The Resonance Energy Device Explained

[med.3012]

Hello Jeremy,

i really didn't catch your previous post ! until now i have some trouble exacting the power from the E-TBC , i got the standing waves from L2 coil using neon light bulb when i changed the parallel capacitor with the E-TBC from 70 NF into smaller value 10 NF ( they are rated for 15 KV ), adjusting the gap distance with less than 2mm gave the bright neon bulb i was looking for.


trying to charge 720 UF /450 volts capacitor with no success...

one critical condition we have to achieve is the third oscillation in the following photo .



we have to have LC oscillation with amplification.... just a though !

[lotec]

Hi Med

if you want to work with Colpitts design in high power, it's better to use Power MOSFET, i think it's difficult to find a high power transistor with higher speed into 20 MHZ ranges.

I agree.

Interesting idea for the radio,

Im liking the culpitts idea more and more perhaps the inductor for the oscilator can be wound on one of these,
SBK-71K | rf-microwave.com

Regards lotec

[med.3012]

Hi Med



I agree.

Interesting idea for the radio,

Im liking the culpitts idea more and more perhaps the inductor for the oscilator can be wound on one of these,
SBK-71K | rf-microwave.com

Regards lotec

Hi Lotec ,

you can use directly the E-TBC as oscillation tank circuit , for sure you can try the variable inductor you mentioned.




if the circuit worked with you tell us especially if you are able to measure the inductance and capacitance of the E-TBC it's important to know if double frequency happen with you too.

Thanks .

[Guruji]

Very interesting med. Did you try it yourself in circuit?

[med.3012]

Very interesting med. Did you try it yourself in circuit?

HI,

Thanks for your post , i did some experiment show that the E-TBC is energy amplifying device, but i am facing problems extracting the energy from this device the reason is the lack of experience in radio frequency and radiant energy fields both of them are needed, but i think radio frequency is the most important here.

this device unlike ordinary parallel LC show double frequency behavior ( i hope to receive more statement about that ).

i am working on improving standing waves detection on this device , maybe changing the geometry of the E-TBC will help ( this involve another reverse engineering test ),

honestly i am not able to know what is the problem....the capacitor banks i am using ( now i use 1600 UF / 400 v capacitors ) give a great amperage but it need more than 3 minutes to be charged....., another problem it's cold electricity, the mystery in cold electricity is you can't charge serial capacitors with it !!

meaning i can't increase the voltage i am working with ... i have to have higher voltage capacitors and they are rare !!

Regards

[med.3012]

The problems expected using indirect resonance method

The problems expected using indirect resonance method:

one of the biggest problem in extracting the power from the E-TBC is the harmonic oscillations generated due to the fact the E-TBC is a special parallel LC oscillator where the capacitor inside the device is a special capacitor where it's formed in electrons spin mechanism behavior , x point is the location where electron spin take action, here it's the lowest energy point and it's related to spark gap resistance, when the gap resistance increase the capacitor increase.... ( i am confused here ) and this result in changing the oscillation frequencies giving a large bandwidth frequencies , short waves Radio show a large frequency covered when the E-TBC oscillate.

the solution is to move into direct resonance method where we have to match the frequency of HV module with our resonating system .... it's important to add another capacitor to regulate the oscillation of the E-TBC .

[med.3012]

Discussion the problem:

the following photo show the experiment i did, to increase the sensibility of neon light bulb it's better to use the earth grounding instead of using our hands,
to the right the neon has a medium shining , in the center tap position the neon has a little shining ,this mean the positions of node ( 0V) and anti-node ( V ) are still not positioned correctly, the interference between the main resonance frequency and harmonic frequencies absorb most of pick resonance power, the presence of relative standing waves positions is possible only when decreasing the gap distance of spark-gap, changing the parallel capacitor from 70NF into 10NF help too because of speeding the spark speed ( this help in how much speed the neon bulb is brightening ).

the important phenomena is the relation between neon bulb brightening and decreasing the spark gap distance, the position of these relative standing waves ( they are relative because we have to have a pure node position where the voltage is zero in the center tap, if this condition is achieved charging the capacitor banks will be easy because we have a reference voltage now = 0V )






The E-TBC need a regulation, this device need a silent spark gap... we have to provide a minimum spark-gap resistance , so the combination C + E-TBC must have the maximum impedance toward HV module oscillation frequency, ( practically the best possible.... the E-TBC is able to change its internal geometry when oscillate from parallel LC into serial LC providing a maximum current....).

the next photo show the current situation and the desired situation which can be obtained with adequate HV module capable of oscillating around 150 KHZ.

[John.K1]

Hi Guys. I found it interesting to mes with it a bit. I have made a new Coil-Capacitor today. Tomorrow I'll put some coil over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvfdkUdGoJY

John

[med.3012]

Very nice video :-) , but extracting the power from this device need tuning!

