Quanta Magnetics Kits & Experiments

[Scorch]

Hey Wayne and thank you for the welcome.

And, yes indeed, he who makes a claim does suffer the burden of proof and must also bring his desired remedy. Otherwise his claim is merely a frivolous claim upon which relief cannot be granted.

And, yes, this even applies to trolls and naysayers who might make claims such as: "That's impossible and it will NEVER work!" or "the video is fake" or "the price is to high so the offered kit is a ripoff". And can even get into personal attacks against researchers, scientists, experimenters and inventors... BUT, where is the proof of their claim such as the "video is fake"? Without proof of their claim; it's merely personal opinion based on limited facts and personal belief systems. And I have no idea why they come other than to appear as and act in the capacity of a "disinformation agent".

When I first wanted to share this experiment with others; I took it to the OU forum where, in the past, I had a pretty good experiences sharing these things.
But, then, when I created a new thread specifically for the sharing of Quanta Magnetic kits and experiments this actually BEGAN with lots of unverified claims from others claiming such things as 'fake video' or 'I know it will never work even though I never built, tested, or even seen it merely because my other experiments failed' or 'The inventor knows nothing about electronics' and etcetera and etcetera... a never ending stream of frivolous claims and personal attack spam that continues even after the original topic dies but the thread continues to fill with pages of whoever is trying to be king of that hill of spam...

Of course; I never actually claimed anything other than my intent to replicate the experiment.

If there is anything I know; it is that I do NOT know until I actually gain knowledge by way of personal, hands on, experiential knowledge.

I do believe that, yes, there should be an archive and this forum should act as an archive.
Of course if it relies on outside data storage, such as external links to images, then this archive may find that it's data is incomplete due to broken links in the future beyond the control of the admin here...

Yes; I can provide external image links through one of my own servers but do not understand why this should be necessary. I have been using a web host for over 20 years and it currently offers "unlimited disk storage and bandwidth" for basic web hosting at $4.95 per month. It used to be more like $9.95 per month for limited storage and bandwidth but as the internet evolved, bandwidth increased, and mega storage got cheaper and more competive, it's actually cheaper for more services. So I have no idea why an important archive might limit image storage to only a few MB per user... *shrugs*

Kindest regards;

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Allow me to be one of the first to welcome you, Scorch. Aaron is #1 on this forum, I'm glad you found us. It is standard procedure to post your pictures elsewhere and post links only. Also, Aaron is attempting to create an archive of experiences and results here, so voluminous pictures are somewhat out of place. The fact remains that this forum is well known and trolls are frequent posters here. My suggestion to you is to keep your posts factual and avoid claims that will bring out the worst from trolls and naysayers. On the other hand, do whatever you think is best.

Personally, I like what you have shown here and it seems reasonable. It looks like OU to me.

[Scorch]

Primary Pulsed Motor Rotor

Hello everybody.

Just another build photo.
This is the pulse motor rotor consisting of two polycarbonate disks complete with stainless steel screws, magnet retainers, and magnets.

These are very powerful, N52, magnets rated at 115 pound pull and I must empathize with Willie E. Coyote every time I am working with magnets this powerful...
See: K&J Magnetics - Products

One must be VERY careful not to lose control of these magnets.
They must be handled with great respect and held firmly and care must be taken not to allow the magnet to be attracted to another magnet or attract, in, something unwanted from the work bench such as a wrench, screwdriver, hot soldering iron or a barrel of TNT...

It has also been my experience that the tolerances in these QM kits are pretty tight so I always make sure the shaft is installed in the disks and/or hubs before final tightening of hardware; otherwise parts may not line up properly.

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And it does appear there is a substantial limitation on images being shared here so, unless this changes, there is no point in resizing and sharing just the few images that fit within said limitation.

Here are the external image links. Do not know long these will be available-
http://rodscontracts.com/images/proj...G1_PMrotor.jpg
http://rodscontracts.com/images/proj...yoteMagnet.jpg

[Scorch]

G1 Alternator Rotors

Hello all.

This is the three phase alternator rotors.

It does appear to be very nice engineering here including dual rotors that provide for magnetic flux on both sides of the coils for increased efficiency.
As compared to a more conventional alternator that might only have a single magnetic rotor inside a field winding surrounded with energy robbing iron cores, steel housings, hardware and etcetera.

