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  • #31
    This scope shot shows an AC sine wave that is like mine. What I mean is that the wave is slightly more pointed at the top and so on and so forth. I am an inexperienced individual who doesn't know the meaning of most waves.

    What surprises me is that the people here who are doing this work have questioned the shape of my wave form as if it might have come from a generator of some kind. I am shocked that people who have run a scope for say 40 years don't recognize this wave form.


    It would be nice from my perspective as an underclassmen if someone with serious scope experience could clarify the true meaning as to why Thanes waveform is a slightly different shape than classical AC sine shapes.

    The reason I ask is because when I run my Bi-toroid off of my variac I get this same varied wave shape on the input.

    Some have mentioned that because the wave shape looks odd to them this makes it impossible to measure the input of output results.

    Thank you for resolving my question.

    I am only just now starting to understand these technology and feel that knowing what the wave forms mean hold some significance.

    Notice the more pointed voltage sine wave? This will require the attention of a veteran in the field who has seen scope shots over a period of decades as scopes have evolved from analog to digital, is my guess.

    I don't know.




    Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
    http://www.overunity.com/7833/thane-.../48058/image//


    Last edited by BroMikey; 11-22-2014, 08:59 PM.

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    • #32
      Wave shape Explanation

      Also the current wave shape should be addressed as well. For instance when taking scope shots of the B-Toroidal Transformer in the idling no load condition Vs. loaded state the current wave seems erratic to me but that is just me.

      I don't understand why the current wave is so disrupted with loaded.

      Here are some shots from another mans scope and mine. You will note that the current is broken up more as the the load increases.

      I feel that these are easy questions for anyone who uses a scope but like I said I am not a veteran, needing assistance to understand what is going on there.

      Thanks again, Mikey






      This is my shot loaded



      Here is my shot with no load at 90 degrees out of phase which is awesome.



      Here is a mans finding with a no load



      Here is mine loaded again and the wave is really broken up. Normal?


      I did not see this condition with the current on a standard transformer.

      On a conventional transformer the voltage and current look smooth and in sync.

      Thank you for your reply.

      Mike

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      • #33
        Harmonics in Coils

        If would appear that I have answered my own question about why real world waveforms do not look like a classical theoretical/fictitious wave found in a school book.

        As it turns out the wave shapes of Bi-toroidal transformers pose an ever growing number of harmonics that show up on a scope as a complex waveform without generators.

        Here is the basic conclusion why my 3 coils that are being fed by line power look different from what people are use to seeing on a scope.

        This site deals with normal transformer operation so there is no out of phase relationship as with the BiTT.

        In my current waveform, harmonics radically alter the standard wave shape with loading due to reflected and or recirculated power.

        Here is an actual mains shotInteresting waveform and harmonic analysis of mains power. - YouTube

        I believe that this is the current that John bedini might be talking about when John has mentioned over the years that "THERE IS ANOTHER CURRENT THERE' when talking about circuits recycling energy.

        Current with reflected harmonics, producing complex waves without generators.

        Harmonics Made Simple | archive content from Electrical Construction & Maintenance (EC&M) Magazine




        Last edited by BroMikey; 11-22-2014, 11:19 PM.

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        • #34
          Basic Sinusoidal Waveforms

          Since many of us are out of the loop so to speak retaining the knowledge of AC sinusoidal here is a refresher for us schoolies


          After, we can be better equipped to apply AC to a Bi_toroidal Transformer. It is hard enough to remember all that can be learned with conventional schooling without adding a new technology.

          After this maybe I can find more on harmonic interactions in coils such as are found in audio circuits. Waveforms included.



          Basic Sinusoidal Waveform - YouTube



          The AC Wave Form, Peak Voltage, RMS, and Amplifier Power Ratings - YouTube



          Overtones, harmonics and Additive synthesis - YouTube


          Physics IV A1 Simple Harmonic Waves - YouTube
          Last edited by BroMikey; 11-23-2014, 03:38 AM.

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          • #35
            AC waved Audio Amplifiers

            Here I will share the videos I am watching on how to best generate an AC sin wave using an lm324 operational amplifier plus amplify it using an AB audio amplifier. And many other facts.

