Topic: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )

[gotoluc]

I've come up with some interesting ideas on increasing output of this small 6 pole version. My video skills are poor at best and my equipment is even worse but I'll put something together on this small one to give everyone a good idea of what I'm seeing and why it's inspired me to follow this path...

Thanks for sharing your results dragon
Looking forward to any kind of video. For me visuals are one of my best and quickest learning tools.

BTW, I was wondering if you know why my double C core double coil version is no showing any effect now that I've fixed the coil short issue?

Thanks

Luc

[dragon]

Luc, that is curious - have you tried shorting the coil on the core? Try to simulate what you had before and work it back from there maybe...

I don't know ... I could only offer a guess at best - possibly a capacitive coupling between the core and power coil ???

[jimboot]

Looking forward to seeing your vid dragon. The current you guys are generating is crazy compared to mine so I've moved to another iteration. Essentially it's still the gary effect but taking what I've learned from the James German and jack Holden brand devices.

Watching the output climb is like watching a cap charge. The faster you go the quicker the voltage rises until it reaches a limit. Then it doesn't matter how many rpms you have.

I have some work to do on it today and will post a vid tonight. It was 41 deg Celsius a week ago but a far more pleasant 21 today so not facing dragons issues with the weather at least

[dragon]

Really bad job as usual... the first one shows it appart and assembled...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYLF...ature=youtu.be

The second one shows torque loaded and unloaded, amperage and powering a small bulb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3LB...ature=youtu.be

While it's on the meter you can see there is a point where it will no longer increase in amperage... this is the point where the steel rod I used as the directors becomes saturated. Notice the amps build fast at low speeds.

It maintains 220 grams of force once it's rotating unloaded and jumps to 230 loaded - the lever length ( or radius ) is 2.3 inches.

[gotoluc]

Thanks for making the video demos dragon
The videos look just fine and helps me to see what you're doing

Questions:
are the 6 sections the magnets are on solid steel?
the sections look isolated (air gap) from each other?
are the magnets N-S x 6?
the directors look to be as wide as a single pole magnet?
how are the 6 coils connected, parallel or all series?
did you rewind the coils yourself? and if you did why?
what kind of a motor is the stator from?
what is the voltage and watt rating of the bulb?

It would of been nice "for the skeptics" to see the scale reading with drill full out with the bulb connected. If you wouldn't mind doing a video with scale and drill full out on no load and same with bulb I think that would help to get more to replicate.

Your third build is a work of Art!... can't wait to see the results

Thanks for your time and help

Luc

[jimboot]

That's some beautiful work. Luc took all my questions bar 1. What is the rotor from and what sort of iron are you using in it.
Also I couldn't make out the amp reading.

If you have a desk lamp handy it would make a massive difference when you film. I've watched them both several times great stuff and thanks

[dragon]

Thanks for making the video demos dragon
The videos look just fine and helps me to see what you're doing

Questions:
are the 6 sections the magnets are on solid steel?
the sections look isolated (air gap) from each other?
are the magnets N-S x 6?
the directors look to be as wide as a single pole magnet?
how are the 6 coils connected, parallel or all series?
did you rewind the coils yourself? and if you did why?
what kind of a motor is the stator from?
what is the voltage and watt rating of the bulb?

It would of been nice "for the skeptics" to see the scale reading with drill full out with the bulb connected. If you wouldn't mind doing a video with scale and drill full out on no load and same with bulb I think that would help to get more to replicate.

Your third build is a work of Art!... can't wait to see the results

Thanks for your time and help

Luc

Thanks Luc,

I've added a drawing that should answer most of your questions - I'm more of a visual, touchy, feely learner as well.

It's wound as a normal single phase motor/generator - series windings - I rewound this one because the original coils had some bad wires. The original windings are also wound with some pretty fine wire. These are typical 3 speed box fan motors.

The bulb is 12 volt and requires 1/3 amp to run so nothing special - I simply used it as a visual aid to show a real output.

Some of my early tests with it was in the drill press with the spring scale mounted solid, should have shot a video then. When the weather is warmer I may do another.

