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  • Originally posted by John.K1 View Post
    Hi Med.
    I was just about to do it opposite way.

    The strength o magnetic field depends on the number of turns. Smaller diameter means more turns, right??

    Hi John!

    you are right! but in optimal condition if you have 5 turn in 5 cm diameter, and i have the same number but in 10 cm diameter for sure my magnetic field will win!

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    • Hi John!

      my time was limited yesterday to give you an appropriate reply, the magnetic field is related to the number of turn as you said plus the electric current generate that field, when we talk about the induced electric field the radius of your E-TBC play a critical rule, more diameter will lead to stronger induced electric field, this field is confined inside the variable magnetic field

      because of that it's better to put the main E-TBC inside the excitation one, so we are sure most magnetic field from the excitation coil will enter the main E-TBC, more turn with good diameter will charge the E-TBC to very good value without the need of complicated tuning, if we are able to make the two coil resonate at the same frequency this will be very good otherwise we have to think about the back oscillation by adjusting the gap of spark so the reverse oscillation will be very weak to perturb the oscillation of the main E-TBC or we have to use a HV diode in X position so the oscillation will move to only one way.

      i am not sure about the impact of back oscillation ( generated from the excitation coil ... ) in the main E-TBC, but it have to be small or it may generate a back magnetic field reverse the main needed for excitation.

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      • Hi Med,

        " it's better to put the main E-TBC inside the excitation one" - seriously, I am confused. Too many ideas at the same time. What is the Excitation one and what is the main one?? So how many ETBC's is in the cuircuit?

        Seriously, one small "complete" sketch says more that 1000 words

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        • Originally posted by John.K1 View Post
          Hi Med,

          " it's better to put the main E-TBC inside the excitation one" - seriously, I am confused. Too many ideas at the same time. What is the Excitation one and what is the main one?? So how many ETBC's is in the cuircuit?

          Seriously, one small "complete" sketch says more that 1000 words
          i don't have a scanner at this moment- i use paint.net to draw my idea, i think it's better to use my hand but the idea is very simple, you asked this :
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          What is the Excitation one and what is the main one??
          if you have two E-TBC just put one inside the other ! the larger one have to be fed in resonance, just put your spark gap in CD position, now this is the excitation coil, the main E-TBC is the target coil because it will receive the induced electric field only, it's an open circuit, the magnetic field will not be degraded but we need the induced electric field generated from the excitation coil, ok ? is this difficult ? if this coil will oscillate because it will be charged we don't need to connect it to anything, it receive the power , the capacitive side will be charged and after that it oscillate, it's the main E-TBC because the junction CD is closed there why we have to close this point? because it's the current path, without closed CD there's no electric current produced.

          don't be confused, just ask gain if you don't understand, soon i will put some drawing, even the previous posted one is very simple also!



          you see the excitation E-TBC with open CD ok? your high voltage source is connected here, now put another E-TBC inside the first, this is the main resonating coil, again with a closed CD, this will ensure the induced field will build a difference of voltage in the main E-TBC, when this is done, it will oscillate and pump the power, at this point just put your L2 coil to receive the power, if correct combination is used this system will give the sing of power ! if you are not able to do that, just wait until i do the test and share the results!

          when i talk at this forum i am thinking loudly, at least i can hear the echo of my voice !

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          • Hi Med,

            I have only one ETBC And now making PCB of my new Kacher .
            Last edited by John.K1; 10-15-2015, 04:34 PM.

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            • Originally posted by John.K1 View Post
              Hi Med,

              I have only one ETBC
              just use a saw and divide it into two parts ! i am just kidding, in reality i built a lots of E-TBC maybe more than 10, i lost them all due to the number of test, i need some materials to start building, i live in a rural area so i can't get what i need easily, i saw your E-TBC and i think you need a larger one for excitation purpose.

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              • Does ETBC has to be high? What about 50-60mm width( height)? I can make easely veeery long stripes and wind it on larger 100mm tube. I use special thick tape. OR I have around 200 m of thinner 200mm width Kapton tape I use for heat bed of my 3D printer.