            Sine Wave Generation with Op-Amp and Transistor Amplifier - YouTube

            variable sine wave generator schematic - YouTube

            A simple sine wave generator with a 741 opamp. Of course you don't need a rotary switch when you only have to generate 1 frequency, for instance for the 1-100 milliHenry inductance meter schematic (on my channel). Upload in relation to my book "schematics 2, audio amplifiers and loudspeaker boxes".
            Isbn 978-1-4475-7336-4 (Apple E book). I published a good 2 transistor Wien Bridge sine wave generator working between 20 Hertz and 19,2 KHz on 7 may 2013 on the Lulu website. Title: "two transistor sine wave oscillator 20 Hz-19,2 KHz", author Ko Tilman.






            Mike

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            • #36
              Bill Alek Website

              This link takes us to Bill Alek's website as he talks about how the BiTT/SFT functions as a super conductor at room temperature. He refers to the Cooper pairs and more here he is "


              Bill wrote:
              Cooper Pair is tunneling through the barrier called, "Einstein's Theory of Special Relativity."

              Now, what is so remarkable about composite boson spin '0' particles is that they have the ability to travel faster than the speed of light! This is called "Quantum Tunneling"


              Read here
              SCIENCE"]SCIENCE[/URL]













              In the SFT or Split-Flux Transformer, a similar action occurs. Because there are two output coils wired in a bifilar configuration, identical output current flows, but in opposite direction. An opposing magnetomotive force is created causing "Cooper Pairs" to form as shown above. This phenomenon occurs below, at or above room-temperature. The SFT effectively becomes a Superconductor at any temperature! How do we know this phenomena is occurring? Because the primary input coil becomes an "Ideal Inductor." In other words, the phase angle between the voltage and current approaches 90 degrees. I can easily demonstrate this phenomena. NO practical transformer on Earth can do this except the SFT!!! What this means is the SFT driving a REAL load consumes NO REAL power, or Pin -> 0 Watts! The ultimate overall efficiency of the SFT is nearly infinite!

              So, imagine that - nearly Infinite efficiency! This is critical for understanding gravity and how this device interacts with gravity due to the inertialess reaction of "Cooper Pairs." Counter-rotating opposing magnetic fields is the KEY towards building antigravity technologies.

              More coming

              Mike

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              • #37
                Doing your homework

                What's the connection between FREE Energy, Antigravity and Superconductivity?
                By William S. Alek
                President and CEO
                March 16, 2014

                Knowing this answer is the KEY! A KEY to liberating humanity from artificial scarcity brought about by The Matrix, the system in which we ALL live.


                What Causes Superconductivity?

                A key observation in this article about Superconductivity is the following "... the crucial realization is that superconductivity is associated with a bound pair of electrons, each having equal but opposite spin and angular momentum, traveling through the metal ..." This is also known as "Cooper Pairing."

                http://qudev.ethz.ch/content/courses..._of_SC_6_7.pdf

                The key is opposite spin and angular momentum! Because of opposite spin and angular momentum, the spin and angular momentum of the pair CANCEL. The pair loses it's inertia and effectively DECOUPLEs from the inertial field - the pair moves in the metal with NO resistance. In other words, the metal has NO electrical resistance and becomes an "ideal conductor" of electricity.

                An almost identical effect occurs in the SFT or Split-Flux Transformer with one important difference. The SFT becomes a Superconductor at ROOM TEMPERATURE! This is how its done: You'll observe in the diagram above that electrons with opposite spin and angular momentum form "Cooper Pairs" due to lattice forces of the metal. The phenomena can only occur when the metal is conducting current at very cold temperatures (i.e., when cooled with liquid nitrogen). Above that critical temperature, phonon interaction breaks up the pairing of the electrons. Each electron now has spin and angular momentum. Thus, connecting each individual electron to the inertial field giving the metal electrical resistance.

