BiTT OverUnity Transformer Bi-Toroid Thane H. Bill A.

[BroMikey]

netepete45

Pete wrote back and said this:



Hi Michael, Thanks for doing the numbers. it looks good so far. I have two more discoveries that may be important that seem to produce more power. Will upload soon. Filament bulbs produce a better result. Removal of e-core tops on negative side make a big difference. Bigger pick up coils produce a better result.
Thanks again.

MIG 2 - YouTube

Here is my response to pete

Hi Pete

Does the scope shot stay the same? Well let's say it is close to the same around 75 Degrees Input = 11.67 X.03 = .035 X Cos75 = .00875. Input = .0088 rounded off not .035

The BIT and the MIG work off of reactive power, that is the point of the scope angle.

.Output .0368 divided-by .0088 = 4.18 0r 418 percent COP.

The scope shot can even be approx. Reactive power wins the war. A normal transformer with one primary and one secondary has a phase angle of 12-15 degrees. Never much higher.

So in that case an input to the primary such as yours would go like this.

Same input values X cos of 15 degrees.

Okay looks like this

11.67 X .03 = .035 just as you have shown, however some of this power in a normal transformer is REAL power and some REACTIVE. The cos separates the two.

Like this

.035 X COS of 15 degrees = .034 is the REAL power being burned up with .001 REACTIVE power returning back to the circuit and recirculating or recycled.

The COS of 15 degrees is .97 or 97 percent but the Bitt MIG is the other way around.

If the phase angle in your BiTT is 75 degrees on the scope then COS 75 =.25 or 25 percent REAL burned up power with the other 75 percent being returned to the lines for recycling.

Michael (Central USA)

Thanks for the heads up I sent pete this page

[Dog-One]

Accel Under Load

Hope you like this one...

The guy is a little brash, but I got to hand it to him, it looks like the real deal to me:
low resistance low inductance no magnetic circuit acceleration under short on Vimeo

There are some amps there too you may notice.

[BroMikey]

Pete wrote back and said this:



Hi Michael, Thanks for doing the numbers. it looks good so far. I have two more discoveries that may be important that seem to produce more power. Will upload soon. Filament bulbs produce a better result. Removal of e-core tops on negative side make a big difference. Bigger pick up coils produce a better result.
Thanks again.

Here is Pete's response to the probe circuit. And Mine.

Thanks Michael, I will have a crack at it.


Hey Pete
Good Man , now listen to this. You may get better or worse COP results from input output multiplications but your phase will shift over on you and without the COS of the phase angle you would be fooled. Yes I see all your videos on the scope for the scopians(Smile)

Unless you have a 2 channel scope (Obviously you do) you can't get the phase angle of the PRIMARY. Forget the secondaries, watch that PRIMARY especially when loading you will see it shift with every alteration to the circuit. Yes a resistive load is the best and diodes are not resistors only.

The filament bulbs are what we all use, as instructed in the BiTT plans.

Also tuning with caps may improve voltages on the output but don't run the phase angle to far on the PRIMARY. Try to keep the phase angle shift closest to 90 degrees. This will give you the best results.

Michael Central USA

[BroMikey]

MIG BITT - YouTube

more interesting stuff from Pete, looking forward to his next, a versatile approach and setup there. He is planning to do the same setup in some sort of parallel, also kudos to you Mikey for keeping everyone up all this,

you should team up with Pete and do a money bomb, Alex Jones style , when you have your shopping list ready

Mike

[BroMikey]

Ordering Delay

Hi Pete

Oh Yeah one more thing
I see in one video you show a .035 input and a .0368 output with no phase angle trying to look at this like a normal transformer that burns 97 percent of what it uses. They people like that better because all they know is a normal design.

These same people will say that you meter is off a little and they will make is a 97 percent power burner in their tidy little engineering world(Smile) what blows these brainacs way is showing them the phase angle. After that our finest Techies can only stammer.

Don't forget to show them their needed piece of the puzzle. After that we will all have to rewrite all the books of higher knowledge and sit them in a corner to learn.(Smile)

Michael



neatpete45
3:03 PM

Thanks Michael, I went to get parts locally to test but not in stock so I will have to buy online or head to big smoke. I appreciate your guidance.



BroMikey
3:53 PM

You are very welcome Pete. I think it is a shame that people COULD help one another to exceed the sum of what the first person found out by bringing the next experimenter up to where they left off.

No sense watching someone do all of the tests spending precious time and then not share with them what took months to find out.

Resistive loads only, cap tuning, watching the phase angle continually. When an engineer comes out upon request to do power balancing tricks they look at REACTIVE power VS REAL. This is done using the COS of the phase angle use this one

Web 2.0 scientific calculator

I am looking forward to your adventure.
If you can keep the phase at 78degrees .207 means only 20 percent of the real power in the circuit is being burnt up with 80 percent recirculated.

