output Coil.

[Allen Burgess]

JLN clearly demonstrated how increasing "Magnetic Core Viscosity" lowers the R.P.M. threshold for "Lenz propulsion". Take another look at Gadgetmall's self charging Bedini. The coil core runs through the coil and out the backside. He then places a "Piggyback Output Coil" over the core loops back to source, and succeeds in charging his run battery and a capacitor. How does his output rider coil effect the coil core viscosity or (VRM)?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lczz...lWkKQ&index=85

Here's a link to JLN'S "Viscous Remnant Magnetization" DLE "Delayed Lenz Effect" experiment:

DLE-TEST20 : The VISCOUS REMANENT MAGNETIZATION (VRM) experiment with the DLE-TB v1

One more essential video from Doug Konzen demonstrating "DLE" with a magnet backed ferrite core and shorted coil:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaaEdGPO7C8

[Matthew Jones]

You can just use a 20 ohm coil of 30 awg and get the same effect. You don't have to have the magnets backing them. In Konzens video at least its just the shorted coil that is doing the job.

You can even pull power off of them if they are tuned. You have to pull it from the peak wave. To tune them you have to build the motor use multifiliar coil and serialize all the windings. Then you start paralleling or skipping the windings all together until you find a point at which the coil does not accelerate the motor but does not lag the motor either when shorted. Then you know the configuration of the coil you need. Make that coil with that ohm to wire distance ratio and you can get power off them by shorting them at the peak wave.

Matt

[BroMikey]

Tell ME How?

Hey Dave keep sending those beauty links I eat them for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

I didn't see THAT piggy backed SG but that is quite believable since 26 percent free mechanical is always present with the Bedini wheel, however usable practical excess power is nil without the rest of the store. John did uncover his secret for the bigger machines that ARE practical in PART 22. Buy it and live Bedini SG builders.

JNL labs does not have a voice. The experiments range in the 1000's with no end in sight. He is always careful not to loop anything or prove conclusively his fun experimental slide shows.

Almost everything on the web in either incomplete or inconclusive and that is unacceptable to the serous inventor.

Doug is your best choice because he will not hid things. I saw that video yes and almost gotten it was there.

Keep trying to dig up something real and we can go over it together to see if it seem viable. Did you throw out those huge rings cores? Say it isn't so. Now all you need is a fourth one and you could built the BiTT.

Mike

JLN clearly demonstrated how increasing "Magnetic Core Viscosity" lowers the R.P.M. threshold for "Lenz propulsion". Take another look at Gadgetmall's self charging Bedini. The coil core runs through the coil and out the backside. He then places a "Piggyback Output Coil" over the core loops back to source, and succeeds in charging his run battery and a capacitor. How does his output rider coil effect the coil core viscosity or (VRM)?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lczz...lWkKQ&index=85

Here's a link to JLN'S "Viscous Remnant Magnetization" DLE "Delayed Lenz Effect" experiment:

DLE-TEST20 : The VISCOUS REMANENT MAGNETIZATION (VRM) experiment with the DLE-TB v1

One more essential video from Doug Konzen demonstrating "DLE" with a magnet backed ferrite core and shorted coil:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaaEdGPO7C8

[Allen Burgess]

Multiple piggyback coils.

I believe Fusionchip is delaying his output coil Lenz Effect to coincide with the power coil pulse. I explained why multiple DLE output coils merely share the propulsion effect as they would Lenz Drag output. Coupled with the power coil piggy back style I think they would compound the output along with the acceleration rather then share it.

[Allen Burgess]

You can just use a 20 ohm coil of 30 awg and get the same effect. You don't have to have the magnets backing them. In Konzens video at least its just the shorted coil that is doing the job.

You can even pull power off of them if they are tuned. You have to pull it from the peak wave. To tune them you have to build the motor use multifiliar coil and serialize all the windings. Then you start paralleling or skipping the windings all together until you find a point at which the coil does not accelerate the motor but does not lag the motor either when shorted. Then you know the configuration of the coil you need. Make that coil with that ohm to wire distance ratio and you can get power off them by shorting them at the peak wave.

Matt

The shorted coil is essential to achieving DLE, but the addition of the magnets makes a difference. One needs to understand the relationship between what JLN calls "Remnant Magnetic Viscosity" and the DLE effect, to understand what effect the piggyback output coil has on the delayed Lenz effect.

Doug Konzen's core magnets increase the magnetic viscosity of the ferrite core, making it even more difficult for the output coil to succeed at shifting it's polarity. This lowers the DLE R.P.M. threshold. You certainly need the coil shorted in both cases, but the rotor needs to race up at a much higher speed to get the DLE with out the efficiency loss induced in the core by the addition of the magnets. It's important to understand the relationship between "Magnetic Core Viscosity" and "Lenz Delay Threshold" to understand how Fusionchip's "Piggyback Outputcoil" achieves "Lenz Delay Acceleration" at a lower rotor speed!

Increasing the number of "Power and Piggyback Coils" will increase the COP.

[erfinder]

There is no scientific evidence of the so-called "delayed Lenz" phenomena. The the concept was created by us (figuratively speaking). We stumbled onto something that we couldn't quantify nor qualify, and in desperation to make ourselves look cool among our peers we called this thing that we could not place, "Delayed Lenz". Look at who is on the list of those who identify with the phenomena as such.....and look who is absent from the list. Most would say nah....and these folks would be responding in haste, and in ignorance.

