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  • Originally posted by Hitby13kw View Post
    In this video we have used the basic magnetic field explanation that every student has been exposed to since grade school,
    Very nice explanation Hitby.

    This is quite different from a typical transformer, in that the field lines actually do cut through the copper windings; not through a core or through the empty center of the copper windings. Notice in this experiment the magnetic field lines directly cut the copper windings of the pancake coil too:
    TEST #15 : Additional measurements with the GEGENE v1.3

    There may be something about this we should explore a bit more.


    Originally posted by BroMikey View Post

    When I ponder looping I remember JOHN BEDINI's energy from the vacuum series where (I forget the number) John explains how the energy transfer must take place in it's most basic form. What he said was that the coils make the radiant and then that radiant is rectified. Next the energy fills a capacitor and is disconnected completely from the radiant producing source and is dumped over the input and the process repeats.
    That is pretty much how Doug Konzen explained it too.

    Self-Looped Generators - PESWiki
    Last edited by Dog-One; 03-03-2015, 04:27 AM.

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    • Originally posted by Dog-One View Post

      That is pretty much how Doug Konzen explained it too.

      Self-Looped Generators - PESWiki
      Doug has followed the best, that is why he so good, I copied the text over, Thanks Dog


      BTW that is why a Bedini solid state Osc HOOKED to a cap dump is such a superior combination. Anyone who has never experienced filling caps with John's radiant Oscillator as compared to dirty wall current, can not pass go, let along collect the good stuff.

      It's like night and day, caps charge very quickly on almost nothing while force fed caps off wall current kick and scream every inch of the way.




      KROMREY/EKLIN

      For the output, put it into CAPS ONLY.

      Only CAPS hit resistive load. CAPS will be DISCONNECTED from coils/phases that feed them, whenever CAPS do hit load! THAT SIMPLE.

      The generator coils NEVER see a load, they only fill caps, and caps are only thing that ever hits the load.

      DO NOT do a "lump resistive load" on the power output - put the resistive load ONLY ON THE CAP DISCHARGE OUTPUT.

      This is called a "TWO-STAGE" output....ISMAEL DOES THIS...in fact, HE MUST, since if he puts the resistive load on the caps as they fill, everything will be snuffed out...so put resistive load on caps AFTER THEY FILL - and DISCONNECT CAPS FROM "SOURCE"" WHEN THEY FILL.

      OR, split-up the output into two halves - the pos phases going into CAP A and neg phases going into CAP B and CAP A discharges when CAP B fills and vice versa. This is called a DIODE PLUG OUTPUT - it is also in category of a two-stage output, too.

      Look at the circuit in the diagram below. This is a very important thing for everyone to know, because when you have engineers who put "lump resistive load" all the time on output, it KILLS any overunity effects in the FILLING OF THE CAPS...so let the caps fill UNLOADED.
      Last edited by BroMikey; 03-03-2015, 08:27 AM.

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      • Mike
        Maybe I didn't make my point clearly enough. I believe GM is showing that big flat motor as the means for generating "IMPULSE ELECTRICITY." This is a Tesla term, one which EPD talks about, I think in his "Anti Relativity" presentation. It was Tesla's next step in producing electricity after he had developed the motors and generators commonly used today.

        GM explains the principles of impulse electricity a little, and indicates why this kind of motor (on his table) works, just like the pump motor works. For me, the idea of impulse electricity and the principles behind it are the key to this technology. Once we know what to look for in an off the shelf motor, we can use it to our advantage to produce cold electricity.

