Gerard Morin's Video - The Doubt about OverUnity is Over

[vidbid]

I will be making my contribution to the joint effort by supplying a copy of the H-2000 and the H-3000 manual for the McCulloch generator.

I'll post a link to them in a few days.

Regards,

VIDBID

PS: I noticed that the wiring diagrams in them are slightly different from the one that I posted in this thread earlier.

[Turion]

Small replication first

I'm not sure there is any reason to spend all the money on the big replication when he also claims that it can be done on a smaller, far less expensive scale.

Here is the information you need
DRAIN PUMP Part # 137108000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEaSvtjoAMk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgzXuN0-K5A


I still plan to purchase the generator if it becomes available, and I hope some folks replicate this smaller version before diving off the deep end. I intend to when I have some time, but that won't be for a couple weeks. I am maxed out on projects right now.

Dave

[BroMikey]

Looking for a communication

Just checked my stock, happen to have multiple 5, 10, 25, and 37.5 KVA pole pigs on hand - have a good workshop and time,
what I don't have is the Generator.



Don't have a 50 on hand, but with all the other sizes we could provide multiple input/output current/voltage readings - we have data logging equipment so it would be no trouble to provide raw data over any time domain you want investigated.

Hitby13kw

Hello HITBY

Hang in there and check out this thread. I am looking for Matt and Turion to communicate with us when they are ready. Please be patient.

I just got in late tonight at 12oc.

We will be also watching for a video of you at your shop.

Thank You. Also it will take some time to ready the McCulloch plus getting a hold of a 50kva Pole Pig.

Bro. Mike

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...in-energy.html

[boguslaw]

What are you expecting ? Instead of looking for large 25kvar transformers just get a cheap ones 100-200W and pack into a box with transformer oil.
Small scale it should work the same !

[altrez]

I'm not sure there is any reason to spend all the money on the big replication when he also claims that it can be done on a smaller, far less expensive scale.

Here is the information you need
DRAIN PUMP Part # 137108000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEaSvtjoAMk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgzXuN0-K5A


I still plan to purchase the generator if it becomes available, and I hope some folks replicate this smaller version before diving off the deep end. I intend to when I have some time, but that won't be for a couple weeks. I am maxed out on projects right now.

Dave

Hi Dave,

That sounds like a great idea. If it works at a small scale then that would atleast give us some hope that it works on a much larger scale.

I pledged $200 for the project. If anyone would like me to throw this replication together over the next week I would be willing to I just need to order the pump and a better motor plus some other things to get it going.



-Altrez

[Zardox]

Thank you Turion - The point I have been trying to make all along.
Test the theory on a small scale before trying to build something for thousands of dollars.
I can't say I am finding OU yet but I am getting some interesting results. That little washing machine pump motor might make a fast and cheap way to make a small wind turbine as well.

[altrez]

Thank you Turion - The point I have been trying to make all along.
Test the theory on a small scale before trying to build something for thousands of dollars.
I can't say I am finding OU yet but I am getting some interesting results. That little washing machine pump motor might make a fast and cheap way to make a small wind turbine as well.

Hi Zardox,

Do you have a smaller build ready that you have been testing?

-Altrez

[Bob Smith]

Here is the information you need
DRAIN PUMP Part # 137108000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEaSvtjoAMk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgzXuN0-K5A
Dave

Just checked on eBay. I'm assuming that the pump doesn't come with the motor (which we want) unless specified. Can anyone confirm?
Here's the eBay link:
Electrolux Washer Drain Pump 134051100 137108000 | eBay

I'd like to try this out on a small scale first.
Bob

[altrez]

Just checked on eBay. I'm assuming that the pump doesn't come with the motor (which we want) unless specified. Can anyone confirm?
Here's the eBay link:
Electrolux Washer Drain Pump 134051100 137108000 | eBay

I'd like to try this out on a small scale first.
Bob

That is correct it does not come with the Motor. I found one that should work on Amazon:

AmpFlow E30-150 Brushed Electric Motor, 12V, 24V, or 36V DC, 5600 RPM: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific

Might be a bit over kill but its a good motor.

-Altrez

[kEhYo77]

Hi. To me it looks like high inductance of his pump motor used as a generator here causes CEMF delay when on load, reducing load on a prime mover DC motor. And the same thing happens with those can transformers. Thane's AUL effect is based on high inductance generator coils too, with a long rise time of currents to get to a point of RPM/frequency threshold, where CEMF from the generator is phase shifted 90 deg. reducing EMF requirements for the system to operate in that range of speed.

