low resistance low inductance no magnetic circuit acceleration under short

[interdesign21]

Hi Chet
Attached a pic drawn based in the fig. 2 from Pat.US55565835

As English is not my mother language, it is a bit difficult to visualize the description of windings.
Would you, please, confirm or mend my interpretation of such windings ?

Your answer will be much appreciated, thanks.
regards
Alvaro

PS. I Apologize as this is off topic. I cannot insert images in private messages.

here is a Patent which has opinions on this in a toroid .
Patent US5565835 - Substantial nullification of external magnetic fields and lorentz forces ... - Google Patents
shared by Verpies here post #159

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respectfully
Chet
ps there will be some very interesting experiments done/shared there shortly.

[RAMSET]

lets start simple please.

Tyson
I apologize for the interruption ,However Cyril Smith [Smudge] is a legend in the OU community
he is running a Very simple experiment with Verpies and itsu here

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it is right up OUR alley .

with all respect

Chet
ps
Alvaro
for simplicity, I would suggest the above first...[that is not a confirmation of your rendering ,I will ask and get back to you ]

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi ramset, no problem, i am reading the thread at OUR, though i am not a member there, so i just observe, thanks for information.

Here is a couple more pics of progress on me setup.
It is modular, so it will allow me to try different things and variations.





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[SkyWatcher]

Multistrand paralleled erfinder idea transformer

Hi folks, i finished building the transformer based on something similar to the principles erfinder has shown and bruce_tpu has also done similar work also that i am aware of.
There is 5 strands of 24 awg. magnet wire in anti-series connection and then all 5 strands of each end are in parallel.
Going to try the flip flop circuit first on the center coil.



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[Zardox]

Working on something similar

I am working on something almost identical. However I didn't have any ferrites so I have mixed up iron powder and glue. I am waiting for it to dry and see what I get.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi zardox, sounds good, thanks for sharing.
Are you using insulated wire, multistrand for your generator coils, like what erfinder was showing?
Look forward to seeing some pics and results, thanks.
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[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, here is a video from TPUBruce showing what may be done with the multistrand ideas.
Take note, he is getting 6 times the wattage with each strand rectified, compared to not rectifying each strand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnsSRW7JqQA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy71bXcoveE

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[Matthew Jones]

I kinda fail to see how its make a difference multiple strands or not.

So far no one has mentioned why shorting a coil accelerates the rotor.

Study RLC resonant circuit. Any given coil can become a RLC resonant circuit simply by shorting it out. The only thing that will inhibit this behavior within the coil is saturation of the core material and frequency of the input. And of course external to the coil any further resistance, inductance, and/or capacitance.

As far saturation goes you can get this effect from 2 turns, but the core material must be permeable enough to switch direction at 2 times the frequency input.

That brings us to frequency, and strength of input. 2 turns is very low resistance so we have to quench that with real high current production, or in other words a large magnetic field and we have to do it extremely fast. I wouldn't know first hand how to calculate it with out a physical object to measure and magnets to accompany. But I am sure it would be in order of several megahertz.

How do I know? Well I have set these coils in resonance with 3 parts (RLC) and got the same behavior out of them. With either a mechanical input or an external power source they behave the same. The rotor will accelerate if mechanical or the tone of the signal input will increase to peak voltage.
But wrap one turn around the coil and pull a load the inductance changes and you loose resonance.

Now that said its still useful. And in mechanical situation it still provides advantage. But to directly input power into the coil (IE an oscillator) the best you can do is calculate the frequency of resonance and get your peak voltage at maximum. This is just good practice and not much more.

So I am kinda curious and especially now you posted those TPU videos how it is any of this is going to apply or what your thought train is?

Matt

[mbrownn]

Hi Matt, I am interested in this multiple strand idea too. Up until now I have been using very big copper conductors to obtain very low resistance in my coils ie flat copper bar like is found in starter motors.

I think there are more ways that one of using a shorted second coil to accelerate a motor. The method I have used causes acceleration by lowering the inductance of the primary just as in a transformer thus more current will flow and a stronger magnetic field is also produced. This second shorted coil also has a magnetic field that if positioned correctly on the right design of armature could also add to the torque. Nothing magical about it, its just an improvement in mechanical power.

Many videos I have seen which claim to be circumventing lenz have actually been doing what I have done and have had no effect on lenz at all. others have been quite different and I would like to investigate that.

[Matthew Jones]

Hi Matt, I am interested in this multiple strand idea too. Up until now I have been using very big copper conductors to obtain very low resistance in my coils ie flat copper bar like is found in starter motors.

I think there are more ways that one of using a shorted second coil to accelerate a motor. The method I have used causes acceleration by lowering the inductance of the primary just as in a transformer thus more current will flow and a stronger magnetic field is also produced. This second shorted coil also has a magnetic field that if positioned correctly on the right design of armature could also add to the torque. Nothing magical about it, its just an improvement in mechanical power.

Many videos I have seen which claim to be circumventing lenz have actually been doing what I have done and have had no effect on lenz at all. others have been quite different and I would like to investigate that.

Thats great Brown, if you get time I would like to see what your talking about. A video or something please. Maybe some drawing or somthing of all this work you do.

I still have the same question though, What is this going to do in a solid state device in which you may or may not intend to pull power from? Its just a question, I just don't understand how this will differ from any other buck boost oscillator.
I know how it advantages you in a motor or generator. Mechanically that is.

Matt