        I'll see if I can go thru his video again and sync up a link to where he explains what I've said (better than me).
        Bob

        Edit: Okay, here's the link, cued up to where GM talks about the geometry of the brushless AC motor on his table, and why its config is so important to what he's doing. Watch from 28 minutes and on. Maybe I'm off-base, but it seems to me this is a crucial area for understanding what he's doing.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...etlCt8g#t=1681
        Last edited by Bob Smith; 03-03-2015, 05:26 PM. Reason: Adding Links

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        • Here is Gerard's latest post:

          "Lack of support and interest is causing me to have to stop my research. Even showing 550% over-unity is only able to garner a few excited emails. Countless replication videos, and even better results than I'm getting hit the internet, and still not support. I cannot save the world myself, the world will have to wait.
          Stop emailing me, stop phoning me, we live in a world of stupid. That is the way it goes. Good bye."

          So once again someone who APPEARS to have found something is disappearing from the scene. Fortunately, this time he revealed everything he seemed to know so that others can attempt to replicate and follow the path he has abandoned.

          Personally, I have a problem with his attitude. If you are doing this because you expect $$ or a cheering section, you should become a professional athlete instead. This work is for those who will grind it out with little reward or recognition because they believe it is the right thing to do. My hat is off to THOSE kinds of people. You have to have the courage of your convictions and apparently he does not. Unfortunate.
          “Advances are made by answering questions. Discoveries are made by questioning answers.”
          —Bernhard Haisch, Astrophysicist

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          • I just saw Gerards posting about quitting, and I posted this on the comments section:

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            What do you mean lack of interest? People are replicating your experiment all over the net, and on the energetic forum the guys have almost all the pieces together to replicate it with the big stuff. Rome wasn't built in a day, if you need donations or anything like that to continue, you have to be clear and show us how we can support you. Do you have a homepage? Do you have a "paypal donate" function on that page ? There's a lot of interest in your experiment, and it would be such a shame if you just disappeared at this time from the scene. Give it time man! I am totally convinced there are a lot of people wanting to help you, and as time goes by more and more prove you are right by replicating your work, and that in turn will make more people interested in helping you take it to the next level.

            You have been working for so many years with this, why give up now ? that pretty much goes against all the things you said in your q:a videos. People are buying washmachine pumps and stuff all over the world it seems to replicate your stuff, and then all of a sudden you don't want to participate anymore?

            I don't understand you, but I hope you are reconsidering, and get back in the saddle and post more videos. I sincerily wish you all the luck and progress with this, and I would be happy to donate and so are a bunch of other people as well to help you forward.

            Gerard, you have shown us the way, don't leave us hanging

            


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            hopefully he will take it the right way and understand I didn't mean to offend him, but encourage him.

            In any case I am sure you guys will make it work just as good as he would, but still it is a shame if he throw in the towel at this stage ..

            what do you guys think about it?

            have a good one

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            • Gerards Plate.

              Gerard is an old man who is being harassed by young people who have all day to trouble Gerard. Like John Bedini said years ago "You piss off the inventor and he leaves" John Bedini did this for a while and he did this when he was younger than Gerard.

              The Fed's are plotting and planting people who can network, lie in your face about funding, use the promise of funding to redirect the entire project. It's no fun and Gerard is finding out about the real world. Let him alone and he will rethink his salvation to the world horse sheet.

              Give me a massive break and even John Bedini responded this way? Sure we all get fed up with the plants who are sent endlessly to disrupt and destroy the continuity of uniting. This is where the power to excel is.

              Let's take John B. He is a wonderful man, kind, Gentle and has the understanding. John can teach great. But what you must have is someone with a nose like a hound dog with a killer instinct to run these sicko's off.

              I am not degrading John Bedini either so remember that, what I am saying is that we must work together because no one man can do it all. Some of us who are more schooled at handling the dog nature of humanity can alleviate the teacher so he may do his job.

              Gerard thought people were going to team up together and whip this thing but now he realizes that he is all alone in an up hill climb. Men like Gerard don't stop their work, they just isolate for awhile.

              Gerard needs time to make more progress and people are emailing Gerard expecting the results of his new flat motor idea, before he has anytime or money to accomplish it. Everyone wants the answer now and no one is willing to support the man's work.

