The Resonance Energy Device Explained

[John.K1]

Good morning guys,

I have played with a spark gap a bit. I have a 20W bulb in series with SG. I can get a very quiet spark as you said Med, but, it behaves almost like a short cut. It doesn't broadcast any RF, and the bulb doesn't lit. Also it seems to be not absolutely true "smaller gap = higher frequency" I could see how my frequency grows with bigger gap up to some point. I believe with small gap there might be high pressure of ionized air which blows the spark off or maybe partially shorts the circuit - like a leak-

Just F.Y.I some scope screenshots -the probe right next to the ETBC



Edit1: I have tried the small version of the ETBC - around 4-5 turns @ diameter 2cm ,5cm height. I do not see much difference in the frequency . It still shows around 50 KHz. To be honnest I do not think you can get much higher f from the spark plug. Yes, there are some harmonics at higher f too, but the primary frequency determined by SG is only at the range of KHz. I think. Also , when I hoover with small coil and the diode around the ETBC ,the diode lit only in the middle of the ETBC. This makes me think- shouldn't be the L2 coil in the middle of the ETBC? And maybe stack of Tesla's pancake coils?

[med.3012]

Whats the target length for 20mhz then?

I'd note using such a small capacity will make the current leader length be very very small... on my 50kvdc output ion chair my end capacity is 800pF and that produces a nice snappy arc. Frequency changes with size of spark gap distance, increasing in frequency as the gap closes and reducing in frequency as the gap opens.

As regards the arc being noisy or quiet, thats usually dependent on the capacity setup at the spark gap. (also the tighter/smaller the gap the less noise is heard, regardless how much "currents" being pumped into it, what changes is the Discharge peak voltage being reached before it fires again across the arc. Thus for example using the context of my ion chair, if the gap is set to about a half an inch or less, the discharges are noted to be Measured at about 2-5kvdc consistently and the arc is apparently constant to the eye... but moving that gap to about 3 inches forces the charge in the 800pf to reach at least 30kvdc before it arcs over... and as my measuring device is only good for 0-30kvdc, the meters off the far right and comes back "down" to 30kvdc for the discharge event, and then goes back offscale till it fires again... )

I would lastly note you can localize a much better discharge in a spark gap by adding some capacity from 50-500pF'ish right on either side of the gap, as this will act to provide additional current in the arc discharge localized at the gap. (just try adding a capacity on the gap versus no capacity on the gap and it should be relatively apparent the effect of increased discharge in the gap... its like its providing the missing Current aspect at the place where its needed... which is what lets that arc usually "inflate" to be sort of a bubble between the spark gap electrodes. I saw the same thing manually inflating arcs with my trigatron several years back... arc would get established with a cars autocoil bridging the bigger part of the gap, and once established the large uF cap could then bridge the shorter part of the gap and conduct over the established path. The effect of that was this piddly violet spark plug type arc being inflated to a spheroid bubble of blue-white light... )

Just some things I've observed that might be of use to you guys. If not, no worries.

Cheers,
Gene

Nice to hear from you, you can use this website to calculate the wave length directly :

Wavelength Frequency Calculator

for 20MHZ it will be 15 m , the quarter length will be 15/4 = 3.75 m, the electrons are slower in conductors so the formation of of quarter length will be small than 3.75m but in practice i have to take 3.75m and look for the brighter point.

The E-TBC is energy replicator... if the current is very small because the capacitor is around 200pf for example the frequency goes into MHZ range so you are able to fight it , remember the energy equation

C V ( square) F ( square)

the frequency and voltage are the most important players !

thanks for your suggestions about the quality of spark gap arcing, i will try the best

[med.3012]

Good morning guys,

I have played with a spark gap a bit. I have a 20W bulb in series with SG. I can get a very quiet spark as you said Med, but, it behaves almost like a short cut. It doesn't broadcast any RF, and the bulb doesn't lit. Also it seems to be not absolutely true "smaller gap = higher frequency" I could see how my frequency grows with bigger gap up to some point. I believe with small gap there might be high pressure of ionized air which blows the spark off or maybe partially shorts the circuit - like a leak-

Just F.Y.I some scope screenshots -the probe right next to the ETBC



Edit1: I have tried the small version of the ETBC - around 4-5 turns @ diameter 2cm ,5cm height. I do not see much difference in the frequency . It still shows around 50 KHz. To be honnest I do not think you can get much higher f from the spark plug. Yes, there are some harmonics at higher f too, but the primary frequency determined by SG is only at the range of KHz. I think. Also , when I hoover with small coil and the diode around the ETBC ,the diode lit only in the middle of the ETBC. This makes me think- shouldn't be the L2 coil in the middle of the ETBC? And maybe stack of Tesla's pancake coils?