The coil shorting had me thinking you might be getting a higher COP but if the phase angle shifted to 45 degrees then nothing was gained because the real power consumed went up along with your increase on the output.

Keep thinking about what I am rewriting for you and you will be ahead, leading us.

[SkyWatcher]

Dogone, thanks for sharing.
Do you know if he is using cores in those coils and what gauge wire is that.
Someone needs to start a thread for that device setup.
peace love light

[Dog-One]

Erfinder Demonstration

Dogone, thanks for sharing.
Do you know if he is using cores in those coils and what gauge wire is that.
Someone needs to start a thread for that device setup.
peace love light

Not sure of the gauge, but there are six insulated strands per coil wind, hexfilar. He is using steel welding rod as the core and claims these coils where original Bedini SG coils. The core rods extend outside of the bobbin about 1/2 inch, which he says is important and are smaller in diameter than the rotating disk magnets.

I will caution he claimed these coils were setup in bucking fashion, but after close examination of the rotor magnets polarity, this doesn't seem to be the case. The second coil is flipped from the first, but there are six magnets, NSNSNS, so when one coil sees N, the other coil sees S and since it is flipped, well, you get the picture. This is simply a basic two-coil generator.

Without a means to pull the coils away from the rotating magnets, we can't be sure if the rotor would accelerate that way too. If it does, then obviously the prime mover is doing work to overcome the coil/core drag.

I apologize for posting this in hast without a more thorough analysis. It's worth taking a look at, but I would hold-off at this time attempting a replication.

[BroMikey]

Gerard Energy

Dogone, thanks for sharing.
Do you know if he is using cores in those coils and what gauge wire is that.
Someone needs to start a thread for that device setup.
peace love light

Hey Sky

feel free to show Gerard's setup here in this Gerard energy thread. That is what this thread is already here for.

Also related projects that lend to a similar approach.

Gerard style radiant production is the same as many others. Pulsing coils.

[Dog-One]

Mike, your Spanish good? If so, you may like this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yT1B7ivgEg

[kEhYo77]

Hi.
Have you seen THIS Akula video?

It can't get simpler than that.
Very easy configuration to try.
Primary - Separate secondaries - Separate, identical LC tank circuits on far sides.

Tune for resonance, observe the magic happen

[BroMikey]

I understand Him

Mike, your Spanish good? If so, you may like this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yT1B7ivgEg

No good on the Spanish but I could follow him well.

It looks like small choke winding inside. To the right side.

I think it is a converter?

Mikey

[BroMikey]

I like it

Hi.
Have you seen THIS Akula video?

It can't get simpler than that.
Very easy configuration to try.
Primary - Separate secondaries - Separate, identical LC tank circuits on far sides.

Tune for resonance, observe the magic happen

No I didn't see it, til now, great post Akula is using a Bi_toroid with two even larger coils to short with using resistors.

Like Netepete45 just showed us.

But I could understand how much was being used up to get of that light.

Keep finding these video.s This is the gold.

Mikey

[kEhYo77]

No I didn't see it, til now, great post Akula is using a Bi_toroid with two even larger coils to short with using resistors.

Like Netepete45 just showed us.

But I could understand how much was being used up to get of that light.

Keep finding these video.s This is the gold.

Mikey

Those long elements are capacitors not resistors.
I understand a bit of Russian.
The power going in is DC around 22V @ 1A ~ 25Watts , he says.
Single transistor is giving a kick only using that amount of power
to sustain two LC tanks in resonance.
Those two bulbs are 60Watt each rated 36V.
So on output vs input is 120:25, COP around 480%!

[BroMikey]

Very Well Then

Those long elements are capacitors not resistors.
I understand a bit of Russian.
The power going in is DC around 22V @ 1A ~ 25Watts , he says.
Single transistor is giving a kick only using that amount of power
to sustain two LC tanks in resonance.
Those two bulbs are 60Watt each rated 36V.
So on output vs input is 120:25, COP around 480%!

I didn't know these facts, so that makes a great deal of difference.

Thanks again, now who ever heard of 36v bulbs?

I will look on Ebay?

Okay Caps then tune the larger outside coil windings, of course caps are resistors so both values play into the resonation. Very nice.

Maybe a foil cap I think then.

Now I have more facts to run with.

Mikey

[kEhYo77]

Low voltage bulbs are in use in some countries in communal blocks of flats in the basements/staircases to make it hard for people to steal electricity or the bulbs
I think 12V car headlight bulbs should do the trick as he is aiming for a low resistance load here, in my opinion.