                In the SFT or Split-Flux Transformer, a similar action occurs. Because there are two output coils wired in a bifilar configuration, identical output current flows, but in opposite direction. An opposing magnetomotive force is created causing "Cooper Pairs" to form as shown above. This phenomenon occurs below, at or above room-temperature. The SFT effectively becomes a Superconductor at any temperature! How do we know this phenomena is occurring? Because the primary input coil becomes an "Ideal Inductor." In other words, the phase angle between the voltage and current approaches 90 degrees. I can easily demonstrate this phenomena. NO practical transformer on Earth can do this except the SFT!!! What this means is the SFT driving a REAL load consumes NO REAL power, or Pin -> 0 Watts! The ultimate overall efficiency of the SFT is nearly infinite!






                So, imagine that - nearly Infinite efficiency! This is critical for understanding gravity and how this device interacts with gravity due to the inertialess reaction of "Cooper Pairs." Counter-rotating opposing magnetic fields is the KEY towards building antigravity technologies. The craft is essentially transformed into a macroscopic "Cooper Pair," DECOUPLED from the inertial field. FREE Energy is a byproduct of the process.

                In my opinion, this is perhaps the GREATEST invention of the century, perhaps ever! Because it can transform and replace The Matrix.

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                • #38
                  Tonights testing

                  Tonight I read up on many facts and used Bill's diagram this time to run tests. Before this I had the two secondaries in parallel. Now that I have hooked the the two output coils in series the complex wave distortions are all gone.

                  The current was distorting in parallel.

                  Here is the diagram



                  Now that i have it running like this, let's run the figures

                  I loaded the output down till the phase angle shifted about 2 or 3 degrees, this leaves me at better than an 80 degree phase angle, we will say 80

                  My input
                  5.8v RMS X .140 a = .812 watts reactive X .175cos= .142 watts real

                  My output
                  2.82v X .084a = .237 watts real

                  My COP

                  .237 divided by .142 = 1.66 = 166 percent efficient

                  Got to get my amp going next.

                  Mike Everything is just ducky

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by BroMikey View Post

                    My COP

                    .237 divided by .142 = 1.66 = 166 percent efficient

                    Got to get my amp going next.

                    Mike Everything is just ducky
                    Good show Mike. You've clearly gotten past where I'm still stuck.

                    Any chance you can work your way up to about a full amp or so? I'd be curious if your COP number slumps or gets better.

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                    • #40
                      Cop Crash

                      Oh absolutely is does crash big time. This amp draw it all it can do a 60hz. Pathetic I know. But once the amp is running higher frequencies I should get 1 watt through. However you must remember how sloppy this winding is.

                      I still have not gotten equally secondaries. One is 180 and the other is 170 turns/feet approx.

                      Also my primary has got to go.

                      In addition the primary links are only half as wide as required, so once this is all done and I run some harmonics this little guy might be good for 4-6 watts. Just guessing.

                      Thanks for the pat on the head, dog-One.


                      That information on Quantum tunneling and cooper pairing is very important to our resolve.

                      Remember too that all last month I had my hook up diagram posted and it was improperly connected and no one caught it. This shows me that we have no idea what we are doing half the time.

                      This is why i stated in past posts that this is going to take time.

                      What is very significant about the connection diagram of Bill Alek's VS the pulsed circuit KURT showed is when I use Bill's the COP goes up.

                      Make sure you connect the two secondaries right, that being in series. Kurt's was in parallel and Bill's in series. When I hook mine like Kurt(Mr Clean) did, I get wild harmonic distortion as posts previously, as I load it down.

                      According to all data I have on harmonic distortion skin effect where heating is addressed is a direct relation to losses. Not what we want.

                      On the other hand when going in the series mode both current and voltage are smooth upon loading. The phase shift is less when loading as well.

                      Mike




                      Originally posted by Dog-One View Post
                      Good show Mike. You've clearly gotten past where I'm still stuck.

                      Any chance you can work your way up to about a full amp or so? I'd be curious if your COP number slumps or gets better.
                      Last edited by BroMikey; 11-23-2014, 06:38 PM.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
                        Tonight I read up on many facts and used Bill's diagram this time to run tests. Before this I had the two secondaries in parallel. Now that I have hooked the the two output coils in series the complex wave distortions are all gone.

                        The current was distorting in parallel.