Hi,


the SG when fire will short circuit your HV power source and let the E-TBC resonate naturally.... the problem is here ... we have to provide a mechanism for the E-TBC to be charged even when the SG in firing condition ....one solution is impedance matching, another solution is using toroidal inductors like the following image plus a relatively HV diode around 10kv, this arrangement will push the back EMF to feed the E-TBC when the SG short circuit your hv source so the current will have a good path through it.

the light bulb in serial with your SG isn't suitable for the E-TBC to oscillate as expected because you are killing your one dimensional capacitor ( this is a very special zone in this design because it involve electron spin mechanism ... unlike normal capacitor when we have to provide max isolation here we have to provide max conducting condition ),



i will post more

[med.3012]

@ John.K1

you are right smaller gap = higher frequency isn't true , i didn't say this ; what i am focusing on is the quality of oscillation for the E-TBC , smaller gap = higher quality is true....

the best way to know the resonance frequency for the E-TBC was discussed previously using a very simple Colpitts oscillator schematic, the E-TBC show an extra stability compared to normal LC circuit , this is normal due to the extra energy this device is able to extract from ambient background energy ( or open energy )

50 KHZ frequency measured mean the wide variety of harmonic frequencies , you can hear it using Short waves radio... in this situation the power is distributed in a long frequencies , the obtained power from the E-TBC is an amplified electromagnetic waves , the replications point is the pick resonance frequency ( to be more clear ) .. if we success in catching this point or at least work around it we will achieve energy replication provided by a perfect oscillating E-TBC .

The E-TBC is able to amplify the electric energy in reactive, standing waves is the language to understand this device because the two coils L1 and L2 must talk to each other , L2 is composed of two coil each have a quarter waves length, two coils are important to provide electrons superposition so we can combine voltage and current together through spin on/off mechanism when the electromagnetic flux collapse ...

the position of E-TBC through L2 can be adjusted, if correct frequency is used with correspondent wire length you can see the brightness point in the edges of L2 coil as shown before .

you can still use a large number L2 coil as i did before and enjoy the powerful sparking from L2 coil , you will believe you are discharging though capacitor !!!

[med.3012]

Nice posting Med and the others who enjoy your work. There are those of us who believe it works as well as many other devices that work off these principles.

It is easy to weed out the ones who are here to throw water on your fire. Not me, I know it works and I want to jump in and encourage you guys.

Don said tuning yes "For resonant magnetic flux" something that the amp burning kronies won't perceive. The indoctrinated university grad's who think only the way they were programmed.

This is why we have no practical OU to date.

But you guys might just break the mold.

Mikey

Hi Mikey : ) happy to see you nice words


in my past years in the university and in one exam i used empty space dielectric coefficient ( or Vacuum permittivity ) it equal one , the professor refused to give the points to me because i didn't used his formulas even though both work fine since the number one will not affect the results !!

[John.K1]

you can still use a large number L2 coil as i did before and enjoy the powerful sparking from L2 coil , you will believe you are discharging though capacitor !!!

Just in short, I did that today morning. I have used the backing coil of large diameter from different experiment and it killed my voltmeter ( does anybody know how to fix it , I have three like that )

As you said, it did nice long sparks (4cm) ,they are long but very very slim. Also the radius of radiation was large. The neon bulb on my desk started to glow in the distance 0.4-0.5m. Can imagine how much you can harvest when in resonance. Unfortunately with that setup I couldn't get my incandescent bulbs to lit.

[med.3012]

Just in short, I did that today morning. I have used the backing coil of large diameter from different experiment and it killed my voltmeter ( does anybody know how to fix it , I have three like that )

As you said, it did nice long sparks (4cm) ,they are long but very very slim. Also the radius of radiation was large. The neon bulb on my desk started to glow in the distance 0.4-0.5m. Can imagine how much you can harvest when in resonance. Unfortunately with that setup I couldn't get my incandescent bulbs to lit.

you are lucky because it's your voltmeter , in my case i received an electric shock from 200 turn L2 coil.... as you know when the voltage is high the current is low but in this coil it wasn't true ... this is why it's very dangerous when working with high number coils

Don Smith used shielding for his device ... in my case cathode TV was perturbed across 10 m !!

in a working prototype shielding is a must ! especially in countries where RF interference is prohibited.

without correct tuning the extracted power can't be proportional to time , as discussed the replication point have to be reached !

[BroMikey]

Hey Med

Those guys treat students like they are potty training a small puppy. Here is the information Vacuum permittivity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Professor is living in his own little world. The stone ages.