What most of you fail to remember is the coil is trying to maintain the same current flow that was present prior to opening the switch. This is the magic folks, what you have is a magnetic field in an open circuit condition. Lenz either doesn't apply, or is inverted.


Regards

[Bob Smith]

There is no scientific evidence of the so-called "delayed Lenz" phenomena. The the concept was created by us (figuratively speaking). We stumbled onto something that we couldn't quantify nor qualify, and in desperation to make ourselves look cool among our peers we called this thing that we could not place, "Delayed Lenz". Look at who is on the list of those who identify with the phenomena as such.....and look who is absent from the list. Most would say nah....and these folks would be responding in haste, and in ignorance.

What most of you fail to remember is the coil is trying to maintain the same current flow that was present prior to opening the switch. This is the magic folks, what you have is a magnetic field in an open circuit condition. Lenz either doesn't apply, or is inverted.
Regards

If this is the case then, do we not need to look at the relationship between the coil's winding configuration (topology) and the dielectric? The way I understand it, Lenz' Law is a response to an impulse, a response that originates in the dielectric medium. If Lenz is inverted, then would that not mean that the Lenz forces/dielectric response are essentially working with the system to add energy from "without" - that is, from the dielectric itself?
My 2cents.
Bo

[Matthew Jones]

The shorted coil is essential to achieving DLE, but the addition of the magnets makes a difference. One needs to understand the relationship between what JLN calls "Remnant Magnetic Viscosity" and the DLE effect, to understand what effect the piggyback output coil has on the delayed Lenz effect.

Doug Konzen's core magnets increase the magnetic viscosity of the ferrite core, making it even more difficult for the output coil to succeed at shifting it's polarity. This lowers the DLE R.P.M. threshold. You certainly need the coil shorted in both cases, but the rotor needs to race up at a much higher speed to get the DLE with out the efficiency loss induced in the core by the addition of the magnets. It's important to understand the relationship between "Magnetic Core Viscosity" and "Lenz Delay Threshold" to understand how Fusionchip's "Piggyback Outputcoil" achieves "Lenz Delay Acceleration" at a lower rotor speed!

Increasing the number of "Power and Piggyback Coils" will increase the COP.

All I can say after some great success with just a coil is, maybe you should try it. LOL You'll see what I mean.
Slow speeds do not require anything better than quality switching. You can fire gen coils between magnetic positions.

Matt

[erfinder]

If this is the case then, do we not need to look at the relationship between the coil's winding configuration (topology) and the dielectric? The way I understand it, Lenz' Law is a response to an impulse, a response that originates in the dielectric medium. If Lenz is inverted, then would that not mean that the Lenz forces/dielectric response are essentially working with the system to add energy from "without" - that is, from the dielectric itself?
My 2cents.
Bo

The point of my post was not to pick up where I left off on another subject. The relations between turns in the coil is significant, however, not solely for the reasons you are asking. When looking into this specific location, you must ask yourself and know the relation that the field has to itself in this point. The relation that the field has to itself at this location will determine whether you have dielectric or magnetic interactions at these points. Once you understand what is taking place between turns, you can expand your horizons and begin engineering these conditions to take place between coils. This isn't something that you will comprehend simply by my "saying" this or that, you must setup and conduct proper experiments, and be as honest with yourself as possible when reviewing your test results.

Lenz law basically tells us that the induced is of such a polarity that it opposes the inducing. What is not considered by the majority is that the inducing can be a collapsing field! If the inducing is a collapsing field how does Lenz apply? Its clear how it applies to field interactions which are more or less steady state, no guidance is to be found when the inducing is a collapsing field. In addition to this, the law as penned is directed at coils which are shorted on themselves, in this instance however, attention should be given to the fact that the coil is trying to maintain the magnetic field that was established in the shorted state in the non shorted state. Whether the magnetic field is decaying or not is immaterial, the significance of the situation is that you have a magnetic field associated with a coil in the non shorted state! When we take a step back and review what we have, we see that we have a rapidly decaying magnetic field associated with a wire which is no longer in the shorted condition. The self induction and the collapsing magnetic field together gives us the basic ingredient we find in a basic generator, here to the disciplined eye we see the generator in the generator. This second generator does not follow the laws which govern the first.

It should be clear to those who seriously research these things that the collapsing field as source of change in flux, changes at a rate which is orders of magnitude beyond anything that we could do mechanically, in addition to this, we must remember that normal induction is also taking place, the self induced potential and the normal induced potential add. Here is the introduction to a mechanism which can give the effects that we call delayed Lenz. I know this to be true because I am pretty good at doing it. When you can accomplish this effect with an air core system......call me, we have lots to discuss.


Regards

[Allen Burgess]

Wave reflection.

Quote from JLN:

Comments :

"We notice on the curve above, that the braking effect (common Lenz effect) and the accelerating effect (reverse Lenz effect) of the rotating magnetic rotor (blue curve) is DIRECTLY LINKED to the phase shifting curve of the magnetic fluctuation (red curve). The acceleration of the rotor is maximal when the phase angle switches from postive to negative (the green rectangle area at a distance of 30mm). The loaded secondary coil is set at the phase shifting point and acts as a wave reflector, it returns the magnetic wave in opposition phase to the magnetic rotor in rotation, producing its acceleration".

The unique aspect of "Fusionchip's" piggy back coil is that the wave reflection from the output coil is in phase with the power pulse!