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    Hi folks, this seems valuable to me.
    I will be trying some different things based around the principles.

    low resistance low inductance no magnetic circuit acceleration under short on Vimeo

    Flux Gate Interrupter, BEMF Redirector

    The thread link is not based on his device, he just shared his ideas within that thread.

    peace love light

  • #2
    Originally posted by SkyWatcher View Post
    I will be trying some different things based around the principles.
    Like what?

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    • #3
      @ erfinder

      Great demo.

      Correct me if I am wrong. The low ohmic resistance allows a greater current to flow therefore a greater magnetic effect in the secondary coil which causes acceleration. High voltages are not required.

      The low inductance would normally require a higher frequency.

      The open magnetic circuit is allowing the system to operate at a lower frequency and a closed magnetic circuit would require a higher frequency.

      It is the transformer action between the two coils that is producing the AC in the second coil. The lag in the current between the two coils is what is creating the desired magnetic fields to accelerate the motor.

      I dont know if this is the case in your machine but in mine, the transformer action lowers the inductance in the primary causing more current to flow in the primary coil, this in turn causes a greater magnetic field causing acceleration under load.

      As you know I have been working with a closed magnetic circuit ie a modified motor, but have been able to produce a similar effect. We discussed this a few years ago.

      I have suspected that the air gaps in my motor may be important in timing the current flow in the secondary, would you agree?

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      • #4
        Hi folks, Hi erfinder, probably something similar to what mattwatt did, though i have two 4-1/2" long ferrite sleeves i can use to try something.

        I also have a large 6 multistrand coil wound with i think 24awg. from an SG i built awhile back, will use that wire for this.

        Want something that can put out real juice to power/charge an electric bicycle/velomobile at least.

        Will use a spacer to separate the 2 ferrite sleeves which are parallel to one another.

        Then wind an oscillator coil in the middle, bridging the air gap between the two, like mattwatt did.

        Then i can wind multifilar coils at each end of the sleeves.

        peace love light

        Edit: oh ya, forgot to mention, i remember bruce_tpu was doing something similar to this with the multifilar coils and saying something similar to what erfinder is saying, maybe erfinder sent him some tips back then.
        Last edited by SkyWatcher; 01-29-2015, 01:24 AM.

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        • #5
          Hi folks, I changed it to inline design.
          The center coil is wound on a plastic former so the separate 4-1/2" long ferrite sleeves can be pulled in and out to separate the two cores at whatever distance is needed and the center coil will still bridge the two cores.

          Center coil is bifilar 24awg. 8 layers.
          Will use flip flop circuit on center coil.
          Will wind a multistrand coil at each end and wire it as erfinder has in his video.



          peace love light

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          • #6
            Originally posted by SkyWatcher View Post
            Hi folks, this seems valuable to me.
            I will be trying some different things based around the principles.

            low resistance low inductance no magnetic circuit acceleration under short on Vimeo

            Flux Gate Interrupter, BEMF Redirector

            The thread link is not based on his device, he just shared his ideas within that thread.

            peace love light
            Great topic Tyson

            Looking forward to your test results.

            All the best and thanks for sharing

            Luc

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            • #7
              The Delayed Lenz Effect exploration and tests

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              • #8
                link issue?

                Hi erfinder, happy to see you here

                Al
                Last edited by alman; 01-30-2015, 09:04 PM. Reason: delete distractions

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by alman View Post
                  Hi erfinder, happy to see you here
                  I tried to view your link and was not able, Maybe it is the computer I am on, but I was not able to find the jlnlab site at all. some of the videos are still on youtube though. Is this what you are referring to? https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...yer_detailpage
                  or this https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...yt-cl=85114404
                  Al
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...oyuiQTrRA#t=17

                  I do not support the idea of "delayed Lenz". Call it what you want, I don't care. I am only interested in the effect. I don't post this to discuss the topic of delayed Lenz. I post it because it is a demonstration of what geometry needs to look like to get what we want with coils of any value operating at low frequency.

                  Regards
                  Last edited by erfinder; 01-30-2015, 06:11 PM.

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                  • #10
                    It works for me now, I'll delete my distractions. The geometry of that set up seems to be showing that there is an optimum distance the coil (apart from the core) should be from the magnet to not interfere (cause drag) to the prime mover. A dragless generator coil. Actually better as speed is increased and draw is decreased(depending on the prime mover). Al
                    Last edited by alman; 01-30-2015, 09:06 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Delay, diminish, nullify ,utylise , etc etc....

                      here is a Patent which has opinions on this in a toroid .
                      Patent US5565835 - Substantial nullification of external magnetic fields and lorentz forces ... - Google Patents
                      shared by Verpies here post #159

                      Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

                      respectfully
                      Chet
                      ps there will be some very interesting experiments done/shared there shortly.
                      If you want to Change the world
                      BE that change !!

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                      • #12
                        Hi folks, nice replies, valuable stuff.
                        Also forgot to mention, each coil at ends will have a plastic former as well, so each coil will be adjustable and slide back and forth on ferrite sleeves.
                        Working on plastic formers now.
                        peace love light

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SkyWatcher View Post
                          Hi folks, this seems valuable to me.
                          low resistance
                          peace love light




                          ALL resistance = (X level of) magnetic permeability


                          its that simple.


                          A "superconductor" (BS notion) is just HIGH ORDER Low-magnetic permeability.



                          keeping it simple

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TheoriaApophasis View Post

                            A "superconductor" (BS notion) is just HIGH ORDER Low-magnetic permeability.
                            low permeability, high reflectivity

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by alman View Post
                              low permeability, high reflectivity


                              superconductor (so-called BS term) is just meant (very very high) diamagnetic


                              ie low magnetic permeability


                              i guess if you wanted to call Bismuth a "magnetism reflector" that works too.


                              (since its the most diamagnetic element)


                              ive melted a LOT of it, which is ALSO why it shrinks a LOT when molten (its neat actually).


                              all space is syn. with magnetism , in a molten state, high diamagnetic (=high dielectric) is (kinda, LOL) like an elemental 'black hole", it shrinks into counterspace.

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