Tesla's Special Tri-Metal Generator

[Vinyasi]

According to William Lyne in his book, Pentagon Aliens, Tesla had a generator that the Nazi's used during WWII in their electro-U boats having a range of 30,000 miles. The generator used the three metals of: aluminum, copper and iron. For every 200 pounds of iron attached to the device (in addition to any iron inside of any coil windings), one horsepower was added to the generator's output. The electro-mechanical watt hour meter of a bygone era (for some of us) is an extremely scaled down version of Tesla's Special Generator to the point of mediocrity.

So,...

Anyone have any ideas to share?

Mr. Lyne doesn't give much information more than this towards the back of his book, but he does give pictures and some insightful speculation on how it might have worked.

One embodiment of his employs the use of compressed air to drive a reciprocating piston which oscillates no more than a sixteenth of an inch. Also, its frequency of oscillations must be in resonance with the cavity surrounding the generator.

Mr. Lyne speculates that the huge hull of Germany's U-boats would have added a lot of horsepower if connected to this device.

Since I don't have any background in electrical bench testing, or even theory, my best guess is to stumble along holding onto wishful thinking driven by the notion that - if its true that 550 of Tesla's patents, out of a total of 700 - are highly classified *top secret*, and that this one patent of Tesla's is just one among those that have been squirreled away from us, then I feel that it belongs to us and not to a privileged few. So, I'm game to speculate on the notion that maybe we can slowly figure this mystery out.

[Vinyasi]

I might as well add that a friend of mine, an electrician, had the good fortune of personally knowing a coworker who demonstrated a successful replication of this type of device several years ago no larger than a spiral bound notebook for two of its dimensions which ran a medium sized electric motor. It was taken away and the demonstration was abruptly terminated when the inventor started having misgivings for exhibiting his device and it was never discussed nor demonstrated ever again except at a dinner in which my friend hosted this inventor. At this dinner, the inventor shared only one fact of his device, that it was made of the three metals: copper, aluminum and iron. So, I can claim knowing twice removed of the validity of Mr. Lyne's story in addition to the story - quoted in Pentagon Aliens - of a Mr. Dort who was the son of a man who worked with Tesla sharing this knowledge with the Nazis for their electro-U boats.

[wrtner]

The electro-mechanical watt hour meter of a bygone era (for some of us) is an extremely scaled down version of Tesla's Special Generator to the point of mediocrity.

I, too, have heard this said. But a meter of a particular type, like this, I think:

Overview of Single Phase Induction Type Energy Meter | EEP

It should be possible to work out what is going on. someone said that it had physics in common with the unipolar generator.

[Vinyasi]

I, too, have heard this said. But a meter of a particular type, like this, I think:

Overview of Single Phase Induction Type Energy Meter | EEP

It should be possible to work out what is going on. someone said that it had physics in common with the unipolar generator.

Thanks for the tip.

Although I thought I had experimented enough, and because Mr. Lyne said that any make and model of the electro-mechanical watt hour meter will do the job, I stopped experimenting because I was failing to produce results, namely: reaching center of load wherein the aluminum disk stops spinning and hums. According to the Electrical Meterman's Handbook from 1912, this occurs whenever the amperage and voltage are out of phase by 60 degrees (possibly with the current still retaining its leading position ahead of voltage instead of swapped?).

Mr. Lyne said there was only a few requirements: wire the meter backwards such that the line entering from the power source is connected to the load terminals on the meter, and the load wire is connected to the line terminals. The other requirement is to increase the load.

A patent from the 1930s admitted that it was known back then that the aluminum disk slows down around 300% to 400% of rated load for the meter. And this occurs, according to Mr. Lyne, whenever the increasing load is approaching the meter's center of load. The disk will speed up, slow down, stop and hum, and then slowly (at first) speed up in reverse direction as the load is increased. But only if the terminals on the meter are reverse connected to line and load. Various meter handbooks speak of the commonality of meter disks reversing direction merely from swapping terminal connections. This implies that the disk is already reverse spinning (when the terminal connections are swapped) before center of load is reached. So that, once center of load is surpassed with increasing load, then the disk will resume in a spin opposite to its former direction - which will be standardly normal, left to right on the dial!