              Gerard has bitten off a big chunk, more than he bargained for. Many inventors run into this dilemma. They have a burning desire to share their discoveries only to be met with yale/Harvard style egghead Kronies who have been indoctrinated to roast jewels in a pit, like you would at a barbeque.

              No one man can save the world. First of all the people in this world don't want to be saved by the other man's invention or by anything else for that matter. So working off the premise that your invention/dream is going to about face the world is delusional arrogance.

              A pissing contest. It's okay we are all full of beans at one time or another til we get hit in the nose a few times in this prize fight for the nature energy harvest.

              I don't like it anymore than anyone else does. Just last week a plant was sent to my group saying they will fund our project only to stop it completely, if he could. Sure I was hurt. I hate it when people play with my emotions and deliberately lie in my face.

              Most folks can not endure this treatment. Gang stalking bothers people too.

              Gerard will be back. Someone will give Gerard a few thousand and he will be up and at'em once again. Money is the cheapest thing you will ever have, it is true friendship that is worth more. Working to help one another is the key to your success.

              Gerard has shown us his open heart. The ruthless are sent to take a stab at it for a dollar. It doesn't feel good. Many men think they can lead the world into free energy. After sometime you get wise to the mockery.

              It takes more than you think to lead the public.

              Gerard has his pancake motor and he will have a new finding for us. Gerard should change his email and give it to someone who can screen people for him. Gerard has to much on his plate.
              Last edited by BroMikey; 03-04-2015, 08:16 AM.

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              • Investor Video

                Originally posted by Bob Smith View Post
                Mike
                Maybe I didn't make my point clearly enough.

                Edit: Okay, here's the link, cued up to where GM talks about the geometry of the brushless AC motor on his table, and why its config is so important to what he's doing.


                https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...etlCt8g#t=1681

                Gerard knows what he is talking about but he is not capable of using the right terminology. One time he says No square wave next time is says use a dc pulse or impulse. Gerard is rambling for hours to gain support and is only getting followers who are just now trying to verify his stuff.

                Gerard has not said anything new that John Bedini has not shown for the past 30 years.

                The prime mover rotates some magnets across coils. Same ole hat all dressed up on a different day

                Gerard talks leverage, look at the Bedini 10 pole leverage. Gerard talks impulse electrical output from magnets passing coils, look at the Bedini 10 pole. Gerard uses a DC motor as a prime mover to turn his magneto generator, look at the Bedini 10 pole having a prime mover/magneto generator all in one shot.


                The difference is Gerard is taking OFF THE SHELF motors to do the same job for less money than people may have to build an ENERGIZER. Also the 12volt ENERGIZER is not normally used to power loads the way we see Gerard doing.

                But an ENERGIZER can be built to do all of the same things. The window motor is an Energizer of a sort and has more torque.

                It is a motor Generator. You want off the shelf motors to do the same job, go for it.

                What we are talking about is a MOTOR/GENERATOR combination that men have dreamed of running over Unity for generations. Magnets are overunity devices.

                I can see it so clearly now. Howard Johnson Gates on a solid state Energizer.

                You don't even need a physically rotating wheel. Electrons rotate for you.

                What Gerard is doing is stimulating our understanding concerning how natural energy is made by passing magnets over coils, such as the washer discharge pump.

                It has been made simple, yet how many people are actually doing it? Who do you know has a 10 pole Energizer? The people think this is an old experiment not worth bothering with.

                Until people build them, they will be following people, not the experiment. Those of us here at the GERARD MORIN THREAD are following the experiment and this is why we will not be easily moved away from our goal.

                We already knew what Gerard was talking about.