                        Here is the diagram



                        Now that i have it running like this, let's run the figures

                        I loaded the output down till the phase angle shifted about 2 or 3 degrees, this leaves me at better than an 80 degree phase angle, we will say 80

                        My input
                        5.8v RMS X .140 a = .812 watts reactive X .175cos= .142 watts real

                        My output
                        2.82v X .084a = .237 watts real

                        My COP

                        .237 divided by .142 = 1.66 = 166 percent efficient

                        Got to get my amp going next.

                        Mike Everything is just ducky
                        Hi Mike,

                        Can you please explain your numbers in more depth. The voltage going out is less then half the voltage going in so in my mind it looks like you are well below 1 on the COP?

                        -Altrez

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                        • #42
                          Reactive Power

                          Originally posted by altrez View Post
                          Hi Mike,

                          Can you please explain your numbers in more depth. The voltage going out is less then half the voltage going in so in my mind it looks like you are well below 1 on the COP?

                          -Altrez

                          @Altrez

                          Remember we must include the phase angle of 80 degrees or better. My waveform only shifted a tiny bit from 90 degrees.

                          I guess you have not yet grasped these calculations.

                          To make a long story short the input power in not real power it is mostly reactive with the BiTT/SFT

                          Do you understand the difference? When reactive power is read on a meter by your local power company the phase angle is included in the math.

                          For instance power coming off the pole from the oil filled transformer way up high has some reactive power and some real power working in the lines and coils at all times.

                          A standard calculation for these power company transformers look like this.

                          Volts X amps = watts X 18 degree COS

                          Have you looked at this before? It is as simple as I just showed you. Okay let's carry this out. Say the line brings in 100vac to keep it simple (We all know it is 117vac)

                          Okay so a voltage of

                          100v X 1 amp = 100 watts (Correct?) Yes but there is some reactive power in the lines that is not being burned up. So to find out how much reactive and how much real power we must look at the scope to find the phase angle.

                          A normal transformer is around 15-18 degrees so lets say it is very efficient at 18 degrees.

                          Here is a scientific calculator online to find the COS of 18 degrees

                          Web 2.0 scientific calculator


                          Great question Altrez Okay so the COS of 18 degrees = .95 or 95percent of the 100 watts is real power being consumed while the reactive power in the lines being recirculated is 5 watts.

                          So out of the 100 watts read on the meters using volts and amps only 5 watts are not wasted.

                          In my transformer the phase angle is 80 degrees or better so say 80 degrees to keep everybody happy. COS 80 degrees = .1736 or I round it out to the next highest .175 = COS 80 degrees.

                          So now the same power line brings the same 100 watts X .175 = 17.5 watts real and reactive =82.5watts.

                          You must find the phase angle of the transformer on the scope and get the COS of the phase angle to find the real power and reactive power.

                          Now you know all there is to know about what the power companies do to run their math figures. Power correction is another chapter.

                          Do you understand now, how to do the math?

                          Maybe you don't have a scope?

                          Mike
                          Last edited by BroMikey; 11-24-2014, 07:16 AM.

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                          • #43
                            I'm after taking the time to listen to the past 6-7 episodes of Bill Alek's (and co-host, Aurora Light!) weekly radio show in the hope of added insight into this. It's generally 2 hours of fairly flaky material, but normally the first half to one hour is taken up with news on Auroratek's progress. What follows are a few of the things of have gleaned from listening to these shows.

                            Despite the "*** NEWS FLASH ***" of the Haiti order for 250 chargers (worth $54,000 allegedly) taking pride-of-place on their website, there has not been a single mention of this in any of the programs that I have listened to. This strikes me as decidedly odd.

                            Auroratek do not seem even close to a manufacturing footing yet. Bill is still trying to improve the transformer efficiency. I held off posting this as last week Bill said he had exciting news to announce regarding the work he has been doing on the transformer. This week there was nothing but another bland note about finalising work on it.

                            It is clear that 'Aurora Light', Bill's side-kick/partner is as keen to see this thing succeed as we are, and frustrated at the lack of progress being made. Several times during the radio shows this frustration has made brief appearances. More than once she has bemoaned the fact that their phone is ringing off the hook, from people eager to purchase kit - but they have nothing to sell!