I loaded up a General Electric I-10 meter from 1910,

General Electric Type I-10

...rated at 5-10 amps, to around 48 amps and no sign of any reduction in speed of disk - let alone humming or reversing. I tried both forward and backwards terminal connections. Plus, I tried various loads: inductive and non-inductive. I was afraid of taking the amperage any higher for fear of overheating the house wiring in the walls.

Maybe I'll try again with the model which you have suggested.

[ewizard]

Based on info in Lyne's book I bought 4 regular house electric meters (mechanical - not the new electronic type) a couple years ago. I played around with them a little and was trying for the effect he said he saw with 2 meters hooked together in some way that resulted in the meter going backwards on the house. I had some trouble figuring out how the meters were normally wired up if I recall despite doing all my own house wiring including installing the main 200 amp meter socket and panel. I had always intended to write Lyne to ask his help on this but it got lost in the shuffle of a hundred other things to do. I still have the 4 meters. Might play around with them some more but it would help if there was a schematic on how to set them up. I don't actually recall him saying to hook ONE up in reverse by itself. Was that in his book?

[Vinyasi]

Reverse wiring of the watt-hour meter...

No. Reverse wiring was not in his book. What he said was, "in a peculiar way".

But he was interviewed by a Paul Scarzo and, in that interview, he admits to accidentally hooking them up backwards on two separate branch circuits in one of the apartments in his complex. He also has admitted the backwards requirement, more than once, in emails to me.

I did a watt hour meter YouTube series starting off with an excerpt from that interview. Here it is,

http://tinyURL.com/tesla-sgen
or
http://tinyURL.com/teslasgen

...or search for the video series using the search terms:

tesla's tri-metal generator

[MasterBlaster]

Aluminium

The first two posts of this thread may be relevant to this topic.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...lectrcity.html

[Vinyasi]

Dirty Electricity and the Watt-Hour Meter...

The first two posts of this thread may be relevant to this topic.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...lectrcity.html

Very interesting link. Thanks.

In retrospect, I didn't immediately understand until now what you were implying, that aluminum - although functional in the original design of the watt-hour meter - is hampering our ability to measure what is going on: the production of dirty electricity.

To play it safe, I've ordered one DE suppressor and will probably order some more in the near future.

Despite these hazards, or instead of them, and in order to better understand how Tesla's Special Generator may have operated, I still pursue investigation into how on Earth do these old meters do their thing?

I've sometimes wondered if the separation of voltage from current in the watt-hour meter's armature might jeopardize our safe cohabitation with it? But I like to hold out the possibility of utilizing at least some of its principles of operation for some other device.

Here is a review I posted at Amazon on Joseph Cater's book, "The Awesome Life Force" regarding the reaction of aluminum to electromagnetic forces placed upon it ...

Fantastic text on little known principles of mechanical and electrical engineering..., December 15, 2014

[TheoriaApophasis]

Here is a review I posted at Amazon on Joseph Cater's book, "The Awesome Life Force" regarding the reaction of aluminum to electromagnetic forces placed upon it ...

Fantastic text on little known principles of mechanical and electrical engineering..., December 15, 2014

you can download that book FREE on scribd.com

[Vinyasi]

DC Transformers and Perpetual Motion Holders

I may never figure out how Tesla's Special Tri-Metal Generator works, but in the course of trying to figure out one thing, very often something else miraculously happens...

No one has done the correct experiment (show me if you know where; I want to know) to validate that transformers do indeed respond to a DC current.

Paul Babcock did the standard, one half of this experiment when he visited the Science, Energy and Technology Conference of 2013. He had Ed Leedskalnin's Perpetual Motion Holder experiment set up off to the side of the lecture hall.

The other half of a DC transformer experiment is to put two diodes in the middle of a double-pole, double throw switch inline with one lead coming off the PMH coil/s and the other lead that goes to the battery during charge. The other lead from the PMH coil/s could go to the light bulb and thence toward the other battery terminal during the charge cycle when these two bare battery leads are not bound together during discharge (which also lights up the light bulb). The light bulb lights up twice: during both charge and discharge.

An AC transformer has its primary and secondary coils separated. The DC transformer uses one coil to perform both charge and discharge of its combination straight bar plus horseshoe iron circular core.