Pretty straightforward assembly without any challenges other than the occasional plastic bur in the tapped screw holes.
Rotors are 6.375" diameter and appear to be acrylic.
Each rotor has 16 poles.
Magnets are-

16 pcs of Countersunk Magnets 1"L x 1/2"W x 1/8" Thick N42 - North face
K&J Magnetics - Products
16 pcs of Countersunk Magnets 1"L x 1/2"W x 1/8" Thick N42 - South face
K&J Magnetics - Products
Also sold as pairs-
K&J Magnetics - Products
And-
32 pcs of 1"L x 1/2"W x 1/8" Thick N42
K&J Magnetics - Products

Countersunk magnets are mounted with stainless steel screws then additional magnets merely sit on top of these mounted magnets and held in place their own magnetism.
Although, if I wanted to operate such an alternator at a high RPM, I would probably glue these 'face' magnets in place.

And, BTW, it really does help to have a magnetic pole identifier tool for building such things.
I used to merely use a magnet of known polarity but I am spoiled now that I have an electronic detector.

That is all for now.

Enjoy the experimentation, learning, and gaining of knowledge.

Kindest regards;

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http://rodscontracts.com/images/proj...atorRotors.jpg

[Scorch]

G1 Pulse Motor Seconday Rotors

Assembling the next set of rotors-

I used a cheapo arbor press to press the magnets into the intermediate rotors which do appear to be polycarbonate and are same diameter as primary motor rotor at 11".
Magnets are 18 pcs of 1.75" Dia x 0.25" Thick N42
K&J Magnetics - Products

The manufacturer calls these "secondary" rotors but I call them "intermediate" rotors because there is-
1. Primary motor rotor.
2. Intermediate rotors. (qty. 3)
3. Final alternator rotors. (qty. 2)

I also stacked all the moving parts onto a scale including all rotors, magnets, shaft, hubs, timing disk, flywheels and hardware in order to get an idea of what the total rotational mass might be.

The total kinetic mass in this device is right around 27 pounds.

And, yes, all these rotors do tend to 'couple' with each other.
Had to use lots of Styrofoam spacers just to make sure they don't all lock together on the scale.

I also placed the motor and generator sections side by side for a size comparison.
It does appear the motor section is substantially larger than the alternator it will drive along with the flywheel.

That is all for now.

Kindest regards;

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http://rodscontracts.com/images/proj...ingMagnets.jpg
http://rodscontracts.com/images/proj...iateRotors.jpg
http://rodscontracts.com/images/proj...ineticMass.jpg
http://rodscontracts.com/images/proj...Comparison.jpg

[wayne.ct]

Build Docs

I am glad to see you document the build and inform the rest of us. I intend to look at the pictures while the links are fresh and unbroken.

Perhaps Aaron will loosen the limits, but like sprocket said, it has been that way for a long time.

[Scorch]

G1- 3 Rotor Pulsed Motor Section

Hello everybody.

This reply pretty much brings us up to speed close to where I am in this build procedure-

This section was pretty straightforward although a little challenging.
I did discover that the through bolts for the primary rotor hubs didn't have quite enough threads for some reason so that the bolts were bottoming out on their threads instead of the washers and hub.

I haven't run into this issue on the previous Q3 build which, presumably, is the same rotor, bolts, washers and hubs.
It does appear that the distance is close enough that even a slight change from one batch of bolts to the next might be an issue such as a bolt manufacturer reducing the length of threads versus shoulder by just a little bit and the kit manufacturer (quanta magnetics) is already looking into this such as using bolts without shoulders.

The immediate solution is simply to add more washers or dye cut a few more threads in the bolts.
I decided not to bother with cutting more threads in these very hard stainless steel bolts, didn't have any stainless steel washers in this size, and I merely used some nylon washers from inventory.

The challenge with this section is that it all has to be assembled as a complete, layered, unit with end bracket, rotor, stator, another rotor, another stator then another rotor and all bolted together as a single unit while also making sure shaft is still free enough to move (for final adjustments) within four disks and two hubs with eight spacers in two different locations and eight hub bolts doing two different things where tightening one end loosens the other end and etcetera.....

That is all for now.