Mikey

Hi Mikey : ) happy to see you nice words


in my past years in the university and in one exam i used empty space dielectric coefficient ( or Vacuum permittivity ) it equal one , the professor refused to give the points to me because i didn't used his formulas even though both work fine since the number one will not affect the results !!

[med.3012]

Hey Med

Those guys treat students like they are potty training a small puppy. Here is the information Vacuum permittivity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Professor is living in his own little world. The stone ages.

Mikey

I agree with you .

[John.K1]

Hi,


the SG when fire will short circuit your HV power source and let the E-TBC resonate naturally.... the problem is here ... we have to provide a mechanism for the E-TBC to be charged even when the SG in firing condition ....one solution is impedance matching, another solution is using toroidal inductors like the following image plus a relatively HV diode around 10kv,

Hi Med, guys,

I have done something like on the picture bellow. Generraly I do not see much difference with or without the toroid and HV diodes. maybe the consumption dropped by around 0.6 A

Sure the coil I use is from other project and is not tuned anyway to the cap-coil. To be honest I am not sure if I know how to tune it. The spark on the coil are allover the place. Across the winding too. Very slim and long sparks, which doesn't burn paper. Only disappointment is It doesn't lit my 20W micro-oven bulb. Even if I use the ground. It still miss the amps I guess I have on my desk Ruslans/Akula device. Shame that cap doesn't fit inside , that would be some sparks around 1000 turns there

[med.3012]

The energy factors and Risk factors from the E-TBC

I think it's important to talk about the risk factors inside an oscillating E-TBC before extracting the power from it and separate this section from the energy factors that most of us are looking for.

According to the energy equation that allow us to predict the amount of available energy thought an oscillating E-TBC we could see the impact of static capacitive side :

C V (square) F(square)


the electric side in this equation is the source of danger so the above equation can be clarified as follow


C V x V F(square)


the higher the static capacitor bring a higher current proportional to the primary voltage, another hidden factor is the secondary voltage across L2 coil, together the risk factor is very high!

the following photo show the arcing from L2 coil, without photographing it's impossible to see the different sparks due to the high frequency they are.





the next one show how cold electricity jump from insulated wire to my finger:





the important energetic factor is the frequency itself where we achieve energy replication but we have to be careful with collecting system !

[med.3012]

Hi Med, guys,

I have done something like on the picture bellow. Generraly I do not see much difference with or without the toroid and HV diodes. maybe the consumption dropped by around 0.6 A

Sure the coil I use is from other project and is not tuned anyway to the cap-coil. To be honest I am not sure if I know how to tune it. The spark on the coil are allover the place. Across the winding too. Very slim and long sparks, which doesn't burn paper. Only disappointment is It doesn't lit my 20W micro-oven bulb. Even if I use the ground. It still miss the amps I guess I have on my desk Ruslans/Akula device. Shame that cap doesn't fit inside , that would be some sparks around 1000 turns there

Hi!

nice to see your post!

Yes it's not possible to light a small bulb directly from L2 coil! Don Smith expressed this reality in his seminars... we need a temporal storage to be able to use the huge amount of available power , we could use batteries or capacitors but capacitor are the best choice.

the amperage can only harvested using a proper tuning when you are able to store the replicated power through your capacitors banks....

the first step is determining your E-TBC resonance frequency , you can use frequency generator and oscilloscope or make your E-TBC oscillate inside Colpitts circuit and measure the frequency using a scope.

the second step is looking for the region where the E-TBC oscillate around its resonance frequency--- Don Smith refer this as regulation when he talked in one video about the famous yellow capacitor, this capacitor is for regulation not resonance----

using toroidal inductors with high voltage diode is just another idea but the better choice is impedance matching so the following proposed circuit may help ---

measure the frequency of your HV power source, measure the inductance of your toroidal ,add a capacitor as shown to match the resonance frequency of L /C with your HV module frequency, i assume the inductance and capacitance for the E-TBC to be negligible if you are working around 20MHZ frequency , the HV diode block the returning oscillation so the E-TBC will oscillate as expected ! i am still facing problems in this part but i hope we will find a solution soon !

[med.3012]

Hi !

my small laboratory isn't equipped with L/C meter, i don't have a signal generator but i am going to use my ne555 variable frequency oscillator with my digital PC oscilloscope to predict the resonance frequency for the matching network

in my part this is the best i can do !

[John.K1]

Hi Med, make a video of your tuning process

[med.3012]

HI John !

you are welcome, no problem at all but i am facing some problems ..... so my work isn't fast as i expect to be !
in my position i surfer the lack of needed material the same about tools , this is why i seek help here and in other places ....