An AC transformer terminates the first half cycle by electromagnetically breaking its iron core ring every 1/120th of a second (in a 60Hz electrical system) by attempting to recharge the transformer's core with a reverse current. For some reason, the energy which was put into the iron core at the start of the prior 1/120th of a second can't change its auto-pilot, DC habit of zipping around the toroidal core in its one particular DC direction without exiting the core, instead. This makes way for the new energy of reverse polarity to enter the system through the primary coil windings while the secondary coil absorbs some of the exiting energy put in during the prior AC half-cycle.

Up until now(?), the only way to duplicate the electrical termination of the first half cycle of an AC transformer within the context of a DC demonstration, was to physically break the circularity of the PMH/DC transformer ring by removing the straight iron (magnetizable) bar at the end of the two legs of the iron (magnetizable) horseshoe.

The diodes are to validate, by way of experimentation, that only two out of eight combinations are possible to light up the light bulb twice during both charge and discharge of the horseshoe/bar ring.

1. Two ways to connect the battery during each charging, first-half cycle.
2. Two diodes (along with their two current pathway-directions) to select via two ways to throw the double-pole, double-throw switch.
3. Two half-cycle occasions to throw the DP/DT switch: during each charge, or during each discharge.
4. Making a total of two to the third power, or eight, possible variations to determine the exclusive two occasions in which the light bulb lights up at the beginning of each charge and discharge half-cycle.

An AC transformer does one whole cycle 60 times a second (in north America). And anyone with basic understanding of electricity has no conventional guidance on how to go about measuring the characteristics of a DC transformer. So, we're led to believe that DC transformers don't exist.

Oops...

We have /a/ perpetual motion /holder/ sitting under our collective noses within each and every AC transformer...

[Vinyasi]

PMH and Back EMF

Let's take this surmising one step further...

I'll warrant that back EMF is nothing other than a PMH discharge already latent within a pre-magnetized(?), or magnetizable(?), situation?

Natural perpetual motion is all around us...

This would imply that perpetual motion exists all around us as a property of the aether. Magnetizable material, permanent magnets, and conductors of electric fields wound as spirals to cut across themselves (thus, inverting their electric field into a magnetic field) are all interfaces with the perpetual motion latent within the aetheric medium which surrounds us, and engulfs us. Back EMF is an indication of this.

Resistance within a conductor of an electric field is a pre-condition to back EMF. This sounds like a contradiction to perpetual motion unless magnetism is the ability to harness the perpetual motion within atomic, or electron, spin?

Electromagnetic resistance within a conductor may be the result of attempting to insert energy of inverted spin into a material which is opposed to giving up its inversion. This would include most metallic substances except iron. In iron, it's still opposed to the application of inverted spin, but at least iron is willing to give up its inversion by giving up the energy of its inverted spin since it's going to receive new energy anyway (in a transformer, or iron core coil winding). So, iron is flexible and makes for a good medium of energy exchange (which is the definition of money!).

[Vinyasi]

Torque via Mass of Iron?

The story-line is that for every 200 pounds of iron attached to Tesla's Special Generator, one horse-power was added to its output.

It vaguely may stand to reason, alone, that since a mass of iron can carry a magnetic charge away from its source along the entirety of its iron structure, that the mass alone could add a sort of torque to whatever perpetual motion of magnetic flux is set to motion within the entire body of its massive iron structure?

And the massive armature need only have a magnetic flux set to flow within a mere portion of itself to effect a flow within the remainder of it.

In other words, a laminated iron armature doesn't have to be a fully encapsulated core which is fully surrounded by its copper winding, but can extend beyond it and outside of it.

A watt hour meter has a circular laminate core with projections extending into its interior around which are wound the current and voltage coils. The remainder of the watt hour meter's armature has no winding surrounding it.

In other words, the hull of a German Electro-U boat used during WWII was the armature of its Special Generator which extended beyond the coil windings, and outside of them, with only a portion of the armature structure actually contained inside of the coil windings. This leads me to suspect that the hull was also laminated, just like an orgone wrapping.

