If this is your first visit, be sure to
check out the FAQ by clicking the
link above. You may have to register
before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages,
select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.
Hello Med.3012,
Is there a pdf you have written for this new parallel E-TBC development?
Regards
Dwane
Hello Dwane,
still no pdf at the moment i find it very quick to make a video in youtube so it's possible to spread the idea in real time .
The D-ETBC is the needed step to make such compacted Tesla wireless power transmitter, the overall electric current have to be zero .. in Tesla system we have an open circuit :
in our compacted arrangement it's not possible to make such open mechanism in other hand we want to replicate power with radio frequency speed , the D-ETBC works in two way , like you receive power in two opposite direction so the primary coil see you receive nothing , here you can bypass Lenz's law because we use the same layer to make such opposite current , another strange movement can't be explained at the moment but i just give my point of view , there's an audio file from Don Smith where he talk about NORTH/SOUTH EST /WEST system , the D-ETBC offer this requirement , Lorentz forces also exist which is the responsible for electric current gain , we need other experiment so we are sure about what's going on !
Hello Med.3012,
It just looked like you were making your presentation from a prepared document. Anyway, my new toroids have arrived and I 'll be looking at winding one to test your first part of the theory by utilising successive bifilar windings. Although I am at the moment a bit unsure about how I will be able to use them to see the developed output.
Just to let you know I am still in the game! Just finishing off a small Tesla Coil to test my earthing connections.
Hello Med.3012,
It just looked like you were making your presentation from a prepared document. Anyway, my new toroids have arrived and I 'll be looking at winding one to test your first part of the theory by utilising successive bifilar windings. Although I am at the moment a bit unsure about how I will be able to use them to see the developed output.
Just to let you know I am still in the game! Just finishing off a small Tesla Coil to test my earthing connections.
Regards
Dwane
Hello Dwane,
Thank you for your support , as you see i have to go further in developing the idea without testing everything thoroughly ... this is not good but since i am working on this with few people i have no solution !
before you wind your S-ETBC i suggest using it in half open leg :
in this case half of it work as antenna , it can push power and it's a half open system , the more power you give the more output you have !
it's better to start winding your l2 coil before the ETBC s , in the case you use the open leg you can do that and change between the adjacent ETBC , for example if you start from A TO X where X TO B is open the next ETBC should be A TO X open where X TO B work inside the circuit ... with this you should achieve higher output level since each open leg will bring the oscillation to high level , i forget to tell this in the last post so here you are !
The D-ETBC is tested in several configuration without success .. still another improvement needed but the coil geometry is enhanced further more , i don't know how to call the next coil !!!
Hi Med, Unfortunately I have tried to view Rick's videos, I find them hard to watch for the full duration because they seem wordy and cyclical. He seems to be knowledgeable or maybe it's over my head, I feel like I'm being lectured not taught.
I am looking for some ideas of how many Tesla receivers you can use, without loading the transmitter. According to D.S. you should not be limited. I want to do what I did in the video, but transmitted through Earth grounding. So I welcome any input anybody has!
Hi !
i agree with you, i suggest them to refresh your mind so maybe an idea will pop up, i am trying the same things but i want something compacted, i had an idea , i tested it but it's another failure
i gave it the name the D-ETBC, a kind of coil that work as energy harvesting :
after testing it i am able to know why it's a problematic , the geometry is very complicated , here you are the video describe it :
i was trying to use the right angle as described by Don Smith, also eliminating lenz's effect , i have a conclusion the right angle is the most important phenomena ... but the worst covered in text book !!! something they call Heaviside Energy Flow at Right Angles, even in the video of Rick Friedrich isn't explained so it can be fully used , Don smith talk about using the magnetic field at right angle but Rick Friedrich show us the old expiriment using two plates as a capacitor where he applied an electric current ...
another important discussion is the Lenz's effect ??!! is it so important to cancel it ? in smith PDF he talk about the loaded Dipole and their electromagnetic radiation ..
i think it's not important to get rid from Lenz's effect because it helped don smith to achieve high output .
Hi med.3012,
Now I have gotten the Tesla coil working, just needs a bit of fiddling to optimise resonance, I am ready to wind a new coil arrangement. I have received my large circular magnifer cores. From your youtube presentation, I'll start with two independent coils on the one toroid. I am also thinging that is it possible to wind a third coil too to use as distibutor coil when place in the centre of the magnifier set up. should not take too long. It is very hot here, overnight 30C, uncomfortable, not conducive to work!