Listen closely of what he is saying here, showing the gen part: showing the gen part

"When you start it it has a lot resistance but when you spin it fast the resistance goes away"...

kEhYo

[altrez]

There are a few things on the video I wish he would of addressed.

1. They make it a point to show the temp of the transformers the sky the walls their hands but never show the temp of the electric heaters why is that? My 800 watt inverter will turn my heater on but it never gets that hot.

2. My saw never uses 1400 watts of power unless its doing work.

3. An amp meter located at the ingress of the current would be a good idea. I know he says he has a 30 amp fuse and I believe him however I would like to see the numbers.

4. An amp meter located on each device along with voltage readings at each device would be nice as well.

As far as the transformers getting cold most anyone who has worked with high voltage most likely has noticed that phenomenon. I have used MOT's with a high voltage driver and they get colder than room temp as well.



-Altrez

[Bob Smith]

Some Small Replications.

Thought I'd post these links to small scale replications:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLMrDCpjcIU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtBJmI48V9k (interesting results using AC motor as prime mover)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCEcGTU9Nyc (another variation)

Bob

[Matthew Jones]

As far as the transformers getting cold most anyone who has worked with high voltage most likely has noticed that phenomenon. I have used MOT's with a high voltage driver and they get colder than room temp as well.

-Altrez

Its called ESD Electro Static discharge. You ever noticed how static electricity shows up when its cold and dry?

And ask any manufacture of thermometer what effect does ESD have on an IR sensor? After all the control voltage put out by an IR sensor and interpreted by the microprocessor is based on whats hitting the sensor. Are IR sensors immune to all spectrum's of light. I bet not especially if they are made in china.

Lots of holes to fill for this info to be valid.

Matt

[vidbid]

Scan of an H-2000 & H-3000 Manuals

I will be making my contribution to the joint effort by supplying a copy of the H-2000 and the H-3000 manual for the McCulloch generator.

I'll post a link to them in a few days.

Regards,

VIDBID

PS: I noticed that the wiring diagrams in them are slightly different from the one that I posted in this thread earlier.

As promised, I'm providing some manuals for the McCulloch generator.

The link below is for an H-2000 manual that I purchased online. It is an original manual but was in poor shape.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwW...ew?usp=sharing

 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwW-hOB-KNeFSzl5SG05RE5yYlE/view?usp=sharing

Below is the link for the H-3000 manual.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwW...ew?usp=sharing

 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwW-hOB-KNeFcHdyT2RWTG51Xzg/view?usp=sharing

Regards,

VIDBID

[ewizard]

I don't think your gonna find cold current from that. Flyback and sepic currents are pretty hot.

I think the cold seen in the video is along the line of Electrostatic cooling. Maybe not. Unfortunately I don't think anyone is even going to test this guys theories let alone go out and buy the large scale transformer or develop a method for producing bipolar current that is independent of the grid.

I see some correlation between work I have done and what he is talking about so I want to try, but it will take bit of time. Gotta round up a few parts first and hopefully harvest enough crops over the next couple of weeks to afford a spool of wire or two.

If he is wiring the thing up with 120 vac then his voltages in the transformer are at 7200. to build a transformer your looking at 1:60 ratio. To keep from burning up your looking something like 25000 ft wire. Maybe 400 ft of 24 for the primary and 24000 ft for the secondary output.
You can use a real low induction on the primary but then you need to regulate current and that all has cost as well and i am not sure of the results if start regulating current. To test this you really do need those big transformers.

Anybody willing to pool some money and try? I got 200 bucks right now. I'll have to eat light but thats OK I'm fat. We can all buy in on some of those used transformers Mikey was talking about.

Come ON!! this is a discussion lets discuss it.

Matt

Matt, My first thought when I saw the IR Laser Digital Thermometer he was using that it was being affected by holding it right up against the 50000 volt output insulator. Anything digital that close to 50K volts or even 25K volts will likely give seriously messed up readings. That type of IR Laser thermometer can get good readings from at least a couple feet away without the need to be that close. I saw so many things in that video that had holes in them so to speak that I seriously doubt if they have anything of interest. I don't want to discourage anyone with the resources from exploring this further but Morin shows a considerable lack of knowledge and experimental controls in that video are not good. As Turion mentioned the heaters are another big concern. I believe even if they were on high that they would not blow any fuses in that setup (due to the back to back transformers) but would probably pull down the voltage a lot (depending on their internal cold resistance they might pull only a couple hundred watts if the voltage was dropping and current not available). Did they even take a reading off the heaters? I doubt they got much more than warm if even that.
Anyone playing with something like pole transformers needs to be super careful - like a MOT on steroids.