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                • Yes higher E-TBC is better, the altitude is the extension or the capacitive side, it's responsible for the amount of electric current produced, the width is responsible for the voltage built, there's a mutual exchange between the two side, the right width with the right altitude give the best results.

                  if you use a higher E-TBC this don't mean to use a few turn, you have to think on the both sides together, build the better E-TBC you can do, big diameter difference between the two E-TBC isn't needed, think about this like that : you have your old E-TBC and you want to make it resonate with its full structure ( this mean the CD is closed ) you just need a relatively similar E-TBC but wider to slide over your main E-TBC, we have to be sure the main E-TBC is charged.

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                  • just a simple drawing to explain the idea !
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                    • Hi med!
                      Did you put some magnetic core (iron lamination or ferrite)??
                      Thank you for sharing your great reasearch! It is apreaciate.
                      :0)

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                      • Hi Wistiti!


                        Thanks for your post, i still didn't tested the proposed system so i can't guaranty my answer about using a magnetic core, the reason for that is : The E-TBC don't behave like ordinary coil, in Cartesian coordinate (x,y,z) if we put an ordinary coil the same way as an ETBC, the magnetic field don't behave the same way, the magnetic field is assembled across Y axis ( ordinary coil ) , in the E-TBC it will assemble across X, if you put a ferrite rod inside an E-TBC and watch the frequency, it will not change ( drop) too much like an ordinary coil !

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                        • Hi Wistiti! Hi John! Hello everyone,


                          After Wistiti post i found a small defect in the last proposed system to feed the E-TBC, i think the two coil the excitation E-TBC and the main E-TBC have to work in the same resonance frequency.... ..., the problem i found is related to the collapsing magnetic field that generate an opposite induced electric field direction, i don't think the electrons in the main E-TBC will move before the magnetic field generated from the excitation E-TBC start degrading, so we have to know the direction of magnetic field produced from the main E-TBC ( at first sight ) not to oppose the field from the excitation E-TBC when start losing its field, just change the orientation of one of your two coil, only one have to be turned 180° if such problem is encountered, i hope we will not need to have the same frequency on both coil since it's not very easy to do.

                          this is just and idea. :-)
                          Last edited by med.3012; 10-17-2015, 09:15 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by med.3012 View Post
                            Hi Wistiti! Hi John! Hello everyone,


                            After Wistiti post i found a small defect in the last proposed system to feed the E-TBC, i think the two coil the excitation E-TBC and the main E-TBC have to work in the same resonance frequency.... ..., the problem i found is related to the collapsing magnetic field that generate an opposite induced electric field direction, i don't think the electrons in the main E-TBC will move before the magnetic field generated from the excitation E-TBC start degrading, so we have to know the direction of magnetic field produced from the main E-TBC ( at first sight ) not to oppose the field from the excitation E-TBC when start losing its field, just change the orientation of one of your two coil, only one have to be turned 180° if such problem is encountered, i hope we will not need to have the same frequency on both coil since it's not very easy to do.

                            this is just and idea. :-)


                            this was just an idea but after examining the idea thoroughly there's no need to change the orientation of main E-TBC because it will see that magnetic field as if it's produced from the main E-TBC itself, whatever the orientation of the main E-TBC the magnetic field from the excitation coil will be seen if it's produced from the main E-TBC, when the magnetic field start to collapse the two magnetic field must be oriented to the same direction even though one will increase ( main E-TBC ) but the other will decrease ( excitation E-TBC ), here the question if one will produce a CW rotating electric field while the other will produce a CCW electric field the two field will cancel each other or at least a weakening will happen ?! what do you think ?

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                            • Hi to All ,


                              i was thinking about the last asked question about the induced rotating electric field generated from both E-TBC ( the excitation one plus the main E-TBC ), in reality it's a difficult question regarding the geometry where they interact with each other especially the behavior of electrons in both coil..

                              i just divided one mixed E-TBC to form this experiment, the main E-TBC is charged with the induced electric field as expected but still further experiment have to be done to know exactly if this method is appropriate or no .

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                              • The following drawing show the addressed problem, maybe we could find a solution by using an appropriate length, so maybe it's better to use a small length for the excitation coil with this the magnetic field zone will be small..
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