Kindest regards;

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http://www.rodscontracts.com/images/...bBoltIssue.jpg
http://www.rodscontracts.com/images/...orAndFrame.jpg
http://www.rodscontracts.com/images/...torSection.jpg

[Scorch]

I supposed it does come down to a question of WHY the limits?

If it's been like that for a long time; the assumption is that, way back then, there were limitations on bandwidth and web hosting, and this merely needs to be 'updated' or revised to bring it into the present.
When, today, we now have very large HD monitors, 4+ TB hard drives, streaming video, broadband providers and web hosting services offering unlimited data storage and bandwidth for $4.95 per month.

I believe it is worth investigating and updating.
Imagine the scenario where there is a thread detailing brand new, cutting, edge stuff but, then, those attempting to replicate are suddenly faced with the disappearance of the inventor as well as the images and documents that were NOT archived here...

Kindest regards;

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I am glad to see you document the build and inform the rest of us. I intend to look at the pictures while the links are fresh and unbroken.

Perhaps Aaron will loosen the limits, but like sprocket said, it has been that way for a long time.

[Scorch]

Hello all. :-)

Completed some more G1 assembly.

This is the gyroscopic rotor assembly complete with magnets, bearings, and flywheel.

This is certainly a substantial kinetic mass for a machine that, in the *video, is only using about 500ma.
In fact the over all mass, including everything, is around 27 pounds of rotating hardware... subject to air resistance... spinning at 500+ RPM while only using .5 amps... powering a light... charging the reserve...

*see: G1 Load Test 2 - YouTube

Project image-
http://www.rodscontracts.com/images/...copicRotor.jpg

PS: I am now the proud, new, owner of a pair of 14 AH Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries just like these-
Amazon.com: Shorai LFX14L2-BS12 Extreme Rate Lithium Iron Powersports Battery: Automotive

I bought these batteries because it appears these are one of the latest, greatest, new products in battery technology. And because there was discussion in Aaron and Peter's video about how well these types of batteries work as very low impedance batteries well suited for SSG experiments such as these old experiments I am now inclined to re-investigate in conjunction with these new batteries and the release of JB's new "advanced" reference materials.

Revisting an old experiment by Scorch -- Fur Affinity [dot] net
Mechanical Oscillator Energizer - Fan conversion by Scorch -- Fur Affinity [dot] net
Back to basics by Scorch -- Fur Affinity [dot] net
Litz Wound-Seven output, new rotor, 1 battery charges 3. by Scorch -- Fur Affinity [dot] net

Most of my SSG experiments were conducted with "gel cell" batteries which, as it turns out, maybe one of the worst types of batteries to use for these ongoing experiments. Which were always very close to 100% efficiency but never manged to achieve that all elusive goal due to lack of knowledge, advanced tuning, alternative configurations and decent batteries.

Turns out these cheap versions of AGM batteries just do not hold up well under these conditions compared to wet cells or, better yet, LFP batteries.

Kindest regards;

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[Scorch]

Just some more project images.

Main assembly with the flywheel and inner alternator rotor installed-
http://www.rodscontracts.com/images/...torMounted.jpg

Alternator stator section installed-
http://www.rodscontracts.com/images/...torMounted.jpg

Completed alternator-
http://www.rodscontracts.com/images/...onComplete.jpg

And, at this point, the main mechanical assembly is now complete including clearance adjustments and everything rotating freely-
http://www.rodscontracts.com/images/...nsComplete.jpg

And, yes, despite there being substantial clearance between pulsed motor rotors and alternator, there is a very strong magnetic field that is keeping the alternator magnetically 'coupled' to the motor even though, mechanically speaking, there is no direct drive connection between the two. Alternator may come to a complete stop with very little or zero effect on motor RPM.

Kindest regards;

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[Scorch]

Ultra Capacitor Modification

Hello everybody.

I recently managed to complete another assembly step for the reserve power pack which is part of this system.

These are off-the-shelf (Maxwell Technologies #BMOD 0058 E016 B02) ultra capacitor packs consisting of quantity six, 350 farad, ultra caps rated at 2.7 volts each and wired in series for a capacitor pack rated at 58 farad and 16.2 volts.
This is the system "reserve" power supply consisting of 3 of these packs (in parallel) for a total of 174 farads. (exact farad- 174.9999...)

These three capacitor banks do have internal 'bleed' resistors so, in the interest of achieving maximum efficiency, the quanta magnetics instructions are to remove all these bleed resistors by opening the cases, remove the sub-assemblies, and either cut or break off the resistors.