                            Worryingly, there have been many references to selling shares in Auroratek. No hard-selling tactics, just letting us know that there are only about 16,000 shares (of 250,000 if memory serves) remaining, and all for the bargain price of $1 a share - and once they're gone, they're gone! I appreciate the need for investment capital, but it's hard to see how they wouldn't have money thrown at them by investors once they had seen a single demonstration of a charger charging a depleted battery in a few hours.

                            Bill's bleating about Cooper-pairs is maddening! His constant efforts to dress this up (assuming it works!) in scientifically acceptable garb is self-defeating. Who cares, as long as it works! Not Aurora Light, that for certain, who seemed bored to tears whenever Bill starts down the Cooper-pair path once again.

                            All in all, I'm becoming increasingly doubtful about Auroratek. I'd love to eat crow on this one but I strongly suspect that come January - March, we will be informed of yet another delay in the offing - something incidentally, there was no mention at all made of on their weekly radio program!

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                            • #44
                              Discovery

                              Hey Sprocket

                              Let me give you a clue, to your line of questioning as to it's flaw.Do you remember John Bedini? Maybe you didn't build an SSG? Well thats not the point is it? The point is Bill is not convincing to you, right?

                              You are not convinced, right? Now let me ask you this. How many other inventions and subjects have you handled this same way? Have you ever felt this way before with all other experimenters?

                              Is this normal for sprocket? It's going to work, you will see.

                              Now let's go beyond each of our normal tendencies. Remember that Bill Alek was greatly influenced by Thane Heins work so lets look at whats going on in the real world with this root technology.

                              Remember John Bedini? I asked you that already didn't I?

                              Remember how John was to have some chargers come available and everyone was so excited yet some were not convinced? Remember?

                              Maybe you weren't here at that time. Or maybe you were but hate to admit that you were doing the same thing as you are doing now with Bill's work.

                              Did you believe John Bedini? How about THANE?

                              Okay like I said sprocket let's go beyond our individual tendencies that often can prove to be weaknesses. My tendencies is to believe every word I am told and this has been shown to be incorrect

                              Yet on the other side of reason listen up.

                              Thane has a root technology that he is building on, it started with this huge transformer that cost some incredible price to pass a watt into. Not very impressive, huh?

                              His demo shows a tiny bit of power at the end extra. Bill showed a demo of it also only this time at frequencies higher than 60hz, Bill shows 3200hz.

                              Next Thanes goes off into the ReGenX. Like John Bedini had the SSSG and the SSG and the tube oscillator, Teslas chargers, Tesla switch, all build on the single root technology.

                              Each year John B adds something to improve it. 30 years has past. Were you there?

                              Okay Thane went up in frequency using rotating mass but still uses this Cooper Pairing phenomena in all of us projects. The ReGenX is a Bi-Toroidal winding in his MotorGen.

                              I will continue in a moment. Many people such as myself enjoy following new technologically break-through's and are willing to replicate the work while others don't care about the adventure of it's evolution.

                              What is extraordinary as Bill A. had initially said is that the BiTT/SFT runs a 80-85 degree phase angle. Do you understand that? Do you understand that Tesla technology centers around recirculating energy for it's re-use?

                              Don't we all know that this quest in developing new technology using Tesla's recycling method's is found in reactive power?

                              This means great things to an Engineer. Bill Alek can do miracles with circuits like embedded computerized digital controls and I am sure is working frantically to get the highest accuracy on the input wave with the least amount of waste. Getting over 100 percent is not the whole story.

                              There is a 4 part/pack set of charging modules in a scooter each 250 watts each and each scooter has four 12vdc batteries. So as a wild guess I would say that Bill's work is cut out for him. He needs to charge a 48vdc pack of batteries so he has four 12v modules in series. Each 250 watt module could be sold as a battery charger to replace a solar panel.

                              All I am saying is that is a lot of work. Many operations with testing so returned do not plug up his mailbox. Bill A. is not going to release a product that is untested. People did the same thing with John B. thinking he would never get one out.

                              The system must be protected from those who would steal his circuits and designs by back engineering a single module.

                              Then a scooter must be purchased from a supplier so it can be modified to except the electronics.