                Mikey

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                • Sorry this is off topic in a way, but does he use a dish washer pump .. or is it from a laundry washing machine ?



                  hope that made sense

                  you all have a good one

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                  • Originally posted by Stringmanipulator View Post
                    Sorry this is off topic in a way, but does he use a dish washer pump .. or is it from a laundry washing machine ?



                    hope that made sense

                    you all have a good one
                    Hey String,
                    I think Morin used a pump from a front loading washing machine. Someone left a link to one on ebay early in this thread - you should be able to find it if you scroll along. One of the problems that the replicators have been finding with this pump is that the torque from imperfect alignment of its shaft with the prime mover causes the nylon bushing at the rear (of the pump) to weaken. One replicator solved this by cutting out the bushing and replacing it with a spindle from a hard drive. But for a first-off attempt, I wouldn't worry.
                    I did also see a replicator claiming to get the same results with a dishwasher pump. If you've got one handy, might be worth trying, but if you're looking to buy, I'd go with the one linked earlier in this thread.

                    Mike,
                    We may be talking the same language, but with differing terminology and concepts. I prefer to look at this thru the concepts Eric Dollard has presented - in terms of accessing the dielectric via an impulse which causes a disturbance in the dielectric medium/aether, which responds with an influx of dielectricity/cold electricity.
                    Anyway, what's important is that we forge on and get to the same place.
                    Have a good day.
                    Bob

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                    • Thank you Bob for the clear answer, I will go and find the link and see if I can get a hold of one.



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                      • Originally posted by Stringmanipulator View Post
                        Thank you Bob for the clear answer, I will go and find the link and see if I can get a hold of one.



                        @Bob and String....


                        When you find it, bring it back here so we can all see the material specific to Bob's comment. Once you get off in Eric's stuff you need to be ready to study for about 10 years to have it all sink in. Oh you get some good reading that shows us all a new way of equating.

                        At the end of the day, don't forget to run some experiments, collect data.

                        I Like book reading, don't get me wrong, I have read many powerful stories but none of that helped me to connect a resistor or wind a coil.

                        Show us your build, of anything.

                        It takes both. When people make it clear to me that they are all about reading books and articles and have never build a radiant oscillator, I know they are not serious about this work. You see with your mind in more ways than you think.

                        Handicapped people have a better chance of inventing new things because they submerse themselves in the experiment. This is all they can do because they may be some how socially impaired or otherwise, so they do what they can, with what they have. Hands on masters of the experimental approach to discovery.

                        The washer pump motor is nothing special. I have piles of them over here. I am an appliance repair man. I own dozens of them, they are a form of a permanent magnet motor. Gerard is showing each of us a simple way to make an impulse wave by turning a permanent magnet motor backwards.

                        The factory makes a silly little "N" "S" drum magnet by crushing some dust together hydraulically in a press in the presents of a magnetic field for alignment.

                        This means that a magnet passes a coil of some sort (I Like John Bedini's twisted coil) to produce an impulse wave. Can you imagine using a $100 magnets for a 10 Pole? Can you imagine the circumference of that circle where the magnet travels?

                        In the McCulloch the magnet provides free energy. In a standard Genset, there is no extra magnetic energy input that is always being added into the system free of charge.

                        Taking this use of a magnet further will increase the COP of the machine.

                        I can turn my joule thief/ringer on and hold the wires on the output close together to get sparks. These are radiant discharges and look like I am welding the copper together as it melts. The circuit runs a 120volt light bulb.

                        It is not normal electricity. It is impulse power. Same as what Gerard makes with an off the shelf pump motor. These pump motors have been used for 20 years. They are found in top loaders, front loaders, dishwashers, ice-machines, any device that needs water pumped. Humidifiers. They are thrown away by the bushel basket everyday.

                        Swimming pool pumps use these designed.

                        A treadmill motor that is 5 amps @ 90vdc is a good high powered magnet motor. They commonly have a large steel flywheel attached to the pulley.

                        The large Flat washer drive motors can be rewound to do many things, but again we are talking experimental work that book worming can't do.

                        Show me something.
                        Last edited by BroMikey; 03-04-2015, 09:43 PM.

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                        • I would love to respond to this.
                          I am surprised that no one else has.
                          I would want to do it in a respectful manner
                          But I honestly don't know where to begin

                          I should probably just stay quiet
                          and take a walk

                          But it just isn't in my nature......