[med.3012]

i don't like to disturb your work , but other suggestion will be provided very soon, for example the relation between the length and the width of the E-TBC has an optimum value ... soon i will use 1/5 as Don Smith said, for example reduce the width to 1cm will give around 4 or 5 turn ( the frequency will be high around 20MHZ ) this in fact will increase the magnetic energy because L will take a high value.

using ZVS driver will increase the driver power to benifit from silent spark-gap... more silent sparking mean a narrow harmonic bandwidth.

GOOD LUCK

[John.K1]

Ok, my device broadband around 40 KHz. The coil L2- I will make it 1/4 length of that frequency. The only problem I see is the spark is not very stable on its intensity. I think some improvement needs to be done. Maybe discharge tube might be better? Also, do not forget that the respond of the device might be not linear with the voltage IN. You might find right voltage for best output. My flyback is drived by ZVS, I can't imagine how to make scilent spark. They so intens and load. Even if the gap is very small. BTW- the sound is the energy too. Excite the electrons in the wire and let the sound to kick them.

This device reminds me "harisingh's" E-stress power generator (Amplifier), the device I made an year ago. It didn't work for me that time.

e-Stress Power Generating System

John

[med.3012]

just quick response, the wave length for 40 khz will be 7500 m ! the quarter length will be 7500/4 = 1875 m still big length!

using 20 mhz will be a good choice and a silent spark gap can be obtained easily using ZVS driver because the capacitor of the E-TBC will be small around 200 pf .

the noisy spark gap mean the power is lost ... silent mean you have a pick resoance that work for you and the power is concentrated

[genessc]

Whats the target length for 20mhz then?

I'd note using such a small capacity will make the current leader length be very very small... on my 50kvdc output ion chair my end capacity is 800pF and that produces a nice snappy arc. Frequency changes with size of spark gap distance, increasing in frequency as the gap closes and reducing in frequency as the gap opens.

As regards the arc being noisy or quiet, thats usually dependent on the capacity setup at the spark gap. (also the tighter/smaller the gap the less noise is heard, regardless how much "currents" being pumped into it, what changes is the Discharge peak voltage being reached before it fires again across the arc. Thus for example using the context of my ion chair, if the gap is set to about a half an inch or less, the discharges are noted to be Measured at about 2-5kvdc consistently and the arc is apparently constant to the eye... but moving that gap to about 3 inches forces the charge in the 800pf to reach at least 30kvdc before it arcs over... and as my measuring device is only good for 0-30kvdc, the meters off the far right and comes back "down" to 30kvdc for the discharge event, and then goes back offscale till it fires again... )

I would lastly note you can localize a much better discharge in a spark gap by adding some capacity from 50-500pF'ish right on either side of the gap, as this will act to provide additional current in the arc discharge localized at the gap. (just try adding a capacity on the gap versus no capacity on the gap and it should be relatively apparent the effect of increased discharge in the gap... its like its providing the missing Current aspect at the place where its needed... which is what lets that arc usually "inflate" to be sort of a bubble between the spark gap electrodes. I saw the same thing manually inflating arcs with my trigatron several years back... arc would get established with a cars autocoil bridging the bigger part of the gap, and once established the large uF cap could then bridge the shorter part of the gap and conduct over the established path. The effect of that was this piddly violet spark plug type arc being inflated to a spheroid bubble of blue-white light... )

Just some things I've observed that might be of use to you guys. If not, no worries.

Cheers,
Gene

just quick response, the wave length for 40 khz will be 7500 m ! the quarter length will be 7500/4 = 1875 m still big length!

using 20 mhz will be a good choice and a silent spark gap can be obtained easily using ZVS driver because the capacitor of the E-TBC will be small around 200 pf .

the noisy spark gap mean the power is lost ... silent mean you have a pick resoance that work for you and the power is concentrated

[John.K1]

So you want to say I didn't need to make that big coil today? I have on my desk 4-5 turns , 5-6 cm height E-TBC from my previous experiment I didn't check what was the broadband frequency on that one. But it looks to me quite small to put any coil on it (2* 1/4).

Actually I have one more question- I have made a kacher by using one transistor and two coils (one going to collector and the other is feedback to base) On the collector I can see ns HV peaks. With the ground used ,it charge my caps very quickly to around 200V. The point is ,there is almost no current consumption -my poversupply shows 0.00A and the cap charged to 200V in around 1.5s. Just wondering if I will make the kacher peaks much higher, with the amp-less consumption ,that would be great. The E-TBC will give it the amps and happy days

[BroMikey]

Very nice video :-) , but extracting the power from this device need tuning!

Nice posting Med and the others who enjoy your work. There are those of us who believe it works as well as many other devices that work off these principles.

It is easy to weed out the ones who are here to throw water on your fire. Not me, I know it works and I want to jump in and encourage you guys.

Don said tuning yes "For resonant magnetic flux" something that the amp burning kronies won't perceive. The indoctrinated university grad's who think only the way they were programmed.

This is why we have no practical OU to date.

But you guys might just break the mold.

Mikey