80% water 20% fuel : same power output

[RAMSET]

TinMan has been working on this for some time now.

and we know that Johan _1955 has also shared a water fuel system.

but nothing like Brad's claim here.

80% water-20% fuel

also will be discussed here
80% water,20% fuel.

Dogone
maybe you post a thread at Russ's place

thanks for looking
Chet

[Dog-One]

Dogone
maybe you post a thread at Russ's place

hehe

Most haven't had enough fun yet beating Stan Meyer to death. Give them time, they'll come around.

Besides, until TinMan is ready to share his recipe for his catalyst, it isn't fully OpenSource.

[Aaron]

water fuel

Ditto on the catalyst comment Dog-One - if there is one significant thing like that left out...

If they use plasma ignition on the generator, they can lean it out even more.

My jet engine runs on tap water with a small trace amount of propane and that is without even using HHO on it yet. I began with 8psi of a certain flow rate of propane to run it and by the time I was done with exhaust recycling, plasma, etc..., the propane psi gauge is at 0 psi because it uses so little that gauge can't read it. My guess is about 90% tap water and about 10% propane if even that much.

Mark McKay was kind enough to give me a couple flow meters that look accurate enough to measure the actual flow at that low level so I'll measure it when I have time, but cutting it from 8psi to 0psi (on the gauge) is quite a cut.

The jet runs so efficiently, I can put my hand about 3 feet from the exhaust and keep it there it is so cool running.

[RAMSET]

Power

Aaron
I have never seen Brad post on a topic in an Open source forum and not share the details [when he was ready]

To be honest,
I believe the claim here is not Running on water ... its running a given volume thru the engine with "gas" and then taking that same volume and replacing a significant part with water plus a catalyst [80% total].

and doing the same work as the gasoline did.

that is the claim.
Power....

thanks for looking

Chet

[tutanka]

Ditto on the catalyst comment Dog-One - if there is one significant thing like that left out...

If they use plasma ignition on the generator, they can lean it out even more.

My jet engine runs on tap water with a small trace amount of propane and that is without even using HHO on it yet. I began with 8psi of a certain flow rate of propane to run it and by the time I was done with exhaust recycling, plasma, etc..., the propane psi gauge is at 0 psi because it uses so little that gauge can't read it. My guess is about 90% tap water and about 10% propane if even that much.

Mark McKay was kind enough to give me a couple flow meters that look accurate enough to measure the actual flow at that low level so I'll measure it when I have time, but cutting it from 8psi to 0psi (on the gauge) is quite a cut.

The jet runs so efficiently, I can put my hand about 3 feet from the exhaust and keep it there it is so cool running.

Please post the video of your jet engine..

[RAMSET]

load procedure for prototype analysis

Note. the system has been run with out any HHO for the last year ,but engine damage was a problem [long term testing]

recently HHO has been added to The fuel mix.

this is the simple yet effective test protocol

Brad
quote

ATM we are useing 20% gasoline,10% catalyst,and 70% water-->with the addition of the 7LPM of HHO.
The catalyst is to remain with me and my partner ATM,but the rest of the system is of course -open source.

Our test method ATM
Our load is a string of incandecent party lights that places around a 600 watt load on the generator.We simply measure the voltage across the light string so as to maintain the same load throughout the testing.The engine is also goverened,so speed remains constant.
We first run the unit on straight gasoline,and use a set volume of 200mL. We simply time each run,and record the result's.We then add the 700mL of water,and 100mL of catalyst to the gasoline,and run the test again,with the HHO as well of course.To achieve the 240 volts needed from the 24 volt altinator,we simply use a 24 v to 240 v inverter-->in this case,a UPS,so as we get a true sine wave output.

We are still working on getting the gasoline ratio down even further,but at this time it seems we have reached the limit with the materials and funds we have at hand.

[tutanka]

Note. the system has been run with out any HHO for the last year ,but engine damage was a problem [long term testing]

recently HHO has been added to The fuel mix.

this is the simple yet effective test protocol

Brad
quote

ATM we are useing 20% gasoline,10% catalyst,and 70% water-->with the addition of the 7LPM of HHO.
The catalyst is to remain with me and my partner ATM,but the rest of the system is of course -open source.

Our test method ATM
Our load is a string of incandecent party lights that places around a 600 watt load on the generator.We simply measure the voltage across the light string so as to maintain the same load throughout the testing.The engine is also goverened,so speed remains constant.
We first run the unit on straight gasoline,and use a set volume of 200mL. We simply time each run,and record the result's.We then add the 700mL of water,and 100mL of catalyst to the gasoline,and run the test again,with the HHO as well of course.To achieve the 240 volts needed from the 24 volt altinator,we simply use a 24 v to 240 v inverter-->in this case,a UPS,so as we get a true sine wave output.

We are still working on getting the gasoline ratio down even further,but at this time it seems we have reached the limit with the materials and funds we have at hand.

As requested to Aaron.. Please post also you the video..

[RAMSET]

Popcorn too ??

Tutanka
sure
The TinMan is a regular spielberg with the Movies
I will post them as they come.

You bring the Popcorn...

thx
Chet

[tutanka]

Tutanka
sure
The TinMan is a regular spielberg with the Movies
I will post them as they come.

You bring the Popcorn...

thx
Chet

Yes.. Popcorn and bier

[Aaron]

jet engine

As requested to Aaron.. Please post also you the video..

A video of that was shown as part of my presentation at the 2014 conference. The demo of that jet was given to a couple angel funders. I might put that segment on youtube at a later time. It is about 8 minutes long and was never intended to be shown to the public.

[tutanka]

A video of that was shown as part of my presentation at the 2014 conference. The demo of that jet was given to a couple angel funders. I might put that segment on youtube at a later time. It is about 8 minutes long and was never intended to be shown to the public.

I'm not the public.. you can upload your video on youtube and sent me the unlisted video link ON SKYPE. Just for watch if your system work with water and hydrocarbon only. Thanks in advance