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Originally posted by Joit View Post@ android3000
All. cant you all make some contructive comments instead just pointing out its nothing new for now ?
People that believe there is nothing new are displaying a lack of imagination. We all know ways of coaxing a little energy out of a coil and there are many ways to do it. What isnt discussed here are ways of combining them together, With the exception of Turions thread. I have tried coaxing people to look at other alternatives but had little interest.
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Originally posted by android3000 View Post
The picture above show the relation between energy with charge and voltage, the value itself not important, the relation is important.
1. Energy is the product of capacitance and voltage
2. Energy also the ratio of charge to capacitance
3. Capacitance is space thus energy comes from space.
This shows that high voltage doesn’t mean that it has high energy if the capacitance is low.
Picture above show what happen when energy in a capacitor is used to power a load. Everything becomes zero. Voltage, energy and charge are gone.
This second picture show difference configuration, instead of directly power a load. The load is power in series with initially discharge capacitor. As you can see, the amount of charge doesn’t change even if energy is used. Only the capacitance change, this proof that power can be produce from change in capacitance or change in space.
This is the basis for free energy device like the tesla switch or the 3 battery system because this device relies on powering a load while charging capacitor or battery. Since the charge does not get destroy, the battery will maintain it charge.
There are two way to produce free energy from this principle..
1 . involve an electric motor or dc motor, rather difficult because it require mechanical work.
2. Combine this principle with new faraday law of induction that i modify to explain the creation of free energy.
About faraday law of induction
Since tesla have proof that electricity can travel trough space because space is just capacitance or really low capacitance(space has high impedance), that mean if the electrical signal voltage and frequency is high enough than electricity can travel trough space with zero loss. Combination of this knowledge and faraday law will change how we understand process of induction.
All 100 Joules of energy in C1 is transferred to resistor R1.
But in your 2nd circuit:
ONLY 50 Joules of energy is transferred to resistor R1
25 Joules of energy is transferred to C2
25 Joules of energy stayed in C1.
50J (in R1) + 25J (in C1) + 25J (in C2) = 100 Joules.
All 100 Joules of energy is accounted for.
You 2nd circuit proves: FREE ENERGY is a MYTH.
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Nice riddle
Tesla loved high voltages and frequencies and witness the unusual properties
of electricity obtained at those levels.
You are suggesting that at certain levels of excitement electicity will travel from one component to another wirelessly.I have no problem with that.
Now what kind of arrangement would do that, maybe a wireless transmitter of some kind,question is will it give you more energy than it consumes.
Give us some hints...
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Inductive load
I want to post this yesterday by something wrong with this forum, i cant post anything.. (hack by nsa or nsa backdoor program overload my computer)
This is a linear regulator circuit. The series resistor R1 and R2 will sense the voltage change in the capacitor and feed it to the op amp then control the amount of current flow by controlling the resistance on the transistor.
I am not going to discuss the detail operation of this device because you can read all about it on wiki here. What I want to show here is the loss in the circuit.
If the regulation current = 1 amp then power loss equal (24 – 9.3) x 1 = 14.7 watt
Power output = 9.3 x 1 = 9.3 watt.
As you can see, when you charge a capacitor directly then the difference in voltage of charging source and capacitor or battery being charge contribute directly to power loss in the circuit.
A simplified switching regulator, instead of directly charging a capacitor the power source charge capacitor in series with inductor(inductive element), this eliminate the loss cause by voltage drop between charging source and charging component. The power now store in the inductor and transfer into capacitor.
In this system the power loss depend on resistance of the inductor.
if you remember the original 3 battery system or tesla switch the load always inductive, it either motor or transformer.
the calculation i show before not to prove free energy but to show that energy will change if there are change in capacitance or space. this will allow power synthesis.
you need to combine this knowledge with other that i going to post here than you understand how it can be done. If it is that easy (couple of picture with simple calculation) you have figure it out by now.
there few topic need to be discuss:
1 - linear motion
2 - rotational motion
3 - magnetic attraction
4 - modification of faraday induction formula (if i generous enough to spill all the beans)
I have actually done that with batteries and small bulbs, charging one battery while discharging another battery through a bulb in series between the batteries. Batt 1 lights the bulb and charges Batt 2 then you swap them and do it over and over. What that simple experiment shows is very similar to the 3 bgs, the load can be run much longer in that configuration than just simply running the bulb from the 2 batteries directly.
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android3000
When you could not reply to the thread then its bad.
When its only about to post pictures, you better store them at a service like imageshack.us or gmail, if you have an account or link it to any other source.
Pictures have a certain format here, that you can upload them, also you only have limited space for that to do it.Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.
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already solve this with the first equation i showed. when you power load with series capacitor, only half the energy is use by load, another half goes into capacitor or battery, that why the load run much longer.
If yes... I currently have to disagree with your statement. I have figured out a way to test the theory behind this schematic and performed the testing. It has shown that there is no conservation of energy going into the series cap, in the end all the energy equals what you first had initially. I tested this concept with manual switches and a 470ohm load and a stop watch. I was surprised at the end result, but I had to know for myself as others told me the same thing that there was no conservation of energy.
Now if one uses a switching inductor that may make a difference, however my testing has not gotten that far yet.
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You know how to build one?
Hey, I'm willing to admit I was hard on you, Android. After all, you did ask what we think. But, you said you know how to build a free energy device. You then gave a bunch of flimsy excuses, but you did say you know how to build a free energy device. I am glad you are starting to show what you are talking about. You show the capacitance and energy formula and some diagrams. You talk about how you think it works. By the way, you don't seem to understand standard capacitor theory or physics. Still, you MAY have an actual device that shows some unusual results. I say MAY have a device because you have not made the claim that you ACTUALLY BUILT the device you say you know how to build.
So, here is my challenge.
Tell us whether you have ACTUALLY BUILT the device you say you know how to build. At this point I think you have a THEORY that is unproven and you think maybe someone here on this forum will try to build something because you SAY you know how it all works. After all, as the saying goes, actions speak louder than words.
There is a reason why science has been successful and technology is widespread. Don't be afraid to do the math and apply the laws of physics.
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Originally posted by android3000 View PostIn this system the power loss depend on resistance of the inductor.
I would not always try to place it in a capacitor as capacitive losses are great too. Often it is possible to feed the stored energy in an inductor into another part of the circuit. Recycling, for want of a better term.
Originally posted by android3000 View Postif you remember the original 3 battery system or tesla switch the load always inductive, it either motor or transformer.
Originally posted by android3000 View Postmodification of faraday induction formula (if i generous enough to spill all the beans)
Go ahead, ill try to follow what you are saying
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This is free energy actually, you just have to extract important information from the noise aroundhttps://www.google.pl/url?sa=i&rct=j...24292365237566
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wtf
I would not always try to place it in a capacitor as capacitive losses are great too
It can be done with any low resistance component, but inductors have properties that can be exploited so it makes sense to use them provided their ohmic resistance is low enough.
This is free energy actually, you just have to extract important information from the noise around
they have the same basic principle.
unfortunate that these people don't share detail theory but just show a working device that almost anyone can't understand how the device operate or they understand but keep it to them self like what i about to do cause i start to think this whole thing such a waste of time.
people here don't even bother to do some research or Google because keep refuting me even on something that every engineer should now
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