[Sputins]

Iron

I might as well add that a friend of mine, an electrician, had the good fortune of personally knowing a coworker who demonstrated a successful replication of this type of device several years ago no larger than a spiral bound notebook for two of its dimensions which ran a medium sized electric motor. It was taken away and the demonstration was abruptly terminated when the inventor started having misgivings for exhibiting his device and it was never discussed nor demonstrated ever again except at a dinner in which my friend hosted this inventor. At this dinner, the inventor shared only one fact of his device, that it was made of the three metals: copper, aluminum and iron. So, I can claim knowing twice removed of the validity of Mr. Lyne's story in addition to the story - quoted in Pentagon Aliens - of a Mr. Dort who was the son of a man who worked with Tesla sharing this knowledge with the Nazis for their electro-U boats.

@Vinyasi

Nice articulated posts.

I was recently reading the old paper from William Lyne called “Free Energy Surprise”. (I have an idea for an experiment cooking in my head along these lines). This paper by Lyne describes apparatus for obtaining electrical energy from the air by way of burning atmospheric nitrogen and oxygen with an electric arc. – This from Tesla’s Manifesto, the Jan 1, 1904 Electrical World and Engineer.

Somewhere Tesla also said that he had found “…a new (‘environmental’ energy producing) use for iron”.. So I am searching for that quote reference and what context he used it in.. Anyone know?

Wouldn’t basic experiments with this Tri-metal idea simply begin with a few sheets each of iron, copper and aluminium? Then advance from there. Maybe the PMH could play into it as well?

[Vinyasi]

Getting first hand experience of the properties of iron via a bio-Earthing circuit.

@Vinyasi

Nice articulated posts.

I was recently reading the old paper from William Lyne called “Free Energy Surprise”. (I have an idea for an experiment cooking in my head along these lines). This paper by Lyne describes apparatus for obtaining electrical energy from the air by way of burning atmospheric nitrogen and oxygen with an electric arc. – This from Tesla’s Manifesto, the Jan 1, 1904 Electrical World and Engineer.

Somewhere Tesla also said that he had found “…a new (‘environmental’ energy producing) use for iron”.. So I am searching for that quote reference and what context he used it in.. Anyone know?

Wouldn’t basic experiments with this Tri-metal idea simply begin with a few sheets each of iron, copper and aluminium? Then advance from there. Maybe the PMH could play into it as well?

At the bottom of page 284 of William Lyne's Pentagon Aliens, he quotes a Mr. Dort describing the properties of iron, copper and aluminum as being magnetic, active and reflective. I pressed Mr. Lyne to be more descriptive about aluminum. He declined. Perhaps an opportunity to stimulate our own discovery? Plus, the story as he relates is not something anyone has publicly replicated, except for Mr. Lyne's Free Energy Surprise, so he and everyone else is relaying information which is at least second hand, or anecdotal.

I think iron is a good place to start. Also, any electrostatic properties of aluminum? It makes good lightening rods, maybe for some other good reason?

This is why I do experiments on using iron core coil windings for enhancing my Earthing bedsheet experience whenever I sleep on a silver-wire laced bedsheet while it is connected to the Earth through the iron cored, coil setup and document my results here. Removing the iron core (a galvanized pipe fitting 'floor flange' intended for screwing a pipe into it) and replacing it with two graphite/wood cores (pencils) connected in a circular loop vacates the benefit. But since the Earthing appliance setup is essentially an open circuit, and my inclusion of the coil is a closed circuit in the middle of the open circuit, my limited background in electrical theory leaves me clueless why this iron setup is integral to amplifying the benefit of grounding my body whenever I sleep.

This addition to Earthing appliances also amplifies the AC hum which bleeds over from the live wires in the house wiring to the grounding wire running alongside the live wires and has made me so sensitive to the AC hum that I now have to refuse to use any Earthing appliance inside my home if I can't establish a connection to any grounding rod which is independent of the ground wire of the house wiring - with or without using my iron cored device inline.

Any thought that this is somehow a placebo effect is erased the minute I use this device connected to the house wiring ground port on the wall outlet. Although I'm still baffled how the iron core manages to amplify the Earthing experience via a mere open connection to the Earth, I cannot ignore the AC hum experiences which I've repeated over and over again with their ensuing results: mild headache, extreme overly caffeine-like stimulation. It's a mystery.

[Vinyasi]

Ed Leedskalnin's response to validate a DC transformer...

No one has done the correct experiment (show me if you know where; I want to know) to validate that transformers do indeed respond to a DC current.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post268665