As for the skeptics... I am probably one of the biggest skeptics which is why I build and confirm. Some might use it as an excuse not to build, unfortunately, there isn't much learned from that - I'm doing this for my own knowledge no matter how it turns out - my only agenda is the truth. It doesn't get any simpler. Besides, no mater how it turns out - you always learn something -

[dragon]

That's some beautiful work. Luc took all my questions bar 1. What is the rotor from and what sort of iron are you using in it.
Also I couldn't make out the amp reading.

If you have a desk lamp handy it would make a massive difference when you film. I've watched them both several times great stuff and thanks

jimboot - the rotor... you'll probably laugh... I found a peanut butter jar that fit snugly inside the stator and filled it with liquid plastic. The rest was shaping it into what I wanted. The directors were cut from a standard steel bar cut to size and glued in place...

Maximum amperage is 0.82 - as soon as it starts rotating it produces good amperage and climbs quickly until the directors are saturated - I've thought it might not be a saturation problem, it's possible that's all it can do with that configuration... I plan to find out...

[gotoluc]

Thanks dragon for answering most of all the questions.

There's only 2 that were not answered. See this pic



Looks like it could be the rotor of this fan motor you cut down? and may be made of steel lamination?

The reason I ask is your magnets are mounted on it and when I made the fibeglass rotor for Thane and it didn't work, he told me by having steel behind the magnets it focuses the flux forward. So I was wondering why you did this?

The other thing I didn't ask you is, if this device works like the ReGen-X effect, then shorting the coil would releases the rotor drag just like if the coil was open. We can see this effect in your video test. However, the light bulb load would represent more drag to the rotor depending on the resistance. So basically my tests and observations of ReGen-X is, the higher the resistance the more drag on the rotor and the smaller the resistance the less drag on the rotor.

Is this what you have found with your scale when hooked up to your drill press?

Please understand, I'm not trying to discredit this effect but rather trying to better understand it so we can improve it.

By sharing our results and ideas, this is how I see we can further develop it.

Thanks for sharing

Luc

[dragon]

Sorry about that... that center was made from a piece of 2" durabar iron.

Oh... It just occurred to me your talking about the dark lines on the steel??? That is simply a marker line to help me keep the magnets within a certain boundary - just a magic marker no gap....

The only force against input is that needed to overcome cogging and magnetic drag. Shorting the coils, driving a load or open circuit it remains pretty much stable with the exception of the 10gram increase when loaded or shorted. I believe this is a residual Lenz force against the moving magnetized director.

I considered making a quick video on the press but ended up moving snow today - frozen - so maybe I can set something up later tonight or tomorrow.

I cleaned up another 6 pole stator this afternoon and plan to start winding some coils on it to increase output...

[T-1000]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYLF...ature=youtu.be

The second one shows torque loaded and unloaded, amperage and powering a small bulb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3LB...ature=youtu.be

Hi dragon,

In your video - do you have magnets in middle, the iron buttons in rotor and coils outside?

Like in Flux Gate Interrupter, BEMF Redirector on which we are working on...

Cheers!

[gotoluc]

The only force against input is that needed to overcome cogging and magnetic drag. Shorting the coils, driving a load or open circuit it remains pretty much stable with the exception of the 10gram increase when loaded or shorted. I believe this is a residual Lenz force against the moving magnetized director.

Well, if this is the case, then I may be wrong on this is a variation of ReGen-X.

Since I was getting ReGen-X effects with my first build (double I with C core rotor) I assumed it was the same for you.

This is very interesting

Looking forward to more of your tests.

Thanks for sharing

Luc

[dragon]

Ok, I see what your saying Luc... when it's shorted your saying it relieves pressure on the rotor ( allowing it to speed up per say )... No I don't see a change. But... when you add the resistive load it does bump the scale.

I just finished making up a quick video

.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1fY...ature=youtu.be

Is this what your talking about?

[dragon]

Hi dragon,

In your video - do you have magnets in middle, the iron buttons in rotor and coils outside?

Like in Flux Gate Interrupter, BEMF Redirector on which we are working on...

Cheers!

Excellent T1000 ! Do you have one built? Didn't know that forum existed I'll have to brows through it.

[gotoluc]

Hi Dragon

I made a demo video to demonstrate the stable voltage of a ReGen-X coil under load.

Please have a look and tell me if this is similar to when you put your Ramadan test device under load.

Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LozbviezKs

Thanks

Luc