BTW: The instructions say to merely "slide out circuit board" BUT the tops of the caps are sealed in place so it does take a little effort and prying to work them loose and pull them out of the plastic housing.
So one should be careful not to crack the circuit board during this modification process.

http://www.rodscontracts.com/images/...rsFromCaps.jpg

That is all for now.

Kindest regards;

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PS: I discovered these resistors may serve another purpose other than to merely bleed off excess energy in unused capacitors for safety.

It appears these resistors may be what is called a "passive balancing circuit". So, without these resistors in place, it might be wise to take measures to re-balance the capacitors once in awhile such as to completely drain and "flat line" the capacitor banks before recharging again.

And this should probably be done to each, individual, capacitor by removing the cover (after discharge) and place resistors or even jumpers across each cap to ensure they are all completely drained.

[SilverToGold]

Hello,

Great build and thanks for sharing.

The emediapress.com site works for me. You should message Aaron as it's his web site I believe.

[TheoriaApophasis]

Hello Silver.

See: SELF CHARGING? - YouTube

to answer the "?"


the answer is NO.

[Scorch]

Very interesting answer!

How did you come to this conclusion and take such a bold position regarding the old experiment? For which it is assumed that you have not actually seen or tested in person...

Interesting position and new controversy you have now brought to us regarding the photographic video evidence at 6:28* in which the test instrument is displaying present 'charge' is only at 7.85vdc which, as soon as system is powered and starts up, begins to quickly rise and continues to rise to well over 20vdc and also accompanied by a corresponding increase in RPM as system reserve voltage increases or, otherwise, 'self charges' per this photographic evidence. Detailing a well built, intricate, system using no less than four different alternative energy inventions and three different energy conversions in a single device. With multiple Howard Johnson style magnetic ramps, Bedini style pulsed DC and BEMF, high efficiency axial flux alternator, Stargate motor modifications, Kinetic-Inertial Energy, Magnetism, AC and DC electrical energies and etcetera.

*See: SELF CHARGING? - YouTube

Have you carefully reviewed the entire video presentation and fully comprehended all the explanations and details presented including those leading up to this particular device, specific configuration, experiment and video documentation?
Have you visited the laboratory in person, investigated the test results, or conducted any of your own testing of the device you decided to have a problem with and bring this controversy to us?
Are you claiming the presentation is false or fraud and, if yes, on what grounds?

What is the cause, nature, and proof of your claim?

In the interest of resolving this controversy (you brought and now suffer burden of proof) to the satisfaction of all actually paying attention here-

I conditionally accept your claim the correct answer is "no" upon proof of your claim.

Proof such as verifiable test results by independent testing of the original device and experiment. Furthermore; should there be a failure to prove your claim then it would certainly appear that your claim is false or, otherwise, a frivolous claim distracting all of us from the current experiment.

Please provide the proof of your claim to solve the problem you decided to have with said facts and photographic evidence resulting in this controversy you have now brought to us and, of course, the burden of proof you have now brought upon yourself.

Would you like to change or withdraw your position in order to immediately enlighten ALL of us (including you) from this new burden you brought?

I see no evidence or record the correct answer is "no" and I believe no such evidence or record exists.

I DO see photographic evidence that appears to indicate the answer actually is in fact: Yes.

Are there any objections supported by verifiable facts capable of rebutting these photographic evidence-facts and obvious conclusion?

Otherwise allow your silence, including failure to provide proof of claim, to be your consent there is no proof of your claim of: "no".
qui tacet consentire videtur

Kindest regards;

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to answer the "?"


the answer is NO.

[Scorch]

You're welcome and thank you for the compliment.
Positive support is ALWAYS appreciated.

And, yes, it appears the site is now back up and running and thank you for the update.

Although I have now asked Aaron a question about attachments including a reply to his message here as well as a private message days ago but, still, no response. The assumption is that he is busy or distracted and will, eventually, respond.

Kindest regards;

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Hello,

Great build and thanks for sharing.

The emediapress.com site works for me. You should message Aaron as it's his web site I believe.

[TheoriaApophasis]

What is the cause, nature, and proof of your claim?

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LOGICAL FALLACY


the burden of PROOF lay at YOUR FEET.