Hi med.3012,
Now I have gotten the Tesla coil working, just needs a bit of fiddling to optimise resonance, I am ready to wind a new coil arrangement. I have received my large circular magnifer cores. From your youtube presentation, I'll start with two independent coils on the one toroid. I am also thinging that is it possible to wind a third coil too to use as distibutor coil when place in the centre of the magnifier set up. should not take too long. It is very hot here, overnight 30C, uncomfortable, not conducive to work!
Regards
Dwane
Hi Dwane!
this is a good news ! if you can't wind the third excitation coil forget about it ! but it's a good idea to use open legs as i said in previous post, don't lost all your resources because there's other experiments we need to do
at the moments i am using a ferrite rod ( home made ) for a new test but the magnetic permeability is very low because i am using fragmented ferrite mixed with cement ( it's shown in previous posts here ) the permeability equal to 6 !!! this is why i think about stainless steel as alternative but i am still not sure if it can work in HF
Hi med.3012,
Looking at the youtube video, I am thinking that your Toroid must be massive!. My toroid centre orifice diameter is 53mm and the bottom span is 125mm. Here is a photo getting ready for the next process of overlaying the ETBC coils. Two winds.
I am going to have to wind my first trial ETBC coils much narrower than you suggest, theoretically, they should still work, maybe just not as powerful. I calculate that I shall have to make them 35mm wide to safety get four coils placed. Also, I am not sure about my L0 windings. I have used 0.8mm wire and I have 84 turns each half. The wire iengths are exactly the same , but my inductances show a variation. One side 4.2mH the other side 4.28mH. I know you said precision was paramount!
I have no real idea about tuning this set up, so its trial and error. Here is a pic of my toroid ready, patiently waiting for its next "Suit!". The Tailor thinks a couple of days.
The used Toroidal is the one found in old TV deflection module, they come with nearly the same size , the difference is due to screen size, as i see your photo i used the same as yours , the work in this little space was very difficult but i tried it just to see what's going on , the best material should be the Metglas .
in other hand you are using magnet wire in my setup i used multistranded wire, magnet wire isn't the best choice since you are capturing high frequency waves the limited surface will narrow the power gain ..
when you charge your capacitor banks please notice the charging speed , if you come up with better core i shall suggest more exciting experiment, my failure with the D-ETBC gave me another better view.
in other hand you are using magnet wire in my setup i used multistranded wire, magnet wire isn't the best choice since you are capturing high frequency waves the limited surface will narrow the power gain ..
Hi med.3012,
would the multi strand wire have been Litz wire, or standard cable type?
Will rewind my toroid, pointless to use wire that has history.
With the narrow foil, what is your thoughts on folding say 100mm section to give 33mm section, using a fine separator withing the folds. The terminals will still be at the same distance and the surface area the same, only real space smaller?
Hi med.3012,
would the multi strand wire have been Litz wire, or standard cable type?
Will rewind my toroid, pointless to use wire that has history.
With the narrow foil, what is your thoughts on folding say 100mm section to give 33mm section, using a fine separator withing the folds. The terminals will still be at the same distance and the surface area the same, only real space smaller?
I do have my amorphous core! With bobbins.
Regards
Dwane
hello Dwane,
standard cable type the wire used in DC will do the job, yes you can fold the foils , no problem with that but smaller space between foils may lead to internal arcing .. choose the best insulator, don't worry about this experiment because soon we will move to another level
Hi Med.3012,
Thanks for the confirmation on the capacitor wrap.I probably will continue with this experiment, good practice! I have started, albeit rewinding to do, but, I don't see a lot of issues with the construction, except careful attention to the wind.
Hi Med.3012,
Thanks for the confirmation on the capacitor wrap.I probably will continue with this experiment, good practice! I have started, albeit rewinding to do, but, I don't see a lot of issues with the construction, except careful attention to the wind.
Thanks
Dwane.
Hi Dwane,
OK as you like , you can continue this experiments at the same time you can notice how this device charge the capacitor .. there's another unusual way to charge the capacitor with a fixed speed, i asked a friend to simulate electromagnetically my device but he don't have a lots of experience since these professional simulator come with unlimited options if anyone has such skills i invite him to help us for the benefit of all
the reason for this is to find the optimal value since there is a right angle magnetic field component, piezoelectric effect maybe involved because the electric charge will pass in different direction, when using the ETBC as a secondary you can take power from it even when you short circuit the dipole you are taking power from !!! it's an unknown area ..!
Comment