                          I'm going to leave most of what I am thinking...perhaps for someone else at a later date.

                          I'll just stick to the technical side of your post as it relates to this thread.

                          Some call what we seek radiant. I'm calling it the magic blue smoke. We want the magic blue smoke to come out as opposed to other colors of smoke.

                          BroMikey, you seem to understand perfectly what Gerard has said. You have admitted he has, let's say, difficulty in relating his vast knowledge and understanding.

                          I have been unable to understand his natural language.

                          Perhaps you could change your writing style to a form that could enlighten us all on these hard to understand matters. Would that not be a better use of time?

                          "The washer pump motor is nothing special. I have piles of them over here. I am an appliance repair man. I own dozens of them, they are a form of a permanent magnet motor. Gerard is showing each of us a simple way to make an impulse wave by turning a permanent magnet motor backwards."

                          So you have dozens of these nothing special motors. Can you please share with me how turning them backwards creates an impulse wave? What does an impulse wave look like? What can you do with one?

                          Matt Jones has created a much better motor conversion to produce pulses than something out of the junk bin. I know...I built one and still have it. How can I use that to "manifest" electrons and prove Gerard to be right?

                          If these motors are permanent magnet motors with the magnets on the stator casing then I would assume they have brushes and a commutator?
                          In one video, Gerard says you need to spin brushless motors because with brushes you "manufacture" electrons and with brushless systems you "manifest" electrons. So how do these motor you speak of work and "manifest"electrons? Is this a contradiction of Gerard's statement?

                          In his "technologies" there should be a common basis of operation. Can you describe what that looks like?

                          "In the McCulloch the magnet provides free energy. In a standard Genset, there is no extra magnetic energy input that is always being added into the system free of charge."

                          You have, here, made an unsubstantiated claim of free energy. You are saying there is free energy in the McCulloch magnet. You are saying that the magnet in the McCulloch generator is "always adding extra magnetic energy" to the system free of charge. Really? How can you justify saying that with absolutely no proof at all? And if that is true, then why is everyone wasting time and money on pole pigs when they should be trying to figure out how to replicate a "special" ceramic magnet.


                          Taking this use of a magnet further will increase the COP of the machine.


                          What use of a magnet? How is this magnet "used" whereby the magic blue smoke is produced?

                          It is not normal electricity. It is impulse power. Same as what Gerard makes with an off the shelf pump motor.

                          You were speaking (above) of the joule thief discharge. Ok, so there is no common basis of operation. We have magic blue smoke impulses AND magic blue smoke ceramic magnets. Are there magic blue smoke pole pigs too....I'm really confused about all the fuss about pole pigs when all we have to do is spin motors backwards.

                          I think it is pretty well established that magic blue smoke has been "manifested". Turion's system is something I don't doubt. Nor do I doubt that Bedini systems carry something special back into a lead acid battery.

                          What I have a problem with is that Gerard has made claims much greater than the above working systems. The burden of proof is on Gerard and since he has "quit" for lack of interest (money), you seem to have taken his place by echoing his claims. Does this not now place the burden of proof squarely in your lap?

                          Show me something.


                          You're the one making these incredible claims. Don't waste anymore time demeaning others.

                          Show ME something




                          Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
                          @Bob and String....


                          When you find it, bring it back here so we can all see the material specific to Bob's comment. Once you get off in Eric's stuff you need to be ready to study for about 10 years to have it all sink in. Oh you get some good reading that shows us all a new way of equating.

                          At the end of the day, don't forget to run some experiments, collect data.

                          I Like book reading, don't get me wrong, I have read many powerful stories but none of that helped me to connect a resistor or wind a coil.

                          Show us your build, of anything.

                          It takes both. When people make it clear to me that they are all about reading books and articles and have never build a radiant oscillator, I know they are not serious about this work. You see with your mind in more ways than you think.