                              All of this for a single scooter at dirt dog prices. WOW! that is all I can say.


                              SO there is more involved here than 1 watt in 2 watts out. The tronixs might burn up a 1/4 watt.

                              Mike





                              Originally posted by sprocket View Post
                              I'm after taking the time to listen to the past 6-7 episodes of Bill Alek's (and co-host, Aurora Light!) weekly radio show in the hope of added insight into this. It's generally 2 hours of fairly flaky material, but normally the first half to one hour is taken up with news on Auroratek's progress. What follows are a few of the things of have gleaned from listening to these shows.

                              Despite the "*** NEWS FLASH ***" of the Haiti order for 250 chargers (worth $54,000 allegedly) taking pride-of-place on their website, there has not been a single mention of this in any of the programs that I have listened to. This strikes me as decidedly odd.

                              Auroratek do not seem even close to a manufacturing footing yet. Bill is still trying to improve the transformer efficiency. I held off posting this as last week Bill said he had exciting news to announce regarding the work he has been doing on the transformer. This week there was nothing but another bland note about finalising work on it.

                              It is clear that 'Aurora Light', Bill's side-kick/partner is as keen to see this thing succeed as we are, and frustrated at the lack of progress being made. Several times during the radio shows this frustration has made brief appearances. More than once she has bemoaned the fact that their phone is ringing off the hook, from people eager to purchase kit - but they have nothing to sell!

                              Worryingly, there have been many references to selling shares in Auroratek. No hard-selling tactics, just letting us know that there are only about 16,000 shares (of 250,000 if memory serves) remaining, and all for the bargain price of $1 a share - and once they're gone, they're gone! I appreciate the need for investment capital, but it's hard to see how they wouldn't have money thrown at them by investors once they had seen a single demonstration of a charger charging a depleted battery in a few hours.

                              Bill's bleating about Cooper-pairs is maddening! His constant efforts to dress this up (assuming it works!) in scientifically acceptable garb is self-defeating. Who cares, as long as it works! Not Aurora Light, that for certain, who seemed bored to tears whenever Bill starts down the Cooper-pair path once again.

                              All in all, I'm becoming increasingly doubtful about Auroratek. I'd love to eat crow on this one but I strongly suspect that come January - March, we will be informed of yet another delay in the offing - something incidentally, there was no mention at all made of on their weekly radio program!
                              Last edited by BroMikey; 11-24-2014, 07:53 PM.

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                              • #45
                                Mike, you touch on a LOT in that post, so I will address what I consider relevant.

                                First, I'm not suggesting that come January if there is no products available from Auroratek, that Bill Alek has failed in his quest. I have been following Bill for years and his sincerity seems beyond doubt. What I am suggesting is that based on what he himself says he is currently working on, that it is wildly optimistic to believe that there will be product for sale from Auroratek anytime soon!

                                Many people who attended Bill's demos at the last show went away unimpressed. Indeed, the video that Russ Greiss shot of the measurements done then is not very convincing. Correct me if I'm wrong but there has not been a single public demonstration yet of one of these chargers in operation - Auroratek's own specs require that their self-powered charger be able to provide 12V @ 20amps, or 250W. I don't claim for a minute to understand how he plans to achieve this - particularly with a transformer whose claimed efficiency (COP) is presently 'only' 1.19 or 1.29. I promise you one thing, if these chargers do pan out, I will be buying one!

                                I think you are reading too much into this reactive power thing. You do realise the power companies charge commercial companies for reactive power used? In fact, Thane Heinz is asked in one of his videos, "what would the power companies do if every house had one of your gizmos (paraphrasing obviously), and he responds "the power companies have that covered.", implying that they'll just start charging domestic customers for reactive power used. Of course Bill is claiming to have a charger that will generate 250W over & above what it is using to power itself, and powering itself to boot, all from a transformer with an efficiency of say 1.29. Hardly credible, but if it's true, like I said already, I want one.

                                Like you, I like to hope that 'start-ups' like this end up delivering on their promises, but I also temper my optimism with the evidence provided. So far, evidence has been pretty thin on the ground regarding Auroratek.

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