                          Handicapped people have a better chance of inventing new things because they submerse themselves in the experiment. This is all they can do because they may be some how socially impaired or otherwise, so they do what they can, with what they have. Hands on masters of the experimental approach to discovery.

                          The washer pump motor is nothing special. I have piles of them over here. I am an appliance repair man. I own dozens of them, they are a form of a permanent magnet motor. Gerard is showing each of us a simple way to make an impulse wave by turning a permanent magnet motor backwards.

                          The factory makes a silly little "N" "S" drum magnet by crushing some dust together hydraulically in a press in the presents of a magnetic field for alignment.

                          This means that a magnet passes a coil of some sort (I Like John Bedini's twisted coil) to produce an impulse wave. Can you imagine using a $100 magnets for a 10 Pole? Can you imagine the circumference of that circle where the magnet travels?

                          In the McCulloch the magnet provides free energy. In a standard Genset, there is no extra magnetic energy input that is always being added into the system free of charge.

                          Taking this use of a magnet further will increase the COP of the machine.

                          I can turn my joule thief/ringer on and hold the wires on the output close together to get sparks. These are radiant discharges and look like I am welding the copper together as it melts. The circuit runs a 120volt light bulb.

                          It is not normal electricity. It is impulse power. Same as what Gerard makes with an off the shelf pump motor. These pump motors have been used for 20 years. They are found in top loaders, front loaders, dishwashers, ice-machines, any device that needs water pumped. Humidifiers. They are thrown away by the bushel basket everyday.

                          Swimming pool pumps use these designed.

                          A treadmill motor that is 5 amps @ 90vdc is a good high powered magnet motor. They commonly have a large steel flywheel attached to the pulley.

                          The large Flat washer drive motors can be rewound to do many things, but again we are talking experimental work that book worming can't do.

                          Show me something.

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                          • Someone was asking about where to find the pump online. Here are a couple of quotes with links.

                            Originally posted by Bob Smith View Post
                            Just checked on eBay. I'm assuming that the pump doesn't come with the motor (which we want) unless specified. Can anyone confirm?
                            Here's the eBay link:
                            Electrolux Washer Drain Pump 134051100 137108000 | eBay

                            I'd like to try this out on a small scale first.
                            Bob

                            Originally posted by altrez View Post
                            That is correct it does not come with the Motor. I found one that should work on Amazon:

                            AmpFlow E30-150 Brushed Electric Motor, 12V, 24V, or 36V DC, 5600 RPM: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific

                            Might be a bit over kill but its a good motor.

                            -Altrez

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                            • Originally posted by Bob Smith View Post
                              Someone was asking about where to find the pump online. Here are a couple of quotes with links.
                              Thanks Bob

                              Also everyone should know that every household has one of these pumps and every city has a repairman such as myself with used pumps they will never use.

                              Instead of paying $50-150 just drop by a used shop and pick one up for $5 or 10 dollars. This way people can start experimenting in their apartments without spending any real money.

                              Building a full blooded Monopole could cost good money.

                              The pumps are right there in your town for peanuts.

                              Mikey

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                              • Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
                                Thanks Bob

                                Also everyone should know that every household has one of these pumps and every city has a repairman such as myself with used pumps they will never use.

                                Instead of paying $50-150 just drop by a used shop and pick one up for $5 or 10 dollars. This way people can start experimenting in their apartments without spending any real money.

                                Building a full blooded Monopole could cost good money.

                                The pumps are right there in your town for peanuts.

                                Mikey
                                Thanks for the tip Mike. I do know a local appliance guy. He's sold me stuff before. I'll check with him. Also, any pawn shop I've been in usually has a bin full of old cordless drills with a dead battery they'll let go for 10 bucks, for a small prime mover motor. You can get 'em cheaper of ebay of course.
                                Bob

                                Edit: I guess the pumping mechanism doesn't need to work, as long as the coils in the motor are intact? You guys must throw out lots of those.
                                Last edited by Bob Smith; 03-05-2015, 11:25 PM. Reason: Added question

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